Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact
NitroExpress.com: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler

View recent messages : 24 hours | 48 hours | 7 days | 14 days | 30 days | 60 days | More Smilies


*** Enjoy NitroExpress.com? Participate and join in. ***

Shooting & Reloading - Mausers, Big Bores and others >> Mauser Discussion Forum

Pages: 1
lancaster
.450 member


Reged: 06/05/08
Posts: 5028
Loc: There's a lighthouse in the mi...
Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler
      #317925 - 10/07/18 04:07 AM

rare as hen's teeth Gundog01 send me pics of his 11,2x60 Schüler









hope we get more and better pics showing the whole rifle in the next day when gundog01 having more time


what is it?



is it Ed. Kettner Cöln Suhl?

the orignal scope is lost? do you relaod for this rifle?




https://www.gunbroker.com/item/778848385

--------------------
Norwegian hunter misses moose, shoots man on toilet
.
bringing civilisation to the barbarians

Edited by lancaster (10/07/18 04:16 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Huvius
.416 member


Reged: 04/11/07
Posts: 2762
Loc: Colorado
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: lancaster]
      #317927 - 10/07/18 05:48 AM

Does anybody have that catalog reprint?
Looks like it may be worth buying.

--------------------
He who lives in the past is doomed to enjoy it.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
93x64mm
.400 member


Reged: 07/12/11
Posts: 1277
Loc: Nth QLD Australia
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: Huvius]
      #317928 - 10/07/18 06:11 AM

Hope we get to see more photos of this rifle of yours Gundog01!
Very unusual calibre - would love to see what see could do in the field!
It would be a shame not to re-scope this old girl, but what would you put back on her (if you did) & are modern replacement mounts still available or are these all hand fitted?


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Gundog01
.300 member


Reged: 16/05/15
Posts: 248
Loc: Ohio usa
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: 93x64mm]
      #317936 - 10/07/18 11:03 AM

Sorry for the terrible pics, I had to snap fast ones before I left for the airport, I will try and get some more by Friday when I return.

It is an it Ed. Kettner Cöln Suhl, I plan on getting mounts made for it one day soon, I just need to find someone who is taking on the work. I would most likely put on a new German short tube optic for larger game and get this rifle up and ready for a hunt as soon as possible.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
lancaster
.450 member


Reged: 06/05/08
Posts: 5028
Loc: There's a lighthouse in the mi...
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: Huvius]
      #317944 - 10/07/18 01:48 PM

Quote:

Does anybody have that catalog reprint?
Looks like it may be worth buying.




follow the link I give
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/778848385

the scope mount is hand fitting
If I had the rifle here it would be possible to set another scope on the rifle for 200 euro but in the states its hard to find someone who can do it.

--------------------
Norwegian hunter misses moose, shoots man on toilet
.
bringing civilisation to the barbarians


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
xausa
.400 member


Reged: 07/03/07
Posts: 1843
Loc: Tennessee, USA
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: lancaster]
      #317946 - 10/07/18 02:08 PM

NECG has fitted claw mount rings for me in the past.

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Gundog01
.300 member


Reged: 16/05/15
Posts: 248
Loc: Ohio usa
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: xausa]
      #317948 - 10/07/18 10:00 PM

Quote:

NECG has fitted claw mount rings for me in the past.




I would use Lee Labas or Reto before NECG.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Gen_Hicks
.300 member


Reged: 15/10/12
Posts: 123
Loc: Lowveld, South Africa
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: Gundog01]
      #317990 - 12/07/18 10:54 PM

Where on earth to find ammo for that?!!

Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
tinker
.416 member


Reged: 12/03/05
Posts: 3708
Loc: Nevada
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: Gundog01]
      #317992 - 12/07/18 11:35 PM

Quote:

Quote:

NECG has fitted claw mount rings for me in the past.




I would use Lee Labas or Reto before NECG.




Jack Huntington also fits claw (and other QD) mounts to fine rifles.

--------------------
--Self-Appointed Colonel, DRSS--



"It IS a dangerous game, and so named for a reason, and you can't play from the keyboard. " --Some Old Texan...


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
kuduae
.400 member


Reged: 13/01/10
Posts: 1257
Loc: middle of Germany
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: Gen_Hicks]
      #317994 - 13/07/18 12:39 AM

Quote:

Where on earth to find ammo for that?!!



