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Homer
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Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British.
      #355826 - 08/08/21 07:34 AM

G'Day Fella's,

FYI, not something you see every day ........ along with the asking price!
https://usedguns.com.au/gun/380358/

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Homer]
      #355831 - 08/08/21 09:31 AM

I have no idea if the pricing is fair but that is a bloody nice rifle. Just outside my price range.

Edited by Rule303 (08/08/21 09:31 AM)


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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Rule303]
      #355832 - 08/08/21 09:38 AM

...scope looks out of place but a beautiful rifle....now, where did I put those Lotto numbers?

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. *DELETED* [Re: yumastepside]
      #355834 - 08/08/21 10:24 AM

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Hunter4752001
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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: thirdbite]
      #355835 - 08/08/21 11:06 AM

I'm not an expert on these by any means. I suspect this might have been "refurbished". The blueing is too deep, black, even and almost a matt finish for a hundred year old rifle. Likewise the stock, while beautiful, isn't in the same style as other Rigby mausers I've seen from the period.

If refurbished then it would depend on whether it was done by Jack the local gunsmith, or whether it had been back to Rigby for a factory 'refresh'. If refreshed by Rigby, then I suspect the sales pitch would have highlighted it.

As said, I'm not an expert. I look forward to hearing from some of our much better informed members.


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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #355838 - 08/08/21 03:50 PM

Ive spoken to the owner
It has been restocked, however the original stock is present with the rifle and in very good condition.
He describes the bore as 10/10, the barrel has the Sackville address. I too believe its had a total refurb, probably during its restocking.
as has been pointed out by Hunter...whi did it

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: paradox_]
      #355840 - 08/08/21 06:37 PM

Looks totally redone. Price is simply ridiculous.

Price: $48500


Calibre/Item: 303
Make: Rigby
Model: Mauser 98
Action: Bolt
Scope: Hertel & Reuss 2-10x
Barrel Length: 25"
Serial No: 3241
Condition: Excellent
Phone: 0437 214 771
Price: $48500
Licence Number: 50001434-00
Advertised: 08/08/2021
Comment: To put you into the picture there are only very few of the slant box .303 British Mausers made, around 40 in this calibre. Here is the info from rigby, this rifle was shipped to the factory pre 1900 as you can see by the serial 673. 3241 is: Action no: 673 Mauser sporting best Sold to : Col W E Melles Sept 10 1919 7lb 6 oz .303 HV 25” barrel 14.1/8” stock Ivory bead, standard v plus 2 leaves. Cross eye stock. Telescope fitted This is a master piece, 400 serials before the first 416 Rigby’s were delivered from conception, what’s left to say.
Transferring Dealer: Western Action Firearms, Mackay Qld

And who sells a "$50,000" rifle with such tiny crappy set of photos? A joke if a gun is really worth such a price.

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: NitroX]
      #355847 - 08/08/21 11:10 PM

Let me bring some light in the darkness.

More than 30 years ago I decided for me to go for a set of 5 Mauser rifles dedicated to the 100 anniversary of the Mauser 98 ( 1898-1998).

Why a set of 5 ?
Just because the set should consist of all action length made for the commercial market.

So It had to be:

The Kurz , the Intermediate Rigby with slanted box , the Intermediate for the 7 Mauser, the Standard length and the Magnum action.

All made on a very high quality level ,stocked in the same style and shape. Every rifle for real hunting use ( No compromise regarding precision and optical quality of the scopes).


The actions ( Only commercial prewar items) had to be in perfect condition as should be the barrels.

The most difficulty was to get the .303 Rigby .
Finally got one, but as to be anticipated in that caliber the barell was more a toilett drainpipe than a barrel. The scope optically more an old Whiskey bottle.

the rest in very good condition ( Including the original stock , rounded pistol grip typical Rigby).
To become a part of the set the barrel had to be replaced.

Barell blank Swiss made Hämmerli . Contour exact copy , The original furniture including the Barrelbanded front scope base reused , the hind base replaced.

The barell inscription ( More a poem than a simple inscription ) meticolously from the original copied. Rigbys scope mounting design changed to Pivot mountig system.

The 5 rifles were marked with gold inlayed numbers in the magazine box latch.
The 303 got the number 3.

Stock and metalwork not by „Jack the local gunsmith „
That work was done by one of the best world wide known German gunmakers . Most would say the very best.

If you now would bring an action of your own to them to build such a rifle price will start at
15.000 €.

