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Bramble
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9.3x62 Takedown Update 19.01
      #93394 - 04/01/08 12:27 PM

This is very much work in progress, but I had a few moments to take some pictures and wondered if you might like them. She is a 1916 Kornbush&Co. GEW 98.
She was sitting unloved in the corner of a local gunshop, having been turned sometime I would think in the 70's into a 7.62 target rifle.

I wanted a takedown as I like traveling without a long case. So she seemed a good project gun.
Eventually she will wear the Rigby apature sight copy that I got from Rusty.

Hope you like her.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93408 - 04/01/08 01:41 PM

Well,I certainly like her. That will be a nice
travelling rifle when it's all done. I am almost
at the same point with my takedown project in
.404J but you are a bit further along. How are
you going to latch the barrel assembly and receiver
together?

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93413 - 04/01/08 01:51 PM

Bramble,

Very nice.

What material are you going to use for the forend tip? Ebony?

I always salute those with the skill to build their rifles themselves. Beats buying the most expensive rifle in the world because you built it yourself!

Do keep the pictures coming as you complete what promises to be another masterpiece.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #93416 - 04/01/08 02:07 PM



Very nice indeed.

It looks very much like my Manton 404 Take Down.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #93418 - 04/01/08 02:10 PM

I am not plannig to use a forend tip, you can just see in the last photo a faint curved pencil line that indicates the shape of the forend.

I plan to make a sliding dovetail latch with ball and spring detents. I will post it seperatly when I make it.

Thanks all for the encouraging comments.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93435 - 04/01/08 05:57 PM

I love it.

Will the barrel thread be grooved or an uninterrupted thread?

(PS What is the correct terms?)

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: NitroX]
      #93439 - 04/01/08 06:42 PM

love it,well done.well doing maybe..

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: gryphon]
      #93480 - 05/01/08 04:57 AM

The threads really wouldn't have to be interupted if the rifle was kept without non-quick detach scope or kept iht irons. The interupted threads do make for a slick barrel'd action, though. Unlock, twist, remove or replace and lock. Cool! - not diffuclty to do, either.
: Nice piece of wood too, English or French? A friend had some English without any red tones, just like French walnut.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: DarylS]
      #93483 - 05/01/08 06:01 AM

damn mark

that looks real good, gotta love those takedowns, i know i do.

good job so far.

peter

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: peter]
      #93506 - 05/01/08 02:10 PM

Had a bit of spare time today, so the mateing faces have been done and the forend hanger is on.




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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93517 - 05/01/08 03:25 PM

That is a very nice piece of work, keep posting as I have been thinking about building one and you just kicked started me. I am really interested in how you will lock the two pieces together. I have an action sitting in the safe that has been begging to be turned into a 35 Whelen.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93523 - 05/01/08 04:15 PM

Bramble,

With or without a forend tip, she looks equally beautiful. I know what you mean. Keira Knightley looks beautiful with her clothes on. Without them she is no less lovely!

That is a very nice rifle and the new pictures just show us that something spectacular is coming shortly.

Thanks for sharing the pics here and good hunting!

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #93535 - 05/01/08 05:36 PM

Are you planning any other chamberings for it? Or will she remain a one caliber rifle? How about a custom case?

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: tkv000]
      #93549 - 06/01/08 12:55 AM

I like it too! Great caliber. Keep the photos rolling.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: CptCurl]
      #93590 - 06/01/08 09:01 AM

Hey Mehulkamdar

If you can get me a night with Keira, you can have the rifle !

Here are a couple of pictures of the fixed part of the catch in the rough just off the mill.

I wasent planing other chamberings as it would be a bitch to get another set of mateing faces to match.....but now you mention it I have a 8mm barrel, reamer, and enough nice wood for a forend...hummmm.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93645 - 06/01/08 06:32 PM

Bramble,

One thing for certain,you don't shy away from major projects. It really looks great and is going to be one fine rifle when you're done. You are quite a craftsman.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: dale]
      #93778 - 07/01/08 09:43 PM

Beautiful! Do you make a living doing this or is it a private hobby?

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #93806 - 08/01/08 05:47 AM

Well to say that I make a living at it at the moment would be a gross exageration. However in view of the many projects that I have done the police were kind enough to grant me a RFD as a manufacturer a few weeks ago so I can now take on work for other people. My living currently is from my small building services and engineering company.

Some photographe of the ball and spring detent forend /barrel latch. It has not yet been cut to length. The pin protruding from the square end engages in the forend/barrel plate to lock latch, barrel and woodwork together. The barrel and latch are full length bedded into the woodwork to make it all a rigid unit and hopefully give repeatability of return to zero. The latch and its carrier are case hardened and stoned in to give zero (or as close to it a practicable side shake.





