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Peterlongo
      #315817 - 29/04/18 05:38 PM

Ho comprato una carabina Stutzen in cal. 6,5x57, usata. L'armiere dice che è del Peterlongo. Non vi è la firma, solo il n.10635. Si può risalire al fabbricante ? se si, come ?
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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #315819 - 29/04/18 06:35 PM

Okay ?????

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #315822 - 29/04/18 07:18 PM

Translation for All: I bought a second-hand stuntmen rifle in 6,5x57. The rifle shop I bought it from stated it was manufactured by Peterlongo however their is no mention of the maker on the rifle, only the serial number n.10365. Is there any hope to find the information directly from Peterlongo? Thank you. Petro

Petro. I can read Italian but can't write it well. More information about Peterlongo available at http://www.germanhuntingguns.com/about-the-makers/peterlongo-johann-of-innsbruck-austria/ . The company stopped trading in the 70's I think.

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Louis]
      #315823 - 29/04/18 07:23 PM

Peterlongo made rifles also, iirc the firm starts making colt revolver in the 1860s for the austrain navy under licence, but most of the guns with this name were made in Suhl or Ferlach
pics will help

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Louis]
      #315824 - 29/04/18 07:48 PM

Sig. Louis
grazie per il Suo intervento. Grazie per il suggerimento. Avevo già contattato il sito " Germanhuntingguns " ma non mi hanno dato ulteriori chiarimenti.

Io chiedo se con il numero di matricola 10635 posso risalire al fabbricante del mio Stutzen, ossia se è da attribuire al Peterlongo oppure ad altri.
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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #315825 - 29/04/18 07:50 PM


Grazie Sig. Lancaster. Purtroppo l'unico indizio che ho è il numero di matricola 10635.
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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #315826 - 29/04/18 10:00 PM

Peterlongo, Johann (Hans the Elder) (1854-1930), manufacturer

Peterlongo Johann (Hans the Elder), manufacturer. * Innsbruck, 1. 1. 1854; † Innsbruck, May 21, 1930. After graduation. the commercial school and military service he join the arms trading and production companies of his father founded 1854 in Innsbruck(in the former Palais Sarnthein) whose branch was located in Ferlach (Carinthia). After the death of his father, Johann P. (1826-98), he took the Thuringian weapons expert R. Mahrholdt in the Fa., Which had become purely commercial because of bad business. Through tough, one-and-a-half decades of development work, the new management of the Tyrolean weapons factory Johann P. was able to gain a respected position worldwide. The Innsbruck factory now specialized more and more in hunting weapons marked by accuracy and elegant decor and until 1914 became the largest and most respected such enterprise of the monarchy. P. weapons were also abroad - u. a. in North and South America as well as in the German and Dutch. Colonies - much sought after. After the end of the First World War P. handed over the Fa to his son Hans P. d. J. (1889-1946), who sold it in 1939 to R. Mahrholdt († 1949).

http://www.biographien.ac.at/oebl/oebl_P/Peterlongo_Johann_1854_1930.xml

to my knowledge there are neither factory papers surviving nor is someone working on a peterlongo data base. its common for such a firm that the serial numbers continuing over decades. so if you have some serial numbers you can see when such a rilfe can be build or not. pics of your rifle will help also especially the proof marks but with a look on the general design you can say its pre ww 1, between the wars or after in many cases.
sometimes its possible that the gun build for Petewrlongo in the trade maybe in Suhl or Ferlach having two serial numbers - the one by the maker and another by the trader. this is not allways logical.
just take a look for other peterlongo guns to get an impression

post ww 2 Mahrholdt Peterlongo combination gun made in Ferlach SN 38306
http://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/b..._38306_c/l/4082

so after the war maybe in the 1950s they reach 38000




late Mahrhold Petertlongo combination gun SN 83854
http://www.icollector.com/Engraved-Gold-...Rifle_i17959803


johann Peterlongo drilling SN 18219
https://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/johann-peterlongo-innsbruck-drilling-kal-16-8-7-mm/i3864963/#

looks like between the wars

Marholdt-Peterlongo combination gun SN 31652
http://www.icollector.com/Unique-Austria...hotgun_i9387800


so in 1939 when Mahrholdt take over Peterlongo the firm was maybe in the early 30000