Nowhere! A case for an advanced handloader. You have to get a set of reloading dies, a lathe, .45-90 brass. Turn the bases to rebated rimless, fl size. Trim to 60 mm. Get or make some 11.2 mm = .440" bullets. .45" bullets may be swaged down. the original 1934 DWM load was a 21.5 g = 332 gr steel jacketed bullet ahead of 4.00 g = 62 gr Rottweil #5 smokeless powder for 680 m/s = 2230 fps (72 cm = 28" test barrel)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
bouldersmith
.333 member


Reged: 23/03/06
Posts: 455
Loc: Boulder Colorado
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: kuduae]
      #317995 - 13/07/18 12:55 AM

http://www.woodleighbullets.com.au/bullet-lists/traditional/405-458-list

bullets

--------------------
New website http://www.bertramandco.com


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
lancaster
.450 member


Reged: 06/05/08
Posts: 5028
Loc: There's a lighthouse in the mi...
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: bouldersmith]
      #317996 - 13/07/18 01:24 AM

45-90 is not the best basic case because base diameter is under 12,8mm and the base diameter for the 11,2x60 is 13,00 mm like the mother case 11,15x60R Mauser 71.

absolut best basic case for this round is the 458 Win Mag but any other of this belted cases will work as well. I have got a lot of 300 once fired 300 Win mag cases and need two days to form this into 11,2x60 Schüler.
24 differents steps and lost less the 10 of the 300 but if you buy brass I recommand 458 Win Mag.

--------------------
Norwegian hunter misses moose, shoots man on toilet
.
bringing civilisation to the barbarians


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Maxim
.224 member


Reged: 04/06/16
Posts: 35
Loc: Michigan USA
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: lancaster]
      #317998 - 13/07/18 02:19 AM

An excerpt from a Nitro Express post from pwm of 2005:

"The 11,2x60 can be made from any brass from 300 win Mag to 458 win mag. You have to cut the belt from the case and trim the rebated rim to 8mm Mauser dim.. Best is the 458 Win Mag, annealing, full length resizing and trimming to 60mm – ready. Have found some 300 Win Mag cases, will also anneal this brass and blow it out with a fire form load in the chamber. "


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
lancaster
.450 member


Reged: 06/05/08
Posts: 5028
Loc: There's a lighthouse in the mi...
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: Maxim]
      #318000 - 13/07/18 02:23 AM

fully agree with pwn words because its my older name before a crash



bullets:

330 grains softpoint from Wim Degol in belgium
350 grains Hornady .458 swaged down to .440
330 grains lead bullet, iirc a Lyman mould swaged from .458 to .440
230 grains fullmetall for the 45 ACP swaged from .451 to .440
-best target bullet you can get
230 grains hollow point
185 grains hollow point sierra swaged form .451 to .440




11,15x60R Mauser( reloaded)
DWM factory 11,2x60 Schüler
rare Horneber case 11,2x60 loaded with the 330 grains Degol bullet
case made from 458 Win Mag loaded with a 270 grains Delsing bullet
case made from 300 Win Mag




DWM headstamp
Horneber case without headstamp
the case made from 458 Win Mag
and the case made from 300 Win Mag



I recommend the 458 Win Mag

load my ammo with a RCBS 11,15x60R Mauser 71 die set because it was there but if you order a set take the ch4d 11,2x60 Schüler die

Edited by lancaster (13/07/18 03:06 AM)


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Ash
.400 member


Reged: 10/05/11
Posts: 1430
Loc: QLd, Australia
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: lancaster]
      #318009 - 13/07/18 10:00 PM

I want one!

--------------------
.


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
lancaster
.450 member


Reged: 06/05/08
Posts: 5028
Loc: There's a lighthouse in the mi...
Re: Gundog01 11,2x60 Schüler [Re: Ash]
      #318015 - 14/07/18 01:48 AM

they are rare like hen's teeths, you need good luck to find one

--------------------
Norwegian hunter misses moose, shoots man on toilet
.
bringing civilisation to the barbarians


Post Extras: Print Post   Remind Me!   Notify Moderator  
Pages: 1



Extra information
0 registered and 17 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  NitroX 

Print Topic

Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Topic views: 435

Rate this topic

Jump to

Contact Us NitroExpress.com

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5


Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact


Copyright 2003 to 2011 - all rights reserved