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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: TH44]
      #330395 - 22/07/19 01:27 PM

Double hammers and nipples on one barrel - definitely weird when not superposed loads ie:one in front of the other

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: TH44]
      #330397 - 22/07/19 03:41 PM

I believe this is a modern replica, wallhanger only!

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: fuhrmann]
      #331862 - 04/09/19 04:48 AM

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #332617 - 23/09/19 12:35 AM

nice german made full stock hunting rifle
https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/tysk-perkussions-karabin-omkring-1840/i5439903/#



























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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #332625 - 23/09/19 03:17 AM

Yes it is, nice indeed.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: DarylS]
      #334532 - 18/11/19 02:16 AM

Novotny in Wien, allways nice, 14 ga double gun
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7690391












H. Kneipp in Wiesbaden, 15 mm double rifle
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7710365





























10 mm single shot gun, https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7710390

































perkussion primed breech loading pistol, 5,5 mm caliber smooth bore "Hermann Brevete"
https://egun.de/market/item.php?id=7685030













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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: DarylS]
      #336398 - 10/01/20 05:19 AM

auction endet but beautyful revolving rifle made by peterlongo in innsbruck
https://www.icollector.com/Rare-Engraved...Rifle_i18633281





Johann Peterlongo start making colt revolver under licence for the austrian navy in 1849
https://www.icollector.com/Rare-Engraved...olver_i18633321






it seems such rifles were a speciality of peterlongo, another pinfire rifle







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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #336410 - 10/01/20 02:24 PM

Now THAT is an ornately engraved cylinder and action.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #337040 - 25/01/20 11:47 PM

maybe the most unusual 19 century sporting gun I have ever seen

google translator "SELL RARITY COLLECTOR CARABINER - Serial Number 35. Smooth brown barrel, in the area of the chamber okragonal, then cylindrical, caliber 10.5 mm. Lower part of the barrel with a test mark (St.Etienne). Smooth percussion lock with flap lock, opening lever on the right side of the frame. Removable shoulder rest and grip grips made of walnut wood. France 1856-1869, length with shoulder rest 82 cm. Probably EXPERIMENTAL MODEL"

https://aukro.cz/karabina-perkusni-zadovka-s-odnimatelnou-ramenni-operkou-rarita-6949503778

















looks like a submachine gun



think such shooting walking sticks are forbiddenin many countrys but here is it













https://aukro.cz/unikat-skryta-pistole-v-holi-6960908924

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: DarylS]
      #338835 - 09/03/20 02:21 AM

https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...;currentpos=248

Percussion O/U combination gun Wender, H. Roesig in Bruck, calibre 14,5mm 68 cm octagonal barrels, rifle barrel with adjustable sights and 6 riflings, shotgun barrel of wild twist Damascus, bead missing, push-rod in front of the trigger guard blocks the rotary plate of the Wender, action and raised lockplate engraved with scroll and palm leaf, inscribed "H. Roesig in Bruck", dolphin-shaped hammer, back-action lock, trigger guard with finger rest, single set trigger, walnut full-stock carved with red deer, 32,5cm, sloping cheekpiece, sliding patchbox cover carved with scallop and chequering, original ramrod with brass tip, sling swivel eyes, year of manufacture about 1840, condition III.






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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #338843 - 09/03/20 03:36 AM

This last gun is a swivel breech gun, not a true O/U & it's a beauty. The trigger guard is the locking lever. Pull back on the front of the guard to unlatch, then turn the barrels so the "lower" barrel's nipple comes under the hammer.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: DarylS]
      #340235 - 18/04/20 10:13 PM

That is a mighty handsome piece and it would still make meat by the look of the bore !