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: lancaster]
      #315829 - 30/04/18 12:17 AM

Bopi. Photos of the rifle, in particular of all markings above and below the woodline, may provide good indications of your stutzen's history. Louis

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Louis]
      #315864 - 30/04/18 11:46 PM

Grazie per il Vostro interessamento. Appena possibile farò delle foto. Al momento pubblico quella dell'Armeri:http://www.armeriaguglielmo.it/occasione2.html.
Grazie ancora. Pietro


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #315875 - 01/05/18 03:47 AM

looks excellent



the scope is not original anymore but on the other hand its a still state of the art zeiss that will be enough for most hunting situations

700 euro seems a good price for such a nice rifle. I think its made before 1914 or after 1918,
clearly look alike the Mannlicher Schönauer Stutzen.

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: lancaster]
      #315890 - 01/05/18 03:09 PM

Egr. Sig. Lancaster
grazie per l' "excellent". Devo ancora provarlo in poligono. Anche io, quando ho visto la foto,ho pensato al Mannlicher. La canna è ottagonale all'inizio.
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Re: Peterlongo [Re: lancaster]
      #315893 - 01/05/18 05:18 PM

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looks excellent



clearly look alike the Mannlicher Schönauer Stutzen.




It has had a 'duffel cut', as evident in the photo, and the recoil pad has surely been added.

That's a very nice looking engraved 'butterknife' bolt handle which is, of course, in the Mauser location (MS is forward of the rear ring). Nice engraved grip cap, as well.

A lovely firearm, overall.

Mauser Stutzen:


Mannlicher Schoenauer Stutzen:


Both from the 1939 Stoeger catalog (US). Stoeger was the 'sole U.S. importer' of both Mauser and Mannlicher Schoenauer.

Per usinflationcalculator.com , each 1939 US Dollar would be worth $17.95 today.
The 'off the shelf' 7X57 Mauser Stutzen (with single trigger) was $148.00, or $2657.12 today (2203.48 Euro). The 6.5X57 Mauser was not offered in the '39 Stoeger.

More from the '39 Stoeger:




















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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #315897 - 01/05/18 08:25 PM

its not a duffle cut, the stock was cut and connetected again to prevent it from making pressure on the barrel. not uncommen at all and I have seen it many times before but just now cant find the pic of another stock with this feature.


La canna del fucile è un'opera tipica di Suhl, prima di un terzo ottagonale e poi rotonda.
Il fucile è stato probabilmente realizzato in Suhl per Peterlongo e poi ha anche il marchio Suhl sotto la canna

buona fortuna con il fucile

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #315898 - 01/05/18 08:30 PM

Egregi Signori
da appassionato, anche se totalmente incompetente, mi fa enormemente piacere verificare l'interesse che questo mio recente acquisto ha suscitato in Voi. Spero di poter dire, un giorno, che è effettivamente un " Peterlongo ".
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Re: Peterlongo [Re: lancaster]
      #315901 - 01/05/18 09:24 PM

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its not a duffle cut, the stock was cut and connetected again to prevent it from making pressure on the barrel.




Not doubting your knowledge, but that seems a rather extreme measure.

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #315906 - 01/05/18 10:28 PM

Quote:

Quote:

its not a duffle cut, the stock was cut and connetected again to prevent it from making pressure on the barrel.




Not doubting your knowledge, but that seems a rather extreme measure.




You see this parted for Tension relieving two part foreends quite often on German and Austrian full stocked hunting rifles. A common remedy against barrel tension from foreend warping.