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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93824 - 08/01/08 09:25 AM

Bramble,
You obviosly know how to get the best from your workshop machinery!
Not forgetting all the hand work required for a job like this, plus all the initial design etc!
Very neat work!
Looking forward to seeing the rest of the work as it all comes together.
Great choice of cartridge too!

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: 4seventy]
      #93894 - 09/01/08 09:50 AM

Well got the latch finished and installed tonight. Open and closed photos from several angles for those interested.

Thank you to all the responders for their encouragment.







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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93897 - 09/01/08 10:31 AM

Nice job. I can see the pride & commitment in the work you have put in. Nice caliber too!

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Nakihunter]
      #93900 - 09/01/08 12:20 PM

Thank you for your kind comment.

Regards

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #93976 - 10/01/08 11:05 AM

That's going to be a great looking rifle and already looks like it wants to go hunting.

I like the way you're going about fabricating the latch. The 9.3x62 is my favorite cartridge and I hope it rewards your hard work with a great shooting rifle.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Rick_R]
      #94002 - 10/01/08 08:10 PM

shit mark

that actually looks pretty good , i didn't know you had it in you

looking forward to next time im in london, will plan it so we can have a few beers and talk guns

best regards

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #94181 - 13/01/08 09:43 PM

Flippin hell Soutie, where do you get all the time to do this? Now I know why you did not come over in Deceember. You will have to make a plan to bring her to Africa, I would love to shoot her, a real beauty.

You are a talanted craftsman. When you get here I have a lot of questions to ask you, anyway to much for the forum or on email.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: SAHUNT]
      #94206 - 14/01/08 09:25 AM

nice work, I have never seen quite that configuration before. Did you invent it or is it a copy of some design.

What model of Harrison lathe do you have? I am rebuilding the carriage on my L-6 right now.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: buckbrush]
      #94207 - 14/01/08 09:45 AM

Well you know how it is Jaco. Crueley neglect the family, cheat my customers, starve the dogs, loads of spare time

Buckbrush.

It is a L5 with the old change wheels rather than a gearbox for threadcutting.

The catch design is my own one. The threads were lapped in and the mating faces blacked down. She tighten up to within .050 smooth as silk by hand and then you just slap the forend with your hand and slide the catch home. What is not visible is the work hidden by the forend that makes the plate and the catch integral with the barrel rather than supported by the forend wood. A girl has to have some secrets after all

The major parts had their final carding tonight and are oiled up.
I must get a better camara.





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9.3x62 Take downUpdate 19.01 [Re: Bramble]
      #94679 - 19/01/08 10:33 AM

Well my Grandmother said that you should never do anything by halves. However to the best of my knowledge she never built a takedown.
So...the front end finished. For those that hate the rearsight, so do I. The only job that I put out, was to cut the dovetail in the cocking peice, and only because I dident have the correct carbide cutter for the case hardening. Guess what, yes, they let me down and I am on a plane in 12 days to visit Jaco (SA Hunt) for a weeks hunting. The only option was to fit this sight with a low temp solder and live with it until I get back. Because of this I have just cold blued the barrel and will re-polish and rust blue when I gat back. I am most un amused as I wanted to take Rusty Marlins lovley Rigby copy apature hunting. Ah well...next time.




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Re: 9.3x62 Take downUpdate 19.01 [Re: Bramble]
      #94689 - 19/01/08 12:06 PM

You already know I just love it!! I have a tiny inkling of the time and tedious fitting that has gone into it thus far. Good luck on the hunt..
Are you going topost a picture of it togeather before the hunt?

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Re: 9.3x62 Take downUpdate 19.01 [Re: dale]
      #94758 - 20/01/08 06:21 AM

Looks great Bramble!!.

keeping the classic style of the british sportingrifle, is always gracefull.

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Re: 9.3x62 Take down Finished for Africa. [Re: rigbymauser]
      #94771 - 20/01/08 11:32 AM

Well that is it, finished...or at least as finished as it is going to get before my trip.
When I return it will have to be checkered (something for which I have absolutly no talent ) The gloss coats of oil applied and that hidious rearsight changed.
There was little point in finishing the stock and then subjecting it to sweaty hands for a week.
There are enough coats to protect the wood.
I am also waiting for the red pad to arrive, but the stock has been cut to length in anticipation.

Thank you all for your kind comments during the build.

I will post some hunt photos with her in her natural habitat when I get back.

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Re: 9.3x62 Take down Finished for Africa. [Re: Bramble]
      #94797 - 20/01/08 07:35 PM

That`s a winner
I must indeed say, I envy your skills..

Howcome have chosen the 9.3 mauser?