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: Heelerau]
      #340248 - 19/04/20 03:16 AM

14.5mm - .57 cal. interesting. It would shoot a 27 or 26 bore ball, weighing 259gr. to 269gr.
In my post above, I should have noted, first to pull the hammer back to 1/2 bent, then pull on the front of the T-guard to unlock the barrels.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: DarylS]
      #343395 - 20/07/20 01:28 AM

first husqvarna muzzle loader sporting rifle I see
https://www.lauritz.com/da/auktion/forladerriffel-husqvarna-i-kal-16-mm-ca/i5717408/
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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #343396 - 20/07/20 01:52 AM

Nice, but very plain and quite utilitarian. Except for the rear tang sight, very militaristic.
With that aperture sight being mounted in the wood and not attached to a longer tang, tells me the gun was given that sight by a sportsman after it was made.
Calibre roughly .63".
Quite likely, it has a Tige or Delvinge-type chamber.
Tige is a flat topped spike running up the centre of the bore mounted in the middle of the breech-plug, the length determined by the amount of powder used in the issue paper ctg. Likely a bullet & solid at this date.
Delvinge chamber has a powder recess in a smaller "than the bore" breech. This powder chamber accepts the powder charge. Slamming (throwing)the loading rod 3 times on the undersize bullet upsets the bullet into the rifling, in both designs
rather than having the progressive depth rifling and use of a hollow based slug, like other Euro and American countries used.
Austrian military guns used these two interesting "principals".
This use of these two systems is possible, but not positive. The gun may have been designed for hollow based "Minie-type" "balls" as well.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: DarylS]
      #347280 - 29/11/20 06:03 AM

a german stalking rifle G.F. Stender Hofbüchenmacher in Aachen,
https://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/slaglaasgevaer/i5856031/















Küll stalking rifle made for Baron Gregers Christian Raben (1838-1875)
https://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/perkussionsbuechse-von-aalholm/i5854613/























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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #347301 - 29/11/20 06:36 PM



What a handy walking stick. Especially if the pistol could taka modern cartridge. .45 Colt or something.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: NitroX]
      #347313 - 29/11/20 09:28 PM

easy to build if legal

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #347329 - 30/11/20 04:29 AM

Very nice stalking rifle. The second one is really weird, being contained and leather washer-ed, by the looks of it.

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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #348551 - 28/12/20 04:50 PM

french made double gun with a bayonet
https://www.naturabuy.fr/Fusil-juxtapose-avec-baionnette-item-7250523.html















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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #350797 - 24/02/21 04:07 PM

french Canardiere with a 135 cm long barrel, 1,76 total
69 caliber maybe a 14 gauge https://www.naturabuy.fr/Canardiere-epoq...em-6720008.html
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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #353771 - 27/05/21 04:31 AM

* C.G. BALES, DURBAN, SOUTH AFRICA

A RARE 4-BORE PERCUSSION RIFLED SHOT & BALL GUN FOR DANGEROUS GAME, serial no. P3036,
circa 1870, with round 32 3/4in. barrel signed 'C.G. BALES D'URBAN', applied fore-sight, standing notch rear-sight with two additional folding leaves, South African registration number stamped at breech, plain colour hardened double screwed top-tang, plain colour hardened bar-action lock stamped 'C.G. BALES D'URBAN', chequered walnut full-stock, iron furniture, twin barrel keys and provision for ramrod (absent along with front stirrup swivel), much finish remaining beneath an old applied lacquer, overall length 49 1/2in., weight approximately 12 1/2lbs.

Other Notes: The Port of Natal was renamed D'urban in 1835 in honour of Lt. Gen. Benjamin D'urban who was a favoured Governor of the settlers in the region. The spelling with the apostrophe continued in use until the Boer Wars, upon which it was dropped and the more recognisable 'Durban' spelling adopted.