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: kuduae]
      #315924 - 02/05/18 01:09 AM

Looks like a interwar years Suhl made rifle. Mahrholdt/Peterlongo had many of "their" guns made by the Suhl guntrade, especially Schmidt & Habermann Look out for a tiny "Esha" stamp hidden somewhere under barrel. The half-octagon ribbed barrel and the bolthandle treatment are typical Suhl features.
Richard Mahrholdt, 1878 – 1949, had many relations to the German gunmakers in Suhl, Zella – Mehlis and Soemmerda. He was a close friend of the Burgsmuellers in Kreiensen. After Johann Peterlongo passed away in 1898, he took over and ran the company as "Tiroler Waffenfabrik Peterlongo, Richard Mahrholdt & Sohn". From 1918 son Herbert Mahrholdt managed the business. Later grandson Erwin Mahrholdt took over until the shop closed down in the 1970s.


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: kuduae]
      #315941 - 02/05/18 02:55 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

(from Lancaster) its not a duffle cut, the stock was cut and connetected again to prevent it from making pressure on the barrel.




Not doubting your knowledge, but that seems a rather extreme measure.




(from Kuduae) You see this parted for Tension relieving two part foreends quite often on German and Austrian full stocked hunting rifles. A common remedy against barrel tension from foreend warping.




That is what makes this 'site so valuable - knowledge !

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #316006 - 03/05/18 05:38 PM

Egregi Signori
Non so se la documentazione fotografica sia riuscita. Dalla mia indagine ( da incompetente ) sono emerse le seguenti scritte e/o sigle:
- Sulla canna . cal.6,5x57. GRUPP – LAUFSIAHLD
- Sempre sulla canna il simbolo di una coroncina con lettera N. Ed ancora St.m.G. 10gr.
- La sigla B.U.
- Sulla manetta dell’otturatore la sigla B.U. 10635

Appena capirò come inoltrare le foto fatte, le invierò.
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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #316009 - 03/05/18 06:33 PM

In english:

Dear Sirs
I do not know if the photographic documentation was successful. From my investigation (from incompetente) the following writings and / or acronyms have emerged:
- On the cane. cal.6,5x57. GRUPP - LAUFSIAHLD
- Always on the barrel the symbol of a chaplet with letter N. And again St.m.G. 10gr.
- The abbreviation B.U.
- On the handle of the shutter the abbreviation B.U. 10635

As soon as I understand how to forward the photos, I will send them.
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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Igorrock]
      #316011 - 03/05/18 07:08 PM

Igorrock, thank you for the translation; I think that 'coroncina' also means 'crown' in Italian.

Bopi, while waiting for your photos (you may trip to use www.picr.de to upload them), the markings and proof marks you mentioned may be the following ones:
- 'Coroncina' (crown) + 'N' underneath: German pre-1950 smokeless powder proof.
- '6,5x57': caliber
- 'Grupp Laufiahld' may be 'Krupp Laufstahl': barrel made of Krupp steel.
- 'St.m.G' 10gr': Stahlmantel Geschoss 10 gr' - Rifle proofed with 10 grams steel jacketed bullet; post-1912 marking according to some sources.
- 'B' & 'U' - 'B': 'Beschuss' (proof load fired) & 'U': 'Untersuchung' (inspected for defects).
No Austrian proof marks but only pre-WW2 German ones. Is '10635' your stutzen's serial number?

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Louis]
      #316030 - 03/05/18 10:29 PM

Egr. Sig. Igorrock
grazie di cuore per la traduzione. Tutto questo mi aiuta, grazie al Suo ed agli interventi degli Altri Esperti, a capire meglio la carabina che ho comprato ed ... ad apprezzarla sempre di più.
Egr. Sig.Louis non saprei darLe una risposta. Il numero 10635, preceduto dalla sigla B.U., è stampato sulla levetta di armamento dell'otturatore.
Pietro
p.s. Appena mio figlio deciderà di aiutarmi, cercherò di postare delle foto.


