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Bidyanus1
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2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions
#300988 - 30/05/17 09:46 AM

Ok Team Mauser
as Ive still got my mauser training wheels on, where can one purchase in Australia a new commercial mauser 98 action ? Is that possible?

AND does anyone make a commercial small ring Mauser and can they be purchased?

thanks in anticipation

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Bidyanus1]
#300989 - 30/05/17 10:56 AM

Got wads of cash eh?

I can only suggest Mayfair Engineering (UK) need wads lol.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: gryphon]
#301031 - 31/05/17 07:20 AM

There doesn't seem to be any agents or distributors for commercial Mauser actions here in Australia. Graeme Spragon used to bring in Reimer Johanson actions which were sold by Recknagel but that has stopped. GMA used to advertise here but had no distributor. I spoke to Mayfair engineering and they were more than happy to sell me an action if I organised all the import paperwork and shipping.

The most cost effective way would be for several people to buy some actions at the same time and therefore the paperwork and customs only has to be done once.
There are several importers who would be happy to do the importing.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301033 - 31/05/17 08:24 AM

Yes but there`s always a BUT and in my case the Mayfair Magnum action priced 3-4 years ago was obscene then.
I can see why the pre loved ones get built on.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: gryphon]
#301055 - 31/05/17 05:55 PM

When you say obscene I am not sure that I can agree there as manufacturing a Mauser action to original specs is a shit load of work. This is especially true if it is double square bridge as almost all of the action has to be milled. The same goes for the Mannlicher action and this is why neither have been manufactured in large numbers since decades. To be able to machine a complete Mauser action at current costs which you call unreasonable still requires machinery in excess of several million dollars and remember these are machined from billet, not forgings or castings. The many features of a Mauser/Mannlicher which we all love are what increase the price dramatically. DSB, third locking lug, C-ring, dovetailed claw extractor, Side mounted box ejector, full flange bolt shroud, large ring action, one piece magazine and floor plate, Oberndorf floorplate release, rotary magazine, separate bolt head with ejector and extractor etc. all add dramatically to the cost of manufacture.
This is why modern bolt actions don't have many or any of these features and are designed to be able to have as little milling as possible. A good example of that is the Remington 700 which is cheap to manufacture compared to a Mauser, however the fit and finish compared to something like a Mayfair action is shit in every way and it has none of the nice Mauser features.
I would argue that price is actually very reasonable, Mayfair quoted me about AUD$4200 a few years ago from memory and while I probably can't afford one either, that doesn't make it unreasonable. Unfortunately manufacturing small batches of reasonably complicated parts is not cheap.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301056 - 31/05/17 06:26 PM

Thats about right as I got $4500 'depending'

You are in the game Matt and know far more than I do and I can only go on an engineer mate that is a true wizard and his synopsis of the manufacture was totally different.

One thing that I would disagree with is this line below as you cant tell me that the originators had any such machinery.

"still requires machinery in excess of several million dollars"

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: gryphon]
#301059 - 31/05/17 07:33 PM

Gryph, you are right that the originators did not have any CNC machinery as such machines did not exist at the time. What they did have is their own machine tool design and development department and made the majority of machine tools in house. These machines were usually purpose built for one specific machining operation and they would have many machines of different types to finish something like an action. Hundreds if not thousands of machines including operators were employed in these factories to be able produce large quantities of finished guns. The outlay would have been staggering but they were also supported by governments around the world placing huge orders. And if it wasn't government contracts then it was large numbers of sportsman. It must be remembered though that a Mauser or Mannlicher rifle even in their heyday cost shitloads more than Winchester, Remington or Savage bolt action rifles. The prices charged then were probably similar to now allowing for inflation.

Not sure how your friends Synopsis is that much different to mine as I have seen how these actions are made and it is mainly milling. Their design doesn't allow for much turning at all. Even when they were produced a century ago they were mainly milled. All the bits like DSB, third locking lugs, large ring receiver and raised guide ribs mean that milling must be employed rather than turning. There are quite a few film clips on YouTube showing the machining methods used and there are plenty of old photos of the machine shops in the old factories. Whether old or new, they weren't cheap to make.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301062 - 31/05/17 08:04 PM

Isn't Mialls the agent for Mauser??

