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Wedgetail
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Mausers in films
      #344283 - 12/08/20 10:59 AM

I’m Always on the alert for nice rifles in films... best spotto for me is the film Tracker (2010) where Ray Winston carries a C96 and what I assume is a very Oberndorf Type C. Although not sure what’s going in with the rear bridge. Great film too.





The other is the high grade sporter at the start of public enemies where you see Purvis using the DSTs... Any other good ones?



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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Wedgetail]
      #344286 - 12/08/20 08:48 PM

Hi Wedgetail,

The first one seems to be a "sporterized" M93 Mauser, not M98. The second, seems to be a kind of "guild" Mauser M98 sporter.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: PatagonHunter]
      #344287 - 12/08/20 09:08 PM

Ok I stand corrected. It’s been a while since I watched it but something jogged my memory about it. Can you tell it’s an m93 by those photos? If so what are you picking up on?

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Wedgetail]
      #344289 - 12/08/20 10:07 PM

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #344290 - 12/08/20 10:09 PM

If I remember correctly the character in Tracker was a Boer, so a 93' makes sense, same for the C96 pistol

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: EDELWEISS]
      #344292 - 13/08/20 03:07 AM

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Can I just say that Im a sucker for butterknife bolt handles.




"Butterknife bolt handles", you say?

Das Mannlicher Schoenauer in film, 'White Hunter, Black Heart': http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post306237


Clint Eastwood with Mannlicher Schoenauer


Eli Wallach with MS in 'The Brain' (1969)

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #344293 - 13/08/20 03:52 AM

Hi Wedgetail,

Because the bolt schroud is the one in 1893/95/96 Mausers. Without any doubt. Plus the general barrel and stock profile.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: PatagonHunter]
      #346701 - 11/11/20 02:54 AM

I very much like the 98 mauser used in “Father Goose” (Cary Grant film). It appears to be a Gewehr 98 Mauser barreled action with a nicely trimmed custom sporter stock, like a guild sporter, fitted. Nothing particularly special, but I like the style of such rifles, and how well the open sights usually line up for me.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
      #346804 - 13/11/20 01:36 PM

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I very much like the 98 mauser used in “Father Goose” (Cary Grant film). It appears to be a Gewehr 98 Mauser barreled action with a nicely trimmed custom sporter stock, like a guild sporter, fitted. Nothing particularly special, but I like the style of such rifles, and how well the open sights usually line up for me.





Damn you, sir! I absolutely despised that movie when I saw it years ago, and still do, and now I'm going to have to record it the next time it plays on TCM just to fast forward to check out that rifle. Harrumph!



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Re: Mausers in films [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
      #346831 - 14/11/20 01:46 AM

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I very much like the 98 mauser used in “Father Goose” (Cary Grant film). It appears to be a Gewehr 98 Mauser barreled action with a nicely trimmed custom sporter stock, like a guild sporter, fitted. Nothing particularly special, but I like the style of such rifles, and how well the open sights usually line up for me.




Some stills and details with rifle:























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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #346836 - 14/11/20 06:35 AM

Now I'm even more curious! That dockside picture is infuriating. If only they could have shown it from the other side. I'll still have to run through the film I guess, whenever it shows up again. But thank you, Rothhammer, for the photos. Your pictures and scans add tremendously to so many of our threads.

Reminds me of all those ads where the clueless seller posts a picture from the left side. Or with the bolt wide open. Or with the trigger lock still attached. Or all the above. Might as well use a hand-drawn sketch.


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Re: Mausers in films [Re: vykkagur]
      #346837 - 14/11/20 08:12 AM

There was the Movie ''White Heat'' with James Cagney. with the rifle they shot at him with ,I believe is a Mauser ,although the Movie firearms page/list ? claims its a Mannlicher

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: 500Boswell]
      #346850 - 14/11/20 01:44 PM

Mausers in films

Every WW2 movie set in Europe ever made?

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: NitroX]
      #346851 - 14/11/20 01:57 PM

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Mausers in films

Every WW2 movie set in Europe ever made?




Mauser sporters, man, Mauser sporters!!

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Huvius]
      #346856 - 14/11/20 09:19 PM

In the film "Public Enemies" Christian Bale who plays Melvin Purvis uses a Mauser with DST to shoot Pretty Boy Floyd in the vinyard. You see some nice close up shots of the rifle and it being used.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: vykkagur]
      #346874 - 15/11/20 08:32 PM

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Now I'm even more curious! That dockside picture is infuriating. If only they could have shown it from the other side. I'll still have to run through the film I guess, whenever it shows up again.




I was thinking the same!