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #316039 - 03/05/18 11:35 PM

"Egr. Mr. Igorrock thank you for the translation. All this helps me, thanks to His and the interventions of the Other Experts, to better understand the rifle that I bought and ... to appreciate it more and more. Egr. Sig.Louis I could not give you an answer. The number 10635, preceded by the initials B.U., is printed on the shutter armature lever. Peter

P.S. As soon as my son decides to help me, I will try to post some photos."


Serial number BU 10635 tells that this rifle has proofed so early as 1905.

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Igorrock]
      #316061 - 04/05/18 03:10 PM

Egr. Sig. Igorrock
quanto Lei afferma, sul numero di serie, potrebbe già circoscrivere la ricerca ed eventualmente rendere concreta la certezza che si tratti di un " Peterlongo " ?
Pietro.
p.s. è inutile che Le dica " GRAZIE " ... per tutto.


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #316071 - 04/05/18 05:24 PM

Serial number doesn´t tell anything about "Peterlongo", it just tells the year when this rifle has been proofed. IMO yours Mauser is very nice custom rifle. It would be nice if it has been build in Peterlongo factory but without any visible evidence it´s just a nice quite old Mauser rifle.

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Igorrock]
      #316098 - 05/05/18 03:26 AM

Egregi Signori
Stamattina il Sig. AUER Hermann, valentissimo Maestro Armaiolo in Brunico ( BZ ), Italia, del quale mi onoro di possedere una Bolt e che “ importuno “ spesso e volentieri su questioni armiere, mi diceva che di Banchi di Prova, nell’Impero Austro – Ungarico, ce n’erano diversi ed in più luoghi. Questo mi ha spinto ad una ulteriore ricerca su Internet e sono capitato sul sito del Dottor Edoardo Mori che qui riporto:
https://www.earmi.it/armi/database/Guida...0da%20fuoco.pdf
da una rapida ricerca, mi è sembrato di capire che la punzonatura della corona con N sottostante e la sigla St.m.G si debba riferire alla Germania, periodo 1891-1912.
Non ho trovato elementi sulla sigla B.U seguito da numero seriale.
Penso che contatterò quanto prima il Dott. Mori.


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #316103 - 05/05/18 06:25 AM

"Dear Sirs
This morning Mr. AUER Hermann, very talented Master Weapon in Brunico (BZ), Italy, of which I am honored to own a Bolt and that "imposes" more often on arms issues, told me that of Test Benches, in the Austro Empire - Ungarico, there were several and in many places. This pushed me to further research on the Internet and I happened on the website of Dr. Edoardo Mori that I report here:
https://www.earmi.it/armi/database/Guida...0da%20fuoco.pdf
from a quick search, I seemed to understand that the punching of the crown with N below and the initials St.m.G should refer to Germany, period 1891-1912.
I did not find any elements on the abbreviation B.U followed by serial number.
I think I will contact Dr. Mori as soon as possible."



You should find somewhere book Speed-Schmid-Herrman: Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles
There is a long list dated m98 Mauser serial numbers with BU, BUG and BUGN proof markings. With this list I dated yours rifle.



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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Igorrock]
      #316126 - 06/05/18 12:46 AM


Pre WW2 German proofs (from the 1939 Stoeger catalog):


Click the link below for step - by - step instructions to use picr.de. It is a very simple way to post photos at no cost:

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #316157 - 06/05/18 09:48 PM

I have a Johann Peterlongo rifle in the proprietary 9 X 71 Peterlongo cartridge. First, I know very little of Peterlongo or his rifles other than mine. Mine has a banner on the front the receiver ring that states "Johann Peterlongo, Innsbruk".