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Rule303]
#301066 - 31/05/17 09:35 PM

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Isn't Mialls the agent for Mauser??

Yep they are, I made an enquiry with one of their reps at the recent shot expo as to the availability and price of a double square bridge magnum Mauser action only but yet to hear a reply.

Cheers,
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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: CameronH]
#301067 - 31/05/17 10:13 PM

Another maker of new Standard and Magnum length double square bridge M98 Actions is Prechtl in Germany:
http://www.prechtl-waffen.de/home-cat225.html

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: kuduae]
#301069 - 31/05/17 10:33 PM

Gryph, here is an excample of the types of machines that Prechtl have in their workshop which they use to manufacture Mauser Actions.

http://www.prechtl-waffen.de/ber-uns-cat291.html

A quick translation:

3 Manual milling machines
6 CNC milling machines
2 Manual lathes
1 CNC lathe
1 Surface grinder
1 EDM Spark eroder (Another form of milling machine using electric current)
1 Engraving machine (More milling)

You can see the number of milling machines versus lathes, that why they cost heaps to make.

What we have been discussing above is mainly for Mauser actions, when you start talking Mannlicher Schoenauer type actions the degree of difficulty goes up several notches. Much of the internal action machining requires very specialised machines and/or tooling. They are very difficult to make.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301085 - 01/06/17 05:31 AM

I'm lead to believe there might be an importer for GMA actions on the Sunshine Coast in QLD.
My Gunsmith is currently building a 404 on a LH Express Magnum action. Customer said he bought the action from the Sunshine Coast.
He's also doing a 7-08 Rem on a GMA Short Magnum action for a different customer, complete with Smithson mounts.

I'll ask him who the supposed importer is next time I'm there.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: 450_Ackley]
#301087 - 01/06/17 06:23 AM

450, thanks that would be very helpful.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301089 - 01/06/17 07:07 AM

Matt I am about useless with anything metal except sending some down a tube and about all i can do is fabricate and weld and when I sent the Mayfair link to my cobber he really pooh poohed the price.
He has one of those "every fucking machine professional workshops" and uses it all including Mm`s he isn't a Fitter turner.

Hey all i`m going on was he the wizard simply said to me that the pricing wasn't proportionate to the work.

I know as above sfa re the manufacture.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: gryphon]
#301093 - 01/06/17 08:29 AM

You should add Georg Heinz's system 98 actions (www.fzh.gmbh.de) to your list of possible suppliers.
Dorleac has spoken positively of their actions. Also Ralph Martini has used their actions a fair bit. I am looking at Martin Hagn making me a rifle using one of their Magnum actions in takedown configuration.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: hawkhill]
#301107 - 01/06/17 04:59 PM

Err....thanks team

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Bidyanus1]
#301111 - 01/06/17 05:35 PM

Ok, found out who the Australian Distributor for GMA actions is.

Centrefire Australia.
www.centrefireaustralia.com.au

Robert O'Reilly
PO Box 3492,
Tannum Sands QLD 4680

Phone - (07) 49 733535

Same guys that produce the Diesel and Dust magazine apparently.
Website is not much help on the actions, but does show they have them, so maybe an email might be in order if interested.
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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: 450_Ackley]
#301114 - 01/06/17 06:59 PM

Granite Mountain Arms looks like they are still going.
they make a number of different length actions and also left hand models as well.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: sbs470]
#301118 - 01/06/17 08:12 PM

What about the Montana actions? I don't think they do a square bridge though..

