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bstrick
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Making Paper Tapered Cartridges
      #332272 - 12/09/19 10:26 PM

I wrote this several years ago with the help of Daryl.

Just thought it was time to share again.

Great way to use up hard scrap lead.

SUPER FAST RELOADS!

at:

http://rjrenner.blogspot.com/p/tapered-paper-cartridges.html

Enjoy.


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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: bstrick]
      #332274 - 12/09/19 11:11 PM

Great article

Thanks for posting this


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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: tinker]
      #332284 - 13/09/19 02:30 AM

Good article, Bruce. Well done.

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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: DarylS]
      #332290 - 13/09/19 04:08 AM

Quote:

Good article, Bruce. Well done.




And,

Daryl, many Thanks to You!


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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: bstrick]
      #332295 - 13/09/19 05:26 AM

You are MOST welcome, Bruce.
Have you posted this link/article on ARL?
You and I were instrumental in Dan and Bob (& others) trying paper ctgs. in their large bores.

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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: DarylS]
      #333716 - 22/10/19 08:11 AM

Great article, reckon I will give them a go. Cannot see why this would not work in my Hollis.

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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: Heelerau]
      #333744 - 23/10/19 02:52 AM

It works very well indeed, in my .14 bore rifle, Gordon. Bruce carried this further, in experimentation with small bores, with success, down to .54, I think.
Bob uses them in his 10 bore, while Dan uses them in his 16 bore rifle.
We all found the same thing, identical accuracy to patched balls & multiple shots before needing to wipe the bore.

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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: DarylS]
      #333753 - 23/10/19 07:11 AM

Great article gents!
Very interesting!


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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: 93x64mm]
      #333759 - 23/10/19 08:54 AM

I make paper cartridges for a Bess and a Potzdam, the paper acts as a sabot and the accuracy is quite surprising. I also make the Pat 1858 enfield paper cartridge which I use a 530 grain pritchett bullet, these you can shoot all day and not have your rifle foul.
I am not surprised that this tapered cartridge works in a rifle, of larger bore as I guess by the looks the paper acts once again as a sabot. Save mucking about with flask and loose ball etc. Will post my results in due course.
Great article Bruce, well executed. Thanks.

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Edited by Heelerau (23/10/19 08:56 AM)


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Re: Making Paper Tapered Cartridges [Re: Heelerau]
      #333761 - 23/10/19 09:44 AM

I found these paper ctgs. solved a very real problem with the special weapon's moose hunt here in B.C. some years back.
Oft times, the temperature would be -30 to -45 - most patch lubes are stiff/hard in those temperatures, so finding one that would work,
was difficult.
The paper ctgs. solved that problem and I found I could shoot up to 10 without accuracy falling off nor loading getting difficult.
I found the size needed, is a snug fit in the rifling, requiring a choked up rod to get them started. After that, down they went, quite easily.
I used no lube on them, but others have.


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