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #316158 - 06/05/18 10:16 PM

Rothhammer, there are some misconceptions in the above table of German proofmarks used 1893 -1939, as published by Stoeger in 1939:
The German Imperial eagle was the mark for primary proof of the rough bored barrels alone. Rarely on post-WW1 guns. From the start primary proof was not mandatory. At the times of hammer welded damascus barrels it was for the sake of the gunmaker, to keep him from investing work into faulty barrel blanks.
The crown/B = Beschuss = proof load fired mark is not restricted to "foreign arms". It is the mark for the final proof.
The crown/U = Untersuchung = View mark stand for the inspection after final proof firing.
Crown/G = Geschoss is for guns using a solid projectile, mostly rifles, but some smoothbores too.
Crown/N stands for Nitro = smokeless proof, of course.
So a German proofed rifle barrel usually shows four marks, crown/B, crown/U, crown/G and crown/N, BUGN in short.
Exceptions: The Oberndorf proofhouse at the Mauser factory before 1918 marked commercial sporters on 98 actions BU only. All 98 action arms then were rifles and used smokeless cartridges. Why mark the obvious? After the end of WW1 Geha and Remo shotguns on 98 actions appeared, so Oberndorf marked the rifles BUG. In the 1920s Mauser started to build Wehrmannsgewehre on 98 actions for the originally blackpowder 8.15x46R target cartridge. From then on Oberndorf used the full BUGN set.
From 1893 to about 1923 an alternate set of proofmarks was used on some rifles. The marks were a big crown with the crown/N mark besides. These marks indicated proof using the special smokeless "4000 atm proof powder".


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: kuduae]
      #316159 - 06/05/18 10:29 PM

hopi, I don't understand your Italian posts. This is an English language forum. Why don't you post in English, as everybody else does? Ich poste ja auch nicht auf Deutsch.
As your rifle has German pre-1940 proofmarks it was definitely not made by Peterlongo in Innsbruck, Austria, but by someone in Suhl or Zella – Mehlis,Germany. If there is the Peterlongo address somewhere on barrel or receiver, it was made in Germany for retail by Peterlongo. If the word "Peterlongo" does not appear on the rifle, it may have been retailed by anyone, including Peterlongo.


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: kuduae]
      #316189 - 07/05/18 04:26 PM

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Rothhammer, there are some misconceptions in the above table of German proofmarks used 1893 -1939, as published by Stoeger in 1939:...





Thank you again, Herr Eichendorff!

As usual, your post is concise, precise, and very informative. Such information is solid gold and I appreciate your efforts to communicate and share your knowledge for the benefit of all.


Stoeger's purpose, of course, was selling product to their U.S. customers. As importers of Mauser, Luger, Mannlicher Schoenauer, and some other European arms they offered only this cursory explanation:


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #316212 - 08/05/18 07:30 PM

Egregi Signori
ringrazio tutti per i Vostri competenti interventi. Dovrò, per problemi di connessione con Internet, diradare i miei interventi e leggere le Vostre graditissime e, ripeto, competenti informazioni. Me ne scuso, ma durerà solo per questo mese di Maggio.
Pubblico quanto il Dr. Mori, da me interpellato, mi ha fatto pervenire.
" Le armi Peterlongo recano il suo nome; non aveva ragione di nasconderlo. Talvolta faceva costruire le armi altre ditte, ma sempre sotto il proprio marchio.
La ditta e la stata fondata dal padre Peter nel 1854 a Innsbruck e morto nel 1898; Johann Peterlongo, nato nello stesso anno della fondazione, entrò da giovane nella ditta che aveva anche una sede secondaria a Ferlach. La ditta andò male, non produceva più direttamente e si occupava solo della rendita, e dopo la morte del padre si associò al noto esperto di armi Mahrholdt che fino la 1914 la portò à fama mondiale. Dopa la guerra la ditta venne proseguita dal figlio Hans Peter che la cedette al Mahrholdt nel 1939
La scritta Krupp Laufstahl vuol solo dire che le canne sono state prodotte con acciaio di tale marca.
È possibile che nel periodo di crisi abbia fatto produrre da altre ditte e che abbia venduto senza mettere il proprio nome; ma mi pare una cosa strana perché in quel periodo il nome e l'unica cosa che gli era rimasto!"
Cordiali saluti a Tutti.
Pietro


