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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: Rule303]
      #381483 - 24/12/23 02:30 AM

The skulls weren’t used in the taxidermy, they are actually part of the museum display.
The one photo of Patterson with one of them shows a pretty standard looking lion head shape.
The skins were used as rugs by Patterson so when they were sold to the Chicago Field Museum, they were really too small to be used as a full mount - that is why the legs look unusually thin and really, the lions look thin overall.
I put the long faces down to the taxidermist.


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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: Huvius]
      #381489 - 24/12/23 10:39 AM

Thanks Huvius,

That certainly clears up some doubtful points.


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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: Huvius]
      #381497 - 24/12/23 06:46 PM

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The skulls weren’t used in the taxidermy, they are actually part of the museum display.
The one photo of Patterson with one of them shows a pretty standard looking lion head shape.
The skins were used as rugs by Patterson so when they were sold to the Chicago Field Museum, they were really too small to be used as a full mount - that is why the legs look unusually thin and really, the lions look thin overall.
I put the long faces down to the taxidermist.




Thanks for that information.

If I was getting a "Tsavo" themed rifle custom made for me personally, I'd go for a realistic full faced maneless male lion face on engraving.

Rigby seems to have used the Field Museum full(ish) body mount image or face. Fair enough decision. Up to their customers who buy the rifles.

I'd also go for a real skull look. Perhaps a small pile of them.

On the subject, there was a German painting of maneating lions. With a victim. Rather gruesome. A macabre painting for the wall. Perhaps not pleasant relaxed viewing.

A Tsavo rifle for me would be a ,400. Perhaps a .404. Not remotely historically accurate, Only a Lee Speed type rifle in .303 would be.

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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: NitroX]
      #381541 - 26/12/23 09:08 AM

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On the subject, there was a German painting of maneating lions. With a victim.




Are those like cougars, retired?

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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #381550 - 26/12/23 04:42 PM

It's on the NitroExpress Forums.

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"The Maneaters of Tsavo and Other East-African Adventures"

by Lt-Col. J.H. Patterson

with a foreword by Frederick Courteney Selous


1907 edition 368 pages available to read on the link.

".... Naturally I lost no time in making an examination of the place, and was soon convinced that the man had indeed been carried off by a lion, as its "pug" marks were plainly visible in the sane, while the furrows made by the heels of the victim shows the direction in which he had been dragged away. Moreover, the jemadar shared his tent with half a dozen other workmen, and one of his bedfellows had actually witnessed the occurrence. He graphically described how, at about midnight, the lion suddenly put its head in at the open tent door and seized Ungan Singh - who happened to be the nearest - by the throat. The unfortunate fellow cried out "Choro" ("Let go"), and threw his arms up round the lion's neck. The next moment he was gone ...

Read more using the link:


"The Maneaters of Tsavo and Other East-African Adventures" - see link:
"The Maneaters of Tsavo and Other East-African Adventures"


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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: NitroX]
      #381551 - 26/12/23 04:47 PM



Lions That Stopped A Railroad by LtCol. J.H. Patterson 1907

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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: NitroX]
      #381555 - 26/12/23 06:44 PM

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On the subject, there was a German painting of maneating lions. With a victim. Rather gruesome. A macabre painting for the wall. Perhaps not pleasant relaxed viewing.




After a long search found it.




Artist:
Wilhelm Friedrich Kuhnert (German, 1865–1926)

Title:
Der Menschenfresser

Medium:
Oil on Canvas

Size:
115 x 213 cm. (45.3 x 83.9 in.)

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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: NitroX]
      #381556 - 26/12/23 06:48 PM

If you're careful you can spot a maneater in the jungle shadows.


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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: NitroX]
      #381557 - 26/12/23 06:53 PM




MAN EATERS OF TSAVO, 2002




Man Eaters of Tsavo, 2002
oil on belgian linen
50 x 80 in
(127h x 203.2w cm)
SOLD

It seems hard to believe that these two lions killed and devoured, in a most demonic manner, nearly one hundred and forty people in East Africa, bringing a complete halt to the construction of the British railway. For nearly a year they terrorized Tsavo and become a major concern for the British Prime Minister. These famous lions achieved legendary status with President Theodore Roosevelt stating, “I think that the incident of the Uganda man-eating lions is the most remarkable account of which we have any record.

During my research on these infamous beasts, I began to realize the mountain of challenges I was about to face. I was setting out to paint lions that lived over a century ago, with no direct reference. The hides that represent the mounted forms at the Field Museum in Chicago were in poor condition. I then decided to focus on the spirit of the lions and represent the two characteristics that made them so feared. One represents the aggressive, brutal nature of their attacks. The other was how they often, quite arrogantly and with little concern, consumed their victims within sight and sound, of the others and later returned to finish off the scraps. The dramatic story of the Tsavo Lion’s remains the most remarkable man-eating saga in history.

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Man Eaters of Tsavo, 2002
oil on belgian linen
50 x 80 in
(127h x 203.2w cm)
SOLD

It seems hard to believe that these two lions killed and devoured, in a most demonic manner, nearly one hundred and forty people in East Africa, bringing a complete halt to the construction of the British railway. For nearly a year they terrorized Tsavo and become a major concern for the British Prime Minister. These famous lions achieved legendary status with President Theodore Roosevelt stating, “I think that the incident of the Uganda man-eating lions is the most remarkable account of which we have any record.

During my research on these infamous beasts, I began to realize the mountain of challenges I was

about to face. I was setting out to paint lions that lived over a century ago, with no direct reference. The hides that represent the mounted forms at the Field Museum in Chicago were in poor condition. I then decided to focus on the spirit of the lions and represent the two characteristics that made them so feared. One represents the aggressive, brutal nature of their attacks. The other was how they often, quite arrogantly and with little concern, consumed their victims within sight and sound, of the others and later returned to finish off the scraps. The dramatic story of the Tsavo Lion’s remains the most remarkable man-eating saga in history.

https://www.johnbanovichfineart.com/works/man-eaters-of-tsavo-2002



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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: NitroX]
      #381558 - 26/12/23 07:11 PM

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MAN EATERS OF TSAVO, 2002






I think this painting is a good illustration of the Tsavo man-eaters.

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Re: Rigby "Tsavo" edition Mausers [Re: NitroX]
      #381564 - 26/12/23 11:38 PM

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The Tsavo lions were man-eaters. Man-eaters have human victims.

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I seem to remember a hand or arm mentioned in the book. Perhaps recovered otherwise being carried in the lions mouth. Certainly in Corbett's books there is a mention of a mandated tiger carrying an arm. Different story.

Simple fact man eaters eat humans. Gruesome but true. A reason for the fame of the story.




Found this from the "Maneaters of Tsavo":

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The legs, one arm and half the body had been eaten, and it was the stiff fingers of the other arm trailing along the sand which had left the marks we had taken to
be the trail of a wounded lion.




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