C.G. Bales is a seldom encountered gun maker and retailer who first appeared at 26 Field Street, D'urban in 1869. By 1874 he had a store at Pietermaritzburg as well, but all advertisements for him cease by 1879. He is last mentioned in 1884 as a 'Gentleman residing in Berea'; an upmarket exclusive area of Durban. This type of percussion rifle was the favoured tool of rhinoceros hunters of the time; short and light enough to be carried distances on horse-back but packing a powerful punch, and through convenience persisted well into the cartridge era.
https://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/as...042&image=9



















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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #355022 - 09/07/21 03:16 AM

danish model 1807 Jaegerrifle, notice the lock
https://de.bisgaardnielsen.dk/shop/460-rifler-og-gevaerer/10752-danemark-jagerbuchse-modell-1807/



















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      #356053 - 14/08/21 05:37 PM

lots of big bore cape guns
https://www.gunstar.co.uk/robert-hughes-.../rifles/1281255
Robert Hughes Universal Firearms Works Birmingham Side By Side Double Damascus Barrelled Muzzle Loading Percussion Rifle/ Shotgun Combination Big Game Gun (14 Smooth Bore/ .577 Calibre Rifled Bore), Irish Reg Mark ‘F173U’ (Fermanagh). - 17674
Robert Hughes was a gun and pistol maker at 22 Moland Street, Birmingham until 1872 and at 100 Moland Street from 1873. He adopted the style 'Universal Firearms Works' in 1868. His guns were well known and he was favoured in the London gun market, known for his high quality Sporting Rifles, typically sold to men traveling to Asia or Africa for big game hunting. This attractive C1870 double hammer percussion Rifle and Shotgun combination gun is the type used for hunting large game. It has 30 ½” round Damascus steel barrels and is 46 ½” overall. The rifled barrel is .577 Calibre and has a good clean bore with sharp rifling. The shotgun barrel is smooth 14 Bore which is also clean. The barrel is faintly signed ‘Robert Hughes Universal Firearms Works Birmingham. One barrel is stamped with Irish registration mark ‘F173U’ indicating that this gun was in Ireland at some point of its Victorian life (the Registration of Firearms (Ireland) Act of 22nd August 1843, provided for the granting of licences to the owners of firearms and required the arms to be marked by the Superintendent of the County Inspector of the Constabulary Force. F U mark was the designation for Fermanagh Ulster). The barrel rib is mounted with a fixed ‘v’ notch plate rear sight graduated to 100 yards and 3 leaf sights with silver aiming lines graduated, 200, 300 & 400 yards. The post from the foresight plate is absent. The action, Dolphin hammers, action tang, trigger guard with extended tang and stock mounts have quality tooled foliate decoration. The gun has double triggers. The cocking and firing actions are strong. The Walnut stock with chequered fore stock panels and steel butt plate is undamaged with just light bumps and bruises to be expected. The underside of the stock has a void inlaid silver disc and it has sling swivel lugs. The weapon has its original wood ram rod with polished horn end cap and brass tip with steel worm. The price includes UK delivery. NB As an antique muzzle loading percussion weapon no licence is required to own this item in the UK. Sn 17674
£995.00




https://www.gunstar.co.uk/thomas-conway-manchester-double-rifle-rifles/rifles/989373

English Thomas Conway, Manchester Double Barrel Side By Side Muzzle Loading Percussion Combination Cape Rifle (.600 Calibre Rifled Barrel & 12 Bore Smoothbore Shotgun Barrel) With Walnut Stock & Ramrod. Sn 14949 - 14949
This is an excellent Double barrel percussion Cape rifle made C 1850. It has 30" browned steel barrels and measures 47 " overall. The barrels, set side by side have a central flat top barrel rib. The rifle barrel is .600 calibre and the bore is clean with well defined rifling. The shotgun barrel is smooth 12 bore. The bore is clean. It has its original walnut stock with chequered panels at the fore stock and wrist. It has a steel butt plate with extended tang and trigger guard with extended tang. The metal work has nice foliage engraving to the action plates, breach tang, Dolphin hammers, trigger guard and butt plate. The action plates are both signed by the manufacturer 'Conway' (most likely Thomas Conway an English Gunsmith with premises in Manchester at 179 Chapel Street, 3 Market Street & 43 Blackfriars Street, Deansgate between 1803-1852) . Both barrels have silver roundel inserts at the breech. It has double triggers and the weapon cocks & dry fires perfectly as it should. The shotgun is fitted with blade foresight & 3 leaf flip up rear sights each with silver sighting lines. The stock has 2 sling swivel lugs and it has its original brass tipped and capped wood ramrod. The price includes UK delivery. NB As an antique percussion muzzle loading Cape rifle no licence is required to own this item in the UK if retained as part of a collection or display. Sn 14949
£1,195.00