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: 500Boswell]
      #346875 - 15/11/20 09:45 PM

Quote:

There was the Movie ''White Heat'' with James Cagney. with the rifle they shot at him with ,I believe is a Mauser ,although the Movie firearms page/list ? claims its a Mannlicher






That got me thinking... seems I'd noticed that before.
Looking at IMFDB, they have it as a 'Steyr Mannlicher-Schoenauer'. They also show what appears to be a GK or Model 1952 by way of example (White Heat was released in '49): White Heat IMFDB

Of the three stills shown on IMFDB, one shows the right side though not very well. It seems that the bolt handle is rather close to the trigger guard, unlike an MS:




Then I watched the following clip. At 00:06 - 00:07 the right side is plainly visible and the bolt clearly closes aft of the rear receiver bridge, to which a scope ring is attached. Notice also how he works the bolt at 00:33. It is not a Mannlicher Schoenauer.

White Heat: White Heat Clip

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Huvius]
      #346887 - 16/11/20 04:26 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Mausers in films

Every WW2 movie set in Europe ever made?




Mauser sporters, man, Mauser sporters!!





If they're Hollywood movies, they probably aren't even Mausers.


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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #346888 - 16/11/20 04:34 AM

Quote:

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There was the Movie ''White Heat'' with James Cagney. with the rifle they shot at him with ,I believe is a Mauser ,although the Movie firearms page/list ? claims its a Mannlicher






That got me thinking... seems I'd noticed that before.





Clever visual reference to the great Ned Sparks, Rothhammer (another fellow Canadian, by the way).


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Re: Mausers in films [Re: vykkagur]
      #346894 - 16/11/20 11:47 AM

In the Netflix series "The Crown" there are a number of Mauser that gets used whenever they are up in Scotland.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #346902 - 16/11/20 05:20 PM

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In the Netflix series "The Crown" there are a number of Mauser that gets used whenever they are up in Scotland.

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From Purdeys, no doubt.


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Re: Mausers in films [Re: vykkagur]
      #346908 - 17/11/20 06:18 AM

Yep I saw that. Commercial bolt shrouds, not long to see other details. Princess Anne looks like she’s resting the barrel on a rock to take the shot

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Wedgetail]
      #346915 - 17/11/20 01:20 PM

can't post it but king Solomons mine with Stewart ranger features 2 350 rigbys one which was written about by jack Lott in guns magazine the other was owned by a forestry officials in cali. both guns were sold at the MGM auction in the late 60s

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: pjaln]
      #347114 - 25/11/20 05:23 AM

Season 2, episode 1 of “THE OUTER LIMITS” entitled “Soldier”. The main character, Quarlo Clobregnny, steals a very nice, Teutonic looking Mauser 98 sporter, and threatens the family that has taken him in. This is at almost the end of the episode. I don’t know how to get a screen shot of this rifle to post, but it is quite unique looking.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
      #347136 - 25/11/20 11:30 AM

I went back and looked at the OUTER LIMITS Mauser. It looks a lot like an Erfurt or Danzig post WW1 small ring AZ action factory sporter. It has a thin sporter stock with a low comb and raised side pannels. The bolt handle looks to have been reworked to a crude spoon handle shape. I like it.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
      #347144 - 25/11/20 02:56 PM

My favourite is still Karen Blixen "taking the shot" with her Mauser sporter on the charging lioness in "Out of Africa".
Check it out here.
Its been discussed on these forums before of course.

Finch Hatton is no slouch with the double on the big-maned lion either, but ol'mate with the cut-down P-14 looks like he would rather resort to the knobkerri!

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Marrakai]
      #347191 - 26/11/20 11:41 AM

I believe that is a Westley Richards 318. I forgot about that one. It is SWEEEEET!!!

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Marrakai]
      #347200 - 26/11/20 09:19 PM

Quote:

My favourite is still Karen Blixen "taking the shot" with her Mauser sporter on the charging lioness in "Out of Africa".
Check it out here.
Its been discussed on these forums before of course.

Finch Hatton is no slouch with the double on the big-maned lion either, but ol'mate with the cut-down P-14 looks like he would rather resort to the knobkerri!




The P14 was not out of place in the movie. When in Zimbabwe several years ago the game scouts were armed with them. They had had the AK's taken off them after one shot somebody accidentally with his.


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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #349081 - 11/01/21 02:35 AM

Quote:

Quote:

There was the Movie ''White Heat'' with James Cagney. with the rifle they shot at him with ,I believe is a Mauser ,although the Movie firearms page/list ? claims its a Mannlicher






That got me thinking... seems I'd noticed that before.
Looking at IMFDB, they have it as a 'Steyr Mannlicher-Schoenauer'. They also show what appears to be a GK or Model 1952 by way of example (White Heat was released in '49): White Heat IMFDB

Of the three stills shown on IMFDB, one shows the right side though not very well. It seems that the bolt handle is rather close to the trigger guard, unlike an MS:




Then I watched the following clip. At 00:06 - 00:07 the right side is plainly visible and the bolt clearly closes aft of the rear receiver bridge, to which a scope ring is attached. Notice also how he works the bolt at 00:33. It is not a Mannlicher Schoenauer.