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Ash]
#301146 - 02/06/17 07:05 AM

Ash, the Montana actions are based on a Winchester Model 70.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: 450_Ackley]
#301147 - 02/06/17 07:09 AM

450, thanks for that, I will give them a call today and get some prices and see what they are like to deal with. I will report back.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: kuduae]
#301148 - 02/06/17 07:13 AM

Kuduae, thanks as well. I have tried both Prechtel and FZH in the past and at the time they were only interested in minimum orders of three actions at a time. Things might be different now, I might try them again.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301167 - 02/06/17 02:47 PM

Satterlee arms makes intermediate, standard, and magnum length small ring actions in STEEL AND TITANIUM. The intermediate action is a clone of the small ring Mexican Mauser, but with square bridges. The standard length small ring is similar to BRNO M21, VZ33 and G33/40, but with square bridges. The magnum small ring is his own design, based on basic Mauser 98 design principles. His website has a lot of info, but is not up to date. Give him a call. He got severely back logged with orders several years ago, and pissed some folks off, but I believe he has smoothed out his operation. You may here folks talk crap about him, but I'd call and talk to him, voice any concerns you may have, and make your own decision. Satterlee actions come with the feed work for your designated cartridge already done to perfection. That's a huge plus!

http://satterleearms.com/375_length.htm

GMA makes a BRNO 21 type small ring action, but they don't advertise it on their website. Call them and ask about it.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#301168 - 02/06/17 03:18 PM

Thankyou

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Bidyanus1]
#301171 - 02/06/17 03:31 PM

Your welcome. Can you describe the custom rifle you would like to have built? It may be that a much less expensive and more common options can be found. Tell us what you are aiming for.
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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: 450_Ackley]
#301174 - 02/06/17 04:37 PM

I spoke to the people at Centrefire Australia today and they gave me a price range of between AUD$5800 and $6200 depending on the model. Prices vary according to the exchange rate and they don't keep any stock, therefore it is a six month wait from when you place an order.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301176 - 02/06/17 05:00 PM

Satterlee would be looking good to me especially as the have the cartridge feed and mag box done for your cartridge.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#301371 - 05/06/17 01:04 PM

Bidyanus1, (it's hard to believe there is a Bidyanus2), Zastava is the only one to still mass produce milled new Mauser actions available to the western world. A large ring Mauser is stronger and better suited to magnum cartridges.
You can find an FN Husqvarna for the price of the action alone and have a solid starting point for a classic rifle.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Wanabebwana]
#301377 - 05/06/17 03:24 PM

Mausers 98's made before WWII, and I believe perhaps even some made into the 50's and 60's were basically made of a soft Tool steel that had the surface carburizes and gardened a few thousandths of an inch deep. Even so, the better hardened pre war mausers, such as VZ-24's usually stand up to even magnum pressures pretty well. With our modern steels that are used to make barrels and actions, small ring mausers tolerate the highest pressure rounds with relative ease. Some might argue that when such steels do give way, they are brittle, and don't protect the shooter in the same way that Paul Mauser intended. This may be true, but it takes one incredible hell of an overload to reck a modern steel action anyway, large or small ring.

The allure of a small ring, for most folks, is the little bit of weight savings afforded by slightly slimmer stocks and barrels. Some folks don't care one way or the other, and some do. I say do what tickles you. I like the slightly thinner lines a small ring can net. Classic commercial sporters such as the post WWI Kar 98az action sporters, the Huskvarna model 46 (m96 swede action), BRNO 21, etc, all make for sexy, skinny, and often lightweight sporting rifles.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#301379 - 05/06/17 04:12 PM

I want to build a lightweight (hence the small ring) M98 20" barrel in 30'06.
I know in the past Ruger made one but they are few and far between
I know in reality its neither here nor there but I prefer the genuine control round feed of the M98 rather than the push feed, or those that say they are CRF but in fact are not eg Ruger, SAKO
Ive thought about the CZ but as far as I can see they are only in 308. Some may say if I hit something in the right place the 308 will do the job a 30:06 will do. I know that, but I dont want a 308. I want a lightweigh M 98 20" barrel in 30;06
yes I know it will be loud
I know the recoil will be heavy
I know it will cost lots of money
But Im told old to be carrying a a full length sporter in the bush all day

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Bidyanus1]
#301400 - 05/06/17 07:54 PM