https://www.gunstar.co.uk/-quality-c1850.../rifles/1348733

English Form J.S.F Botha Cape Town South Africa Retailed Double Damascus Barrelled Side By Side Muzzle Loading Percussion Combination Cape Hunting Rifle (.550 Calibre Rifled Barrel & 15 Bore Smoothbore Shotgun Barrel). Sn 18524:19 18524:19
This is a quality Double barrel percussion Cape rifle made C 1850. It has 31" Damascus steel barrels and measures 48 ½” overall. The barrels, set side by side have a central flat top barrel rib which has graduated markings, fixed open fore sight and graduated 6 leaf rear sights. There is also a panel signed J.S.F Botha Cape Town 1082 most likely a South African retailer. The rifle barrel is .550 calibre and the bore is clean with well defined rifling. The shotgun barrel is smooth 15 bore. The bore is clean. It has its original walnut stock with chequered panels at the fore stock and wrist. It has a steel butt plate with extended tang and trigger guard with extended tang. The metal work has nice tooled foliate decoration to the action plates, breach tang, Dolphin hammers, trigger guard and butt plate tang. It has double triggers and the weapon cocks & dry fires crisply. The stock is holed for sling swivels & has its brass tipped and capped wood ramrod. The price for this quality double combination Cape rifle includes UK delivery. NB As an antique percussion muzzle loading Cape rifle no licence is required to own this item in the UK if retained as part of a collection or display. Sn 18524:19 (A Victorian .550 calibre bullet mould which would make a great accompaniment to this item is available separately our reference Sn 18567)
£2800





https://www.gunstar.co.uk/-quality-engli.../rifles/1348720

**QUALITY**English Victorian William Powell (Birmingham) Double Barrelled Muzzle Loading .500 Calibre Percussion Sporting Rifle With Patch Box & Ram Rod. Sn 18524:18 - 18524:18
Since 1802 William Powell have made exclusive handmade shotguns which are prized the world over. Their present shop in Birmingham City Centre has three departments selling guns and hunting accessories. In 1860 Powell began working from 13 Carrs Lane and became a destination for sporting enthusiasts for the next 148 years. This is a fine double barrelled Sporting rifle by the quality English arms manufacturer William Powell of Birmingham. It has a lovely Walnut stock with chequered panel wrist which has an inlaid silver escutcheon engraved with indistinct stylised monogram. Its 27 ½” steel barrel’s bores are near mint clean and bright with crisp rifling. The rifle measures 44 ¼” overall. Both action plates are signed ‘William Powell’. The rifle has original ebonised wood ram rod with brass end caps, sling swivel lugs, brass post fore sight and fixed rear sight with 2 flip up graduated leaf plate sights. It has a steel butt plate with extended tang, trigger guard with extended tang, tooled foliate decoration to the action which has double silver bands and hinged patch box to the shoulder stock. It has double triggers and heavy Dolphin hammers. The weapon cocks & dry fires crisply. The price for this quality Victorian double rifle by a famous English manufacturer includes UK delivery. NB As an antique percussion weapon no licence is required to own this item in the UK if retained as part of a collection or display. Sn 18524:18
£2,400.00



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Re: muzzle loader at auction [Re: lancaster]
      #356067 - 14/08/21 08:10 PM

Versatile form of firearm for man having or carrying one gun when hunting.

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