But if you are looking for a collectors original unaltered Rigby .303 your evaluation will certainly differ.






Last two digits on the smallparts box (Original trigger and scope mount bases)


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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Rule303]
      #355848 - 08/08/21 11:51 PM

Quote:

I have no idea if the pricing is fair but that is a bloody nice rifle. Just outside my price range.






Yea..me too..JUST outside

Beautiful rifle..

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Ripp]
      #355850 - 09/08/21 12:02 AM

Sorry I was wrong with the Number on the latch.

It was the N0. 2


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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: justcurious]
      #355851 - 09/08/21 12:17 AM

If the gun has complete history including RIGBY having done all work on rifle I would pay price. If not maintained by RIGBY only 5000$ .

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Ahmed577]
      #355852 - 09/08/21 12:32 AM

No. 2 was in the original stock.


in the new stock changed to 3 and 1898 -1998 added



Edited by justcurious (09/08/21 03:40 AM)


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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: justcurious]
      #355863 - 09/08/21 09:06 AM

Do I understand correctly? You had a new barrel fitted and that the new barrel was not a Rigby barrel but you had it inscribed with Rigby markings?

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: justcurious]
      #355864 - 09/08/21 09:09 AM

I just keep buying lotto tickets.....

If I win, I can buy something really nice for the missus, then start thinking about original slant-box Rigbys!

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Marrakai]
      #355873 - 09/08/21 03:59 PM

Just to be clear, I gather the "just curious" rifle and the advertised rifle are different rifles. One in Germany, the other in Queensland. (?) Different stocks and scopes.

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: NitroX]
      #355880 - 09/08/21 05:25 PM

Some may remember my posting for my takedown version of this rifle. its worth reflection on its rarity in relation to the one advertised.

" Rare vintage Rigby"

No doubt the price is silly to say the least
@Just curious...John question is a very good one, is that barrel engraving spuriously engraved on the new barrel, or is that the old barrel??
Not sure I would have altered those Mausers in that way, a fine assmbly none the less!

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #355883 - 09/08/21 06:16 PM

Quote:

Do I understand correctly? You had a new barrel fitted and that the new barrel was not a Rigby barrel but you had it inscribed with Rigby markings?




Exactly what was done.


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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: justcurious]
      #355910 - 10/08/21 09:33 AM

I may be wrong, but I thought the 'Justcurious" rifle and the rifle advertised in Qld were the same. Both were serial number 3241.

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #355912 - 10/08/21 02:34 PM

Hunter, that is correct, they are one in the same rifle

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: paradox_]
      #355913 - 10/08/21 02:45 PM

@Justcurious
Are you able to tell us who completed the rebuilding work on the 303 please?

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #355915 - 10/08/21 04:43 PM

Quote:

I may be wrong, but I thought the 'Justcurious" rifle and the rifle advertised in Qld were the same. Both were serial number 3241.




Therefore my query.

Nice looking rifle and an usual chambering for a Mauser 98.

New barrel with new engraving/labelling and new stock. Basically a custom rifle with an unusual original magazine.

As to the price, not to my interest at all, if it sells that says whether the price is reasonable or not.

Thanks for posting the additional images. Good luck with the sale.

PS Where is it located, in Gemrany or AUstralia like the advert says?

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: NitroX]
      #355920 - 10/08/21 05:54 PM

I sold that rifle years ago .
Do not know if and how it found the way to Australia.

Butit the ,303 is definitely not a usual chambering in a Mauser98 and more than only an unusual original magazine.
The complete action is an unusual Mauser98.


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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: justcurious]
      #355922 - 10/08/21 10:39 PM

Quote:

I sold that rifle years ago .
Do not know if and how it found the way to Australia.

Butit the ,303 is definitely not a usual chambering in a Mauser98 and more than only an unusual original magazine.
The complete action is an unusual Mauser98.




Thanks. You must have been surprised to see it pop up. Interesting to see how some firearms travel from hand to hand over time.

I like the idea of putting a a small scroll in the butt under the butt plate giving tius history and previous owners For fixed recoil pads not as useful now.

I once found my Grandfather's Firearms Licence in the butt in a shotgun he owned.

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: NitroX]
      #357034 - 25/09/21 02:15 AM

https://mail.rcn.com/service/home/~/?auth=co&id=248876&part=2.2

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Re: Original Rigby, 1898, in .303 British. [Re: pjaln]
      #357036 - 25/09/21 02:16 AM

here's my original 303 ,its much older than the scotch

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