White Heat: White Heat Clip





UPDATE: I recently recorded "White Heat" on TCM and froze on an excellent picture of the rifle used by Edmond O'Brien to take out James Cagney in the final shootout. You're absolutely spot-on, Rothhammer: No M-S, but a Mauser, virtually identical to the one in the "Public Enemies" photo above, but with a scope on it. I wondered why the Purvis character would be using it without the scope in its clearly empty claw mounts. It might very well be the same rifle, that's been languishing in some Hollywood prop house for the last 60-odd years. Maybe the scope was lost to rough handling - or just lost. With claw mounts, that would explain why they couldn't just throw on any old Tasco.


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Re: Mausers in films [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
      #349096 - 11/01/21 10:03 AM

Quote:

Season 2, episode 1 of “THE OUTER LIMITS” entitled “Soldier”. The main character, Quarlo Clobregnny, steals a very nice, Teutonic looking Mauser 98 sporter, and threatens the family that has taken him in. This is at almost the end of the episode. I don’t know how to get a screen shot of this rifle to post, but it is quite unique looking.




Now the 'incidental music' from Outer Limits episodes is cycling through my head.



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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #349204 - 13/01/21 10:54 AM

Watched "Killer Leopard " the other day with Tarzan's son Boy as the main character, all the white hunters were using full stocked Mauser 98. Interesting that the production company had these on hand. Jane was no where to be found.

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Rule303]
      #349216 - 13/01/21 05:50 PM

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The P14 was not out of place in the movie. When in Zimbabwe several years ago the game scouts were armed with them. They had had the AK's taken off them after one shot somebody accidentally with his.




They solve this in Zambia by giving the game scouts a AK-47 with no sights and only one cartridge ....

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: Marrakai]
      #349217 - 13/01/21 06:03 PM

Quote:

My favourite is still Karen Blixen "taking the shot" with her Mauser sporter on the charging lioness in "Out of Africa".
Check it out here.
Its been discussed on these forums before of course.

Finch Hatton is no slouch with the double on the big-maned lion either, but ol'mate with the cut-down P-14 looks like he would rather resort to the knobkerri!




I too enjoy that scene. Watched the move at Christmas, the first time for years. Once it was one of my favourites, actually got me very interested in travelling to Africa or even living there, however I must have already had the bug big time, as I tried to get placed in Africa a year or two earlier. I think Ghana or Burkina Faso was on offer. Did not pursue them as they were a little "adventerous" for a person who never had even been outside of Australia at the time.

Then DID GET OFFERED South Africa working for Rembrandt Corporation but they wanted to pay me less than a "junior office girl" per an Aussie Afrikaaner friend. AND the job was in Econometrics, modelling the South African economy. I did start studying Econometrics as an extra, did not need it for my degree, and dropped out before it counted as a failed subject. Ended up in London instead and travelled down to Kenya, then across Tanzania, Malawi, Zambia, into Zimbabwe, across to Botswana and then back to Zim. I had a smuggled apartheid era South African visa in my jackets lining, but ran out of money and had to go back to London to work again!

Back to Out of Africa, I enjoyed it much, then not so much, the Finch Hatton character's pontification is annoying, and out of character for the real man. Also Redford's hopeless acting and complete inability to play a British gentleman meant the Director resorted to him playing "Robert Redford" instead of a real Finch Hatton. The movie is a bit plagued with the beginnings of movie PCism. Poor old Blix is castigated in the movie. Karen Blixen was no saint and a huge spender on frivolities. One reason the farm went bankrupt was her spending on Parisian wardrobes, huge parties for Kings, cooking schools etc. Alluded to in the movie with the references to lemoge and lace and white gloves and "things".

Now I enjoy it again, not having watched it for a while.

The shooting lions scene is an attempt to introduce a PC acceptable hunting scene, the hunting of dangerous charging lions in self defence. Blixen reported liking hunting lions. Regarded as a pest at the time.

As we have threads on NE about the REAL Blixen Mauser rifle(s), it is easy to go and look at them!

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Re: Mausers in films [Re: NitroX]
      #349221 - 13/01/21 07:35 PM

The real rifle. Or one of them. And what a nice example. Almost makes one want a .50 Rigby Magnum Mauser 98!

.350 Rigby Magnum

the Blixen house in Rungsted - by Lancaster
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=174475&an=&page=0&vc=1

The Blixen Museum .350 Magnum RigbyMauser
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=185641&an=&page=0&vc=1


However per another thread, it appears the rifle and double barrelled are no longer hanging on the wall.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=277563&an=&page=0&vc=1



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