As far as I am aware CZ made 270 and 30-06. These actions were a floor plate mag not the detachable mag of the 308 family. Now whether they were brought into Australia I do not know but presume they were as I remember the adds in one of the shooting mags.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Rule303]
#301423 - 06/06/17 05:10 AM

They were brought into Australia not that long ago. You could also get them in 9.3x62 as I remember having a look at one.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301429 - 06/06/17 05:33 AM

Bidyanus1 PM sent.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#301430 - 06/06/17 05:37 AM

With any luck you should be able to find a BRNO small ring model 21 or 22 action these are about the finest small ring 98 ever made. They are the commercial version of the VZ33 and G3340.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#301436 - 06/06/17 07:01 AM

Stick with the Original German Mauser 98 (or magnum length actions). Magnum actions are made by Precht for Mauser and barreled actions are used by UK Rigby.

I know Granite mountain arms actions have tight tolerances which defeats one of the main attributes of the '98 design: Slop to reduce binding by contaminates. I also understand the US market doesn't understand this and requires tight tolerances.

There was a new complete .416 Rigby Mauser magnum for sale in Brisbane about ten years ago for A$14K.

Try Myalls again. A gun show with lots of 'dreamers' is not the place to get serious. You may have to go in with a deposit. A barreled action maybe easier than an action to import.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#301442 - 06/06/17 09:59 AM

I want to build a light weight, 20" barrel M 98 in 30:06. That's why Im looking for the small ring. Ruger made a lightweight a while ago but dont make them anymore and they are few and far between secondhand. Also the ruger, despite the claims is push feed. I just love the Control Round Feed of the Mauser. CZ make a 20" carbine but as best as I can see in Australia you can only get the 308. I dont want a 308, I want a 30:06.
Why lightweight? Because Im too old to be carrying a full weight sporting through the bush all day.
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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Bidyanus1]
#301443 - 06/06/17 10:02 AM

Oh and thanks again for all the feedback
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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#301455 - 06/06/17 05:05 PM

Gryphon
Ive replied to your PM

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Bidyanus1]
#301459 - 06/06/17 07:54 PM

A repeat post. Please disregard, night shifts and lack of snooze time can do that to me.

Edited by Rule303 (08/06/17 12:39 PM)

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Rule303]
#301465 - 07/06/17 01:41 AM

I have a BRNO 22H in 7X64. The action will easily accommodate a .30-'06 length cartridge. I don't know how common such rifles are in OZ, but I would think that a complete rifle would sell for less than most of the custom actions mentioned in this thread. The only thing that needs alteration with the action is the bolt handle, which despite its appearance, will not allow for a low mounted scope.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: xausa]
#301472 - 07/06/17 05:13 AM

Xausa is right,
though I must add that low scope mounting depends on the type of bolt handle.

There are M21 BRNO´s with the same bolt handle type as known from the ZG47.

And there is a lot of room for mounting a scope very low without any alteration

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: justcurious]
#301505 - 07/06/17 10:02 PM

What I have done 20 years ago:
M21 action (modified bolthandle-was of Mannlicher Type before- Bottom Metal Argentine 09 ),
.30-06, slim contoured barrel,
Original sope mount(allsteel).
To my view you should go for a BRNO M21 and save a lot of money against a new made action.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: justcurious]
#301517 - 08/06/17 01:19 AM

Justcurious,

What a gorgeous little rifle! Everything is perfect.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: redoak]
#301540 - 08/06/17 01:17 PM

That is spectacular. I love open grips.

Was the depth of the magazine box reduced? If so, I like it! Tastefully done.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#301604 - 10/06/17 10:49 AM

Also have a look for a Parker hale or BSA rifle. These used Mauser type actions from1950s through to the 1980s. Can be a little rough at first but soon smooth up. Friend has a couple from early 1970s, I have a Rigby of similar vintage and save for the name and styling of the stock they are the same rifle.