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Re: 9.3x62 Take down Finished for Africa. [Re: rigbymauser]
      #94828 - 21/01/08 06:29 AM

mark
you are an artist, but you look to normal to be reconised as one . i think we should talk about a joint-venture project, the 600 ne comes to mind...allthough you are not allowed to have a say regarding rear sights , that is an eyesore on a beauty.
have a good trip, shoot a couple of animals for me as well. we will talk when you come home

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: SAHUNT]
      #95079 - 24/01/08 01:15 PM

Hi Bramble,

The rifle is absolutely number 1. I just stumbled onto this forum and it was good to see a lot of people love the Mauser and the takedown idea. I posted a forum requesting information on how this was done earlier with no luck, may I ask, are you doing it with a CNC and CAD / CAM software as I am willing to pay for any asistance in getting mine off the ground ie, copy of plans, software etc.

Again a great looking project.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #95101 - 25/01/08 04:05 AM

Hi Jens

I decided on 9.3 x 62 after using a PH called Leon's one in SA last year. I was impressed with it and its modest recoil for the performance. Also given the age of the doner it seemed to fit well.
I think that the next I build will be in .404

All Best


Chapuisarmes.

Thank you for the kind words, however, I am afraid that every piece of work that you see apart from the small milling job on the latch is entirley hand done, even the checkering on the latch is file cut. With files, stones and grinders etc.
There are no drawings in existence as the dimensions of all the parts were made up as I went along to suit the rifle in question, the stock blank that I had, ball bearings, springs for latches, etc.

Having completed the project the following thoughts strike me.
It would be perfectly possible to make the metal work and supply it fitted and indexed to a re-barreled action with the catch detached but index pinned into the correct position. A stockmaker could then fit the woodwork to the action without too much trouble and file the edges of the mating plates to suit, because the latch is located for fitting on its front pin relative to the slot in the plates, or the whole thing could be finished and blued but the stockmaker would have to be good,. This would be effectivly a "Takedown kit" sans woodwork. The rifle could be prooved without its woodwork.
This would not be extremly expensive. In fact It would proberbly be less than assembling all the kit necesary to carry out the various tasks. As far as I know there are no restrictions in exporting sporting rifles or components to Aus. A lot of the costs here are in fitting and finishing the woodwork.
If you are interested in a costing them please feel free to PM me.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #95116 - 25/01/08 05:53 AM

Quote:



I think that the next I build will be in .404





I'll be watching for that post, I don't know what it is about .404 but it really intrigues me. I must be destined to own one, or at least thats what I'll keep telling the wife

You do fantastic work, keep up the posts!

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #95130 - 25/01/08 09:56 AM

Bramble,
You have a very nice rifle there, and all credit to you for the work that has been done to create it.
Thanks also for taking the time to show us the build, bit by bit, with your photos and words!
There will be many here who have been following this thread, who will be very keen to hear about your hunt with this rifle.
All the best for your safari, and can't wait to watch the .404 come to life when you get that project started.

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: 4seventy]
      #95144 - 25/01/08 01:02 PM

Thank you all for your encouragment, it is a great imputus to finish projects.

Well just 9 days and counting until I leave, I have done all the important packing as you can see below. The wife will deal with the clothes and stuff :-)



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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #95192 - 26/01/08 03:01 AM

Bramble,

I can't receive any photo's posted in photobucket. Something blocked in my company server I think. Anyway, all this talk of the beautiful 9.3 has me wishing you would send me a PM with a photo. I love the classic 9.3x62 and plan to build one as soon as I get my son's off the payroll in a few years. Sure would love to see your work.

Thanks..................Lee

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #95238 - 26/01/08 09:26 PM

All you need is to grab your toothbrush and get on the plane, it is getting very loney here on OR Tambo waiting for you

I cannot wait to see your new baby

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #95326 - 28/01/08 11:19 AM

Bramble,

Fantastic rifle though there was zero doubt that that was what she was going to be! Hope you have an equally fantastic hunt. Can't wait to see the hunt pics here, and, of course, the 404 pics when you start working on her.

Thank you very much for sharing these here and do have a fantastic hunt!

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #95397 - 29/01/08 09:23 AM

Mehulkamdar.

Thank you for your good wishes.

She shoots as well.
This was 50 mts open sights, off a rested hand, with the barrel removed between 2 shot groups and replaced, not allowed to cool. 286 grain solid Woodleighs 53 Grains H 4895 Win standard primer.


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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #95470 - 30/01/08 05:04 AM

Dang, I want one! So how you going to get that fine piece of work to Canada when you sell it to me

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Re: 9.3x62 Takedown work in progress. [Re: Bramble]
      #95797 - 02/02/08 05:25 PM

Bramble,

A rifle that is completely hand-built and shoots that well just HAS to go to Africa! We'll all be looking forward to some great hunting pictures and a hunt report.

Most importantly, you would be hunting with a rifle that you have built yourself. Nothing else can beat that.

Fantastic and thanks for sharing the detailed pictures and rifle building details from start to completion. Very good hunting!

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