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #316247 - 10/05/18 05:15 AM

Egr. Sig. Kuduae
sono un vecchiaccio di 68 anni che solo da pochi anni ( 5 ) si è dedicato alla caccia degli ungulati alpini ( Alpi Piemontesi ) e quindi alla canna rigata della quale è completamente incompetente. Purtroppo lo scrivente ha un grosso difetto: è appassionato di armi. In particolare dell'Artigianato armiero.Ho acquistato quello Stutzen perché mi ricordava il Mannlicher Schonauer ( posseggo 2 bolt MCA )ben sapendo che invece la meccanica fosse di un K98 ma ... se riuscissi a dare una Paternità al mio Stutzen, non necessariamente deve essere Peterlongo, avrei toccato il cielo con un dito.La passione è anche questo.
Pietro

ps purtroppo non conosco le lingue e non mi fido del traduttore di Google.Devo ringraziare di cuore il Sig.Igorrock che ha tradotto i miei interventi permettendo a tanti di Voi di intervenire e di farmi pervenire il proprio contributo.
Grazie a Tutti.


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #316286 - 11/05/18 04:56 PM

"Egr. Mr. Kuduae
I am a 68 year old old man who only a few years ago (5) has dedicated himself to the hunting of alpine ungulates (Piedmont Alps) and therefore to the barrel of which he is completely incompetent. Unfortunately the writer has a major flaw: he is passionate about weapons. In particular, I bought the Stutzen craft because it reminded me of the Mannlicher Schonauer (I own 2 bolt MCA) knowing full well that the mechanics was a K98 but ... if I could give a Paternity to my Stutzen, not necessarily being Peterlongo, I would have touched the sky with a finger. Passion is also this.
Peter

ps unfortunately I do not know the languages and I do not trust the Google translator. I would like to thank Mr Igorrock who has translated my speeches allowing many of you to intervene and to send me your contribution.
Thank you all."


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Igorrock]
      #316287 - 11/05/18 07:30 PM

bopi, at 68 you are a young man to me. I am 70. Maybe we can find the real maker of your rifle. At least we may be able to date it and where it was made and proofed. You have to take the rifle apart , out of the stock, and post photos of all the marks and numbers under the barrel.

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Re: Peterlongo [Re: kuduae]
      #316288 - 11/05/18 07:48 PM

Egr. Sig. Kuduae
un Grazie ed un Abbraccio di cuore e sincero. Alcune foto le ho, ma non oso smontare l'arma; dovrò rivolgermi ad un esperto; cosa che farò appena rientrerò nel luogo di residenza a fine mese. Chiedo a Tutti coloro che mi stanno sostenendo nella ricerca ( per me entusiasmante )di pazientare.
Un caloroso Grazie e Saluti di cuore.
Pietro
ps Grazie particolarmente a Lei, Sig.Igorrock


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: bopi]
      #316293 - 11/05/18 11:22 PM

"Egr. Mr. Kuduae
a thank you and an embrace of heart and sincere. I have some photos, but I dare not disassemble the weapon; I will have to contact an expert; which I will do as soon as I return to the place of residence at the end of the month. I ask all those who are supporting me in the search (exciting for me) to be patient.
A warm Thanks and Greetings from the heart.
Peter
ps Thanks particularly to you, Mr. Igorock"


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Re: Peterlongo [Re: Igorrock]
      #317449 - 23/06/18 12:25 AM

Per gli Amici che mi hanno seguito in questa " avventura ", ho aperto questa mattina un nuovo post intitolato " Peterlongo Atto II ".
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