Old BRNOs also worth a look.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: HeymSR20]
#301605 - 10/06/17 11:53 AM

Yes, Justcurious, that is a wonderful rifle.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Grenadier]
#347056 - 23/11/20 05:36 AM

Well, did the short, small ring Mauser in ‘06 ever get built? If so, let’s see and hear about it!

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: xausa]
#347078 - 24/11/20 02:25 AM

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I have a BRNO 22H in 7X64. The action will easily accommodate a .30-'06 length cartridge. I don't know how common such rifles are in OZ, but I would think that a complete rifle would sell for less than most of the custom actions mentioned in this thread. The only thing that needs alteration with the action is the bolt handle, which despite its appearance, will not allow for a low mounted scope.

Another excellent rifle. All of the rifles you've shown us from your collection have the same things in common: a quality piece, in excellent condition, and a good, solid working rifle, devoid of excessive decoration. Very impressive.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: vykkagur]
#347079 - 24/11/20 02:27 AM

And I can't believe I've just gotten to the bottom of this entire thread before I realized that it's over three years old. Sorry!

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: vykkagur]
#347258 - 28/11/20 10:56 AM

I read that H and H made some Magnum 98 actions [that is cutting a standard length 98 action, and lengthening it ] also someone in the U.S made a about half a dozen that way .
There is info on shortening actions ,but not much to be found on lengthening them ,you would need a competent gunsmith, and one who is willing to do it ,who knows what he's doing e.g welding ,heat treatment etc .If I could find someone ,its something I would like to get done ,rather than paying the 5k and up prices for a Brand New action .
Would need ideally two actions made by the same manufacturer and in excellent condition ,and or two recent production actions .

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: Bidyanus1]
#347268 - 28/11/20 12:14 PM

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I want to build a lightweight (hence the small ring) M98 20" barrel in 30'06.

...I know in reality its neither here nor there but I prefer the genuine control round feed of the M98 rather than the push feed, or those that say they are CRF but in fact are not eg Ruger, SAKO

.. I dont want a 308. I want a lightweigh M 98 20" barrel in 30;06
yes I know it will be loud

... Im told old to be carrying a a full length sporter in the bush all day

Too bad it's not 1939.

From 1939 Stoeger Catalog:

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: vykkagur]
#347269 - 28/11/20 02:49 PM

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And I can't believe I've just gotten to the bottom of this entire thread before I realized that it's over three years old. Sorry!

Thanks for adding to this thread, and no need to apologize for doing so. A post may get old, but most of the time they don’t become completely irrelevant or dead. As far as I’m concerned this thread won’t be complete until the OP posts picks of the rifles he was intending to build, and even then there would be plenty of room to comment.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#347274 - 29/11/20 02:30 AM

On a forum loaded with so much excellent content over a number of years, I find I have to be constantly mindful of this. As a fairly new member, I'm forever using the search page to dig up more information on subjects of interest. So many times, I turn up great threads on which I'm dying to comment, only to find they're a decade old and half the posters haven't been heard from in years. And on occasion, like now, the date slips by me.

Which brings me to something that I've been overdue in acknowledging: We all owe a terrific debt of gratitude to our intrepid host, whose hard work hereon has made this excellent forum available for our mutual enjoyment, literally, for years. Without John, it wouldn't happen. For every hour we spend browsing the specific boards that interest us as individuals, I'm sure he must spend five patrolling the forum as a whole, keeping everything on track and maintaining the by and large civil and friendly tone that marks this forum, in contrast to some others. From this, we all benefit by great conversation and the steady exchange of useful and fascinating information about our hobby. This makes it my hands-down favourite, at the top of my list of bookmarks.

Well done, that man!

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: vykkagur]
#347276 - 29/11/20 03:04 AM

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On a forum loaded with so much excellent content over a number of years, I find I have to be constantly mindful of this. As a fairly new member, I'm forever using the search page to dig up more information on subjects of interest. So many times, I turn up great threads on which I'm dying to comment, only to find they're a decade old and half the posters haven't been heard from in years. And on occasion, like now, the date slips by me.

Thanks for the kind words.

And feel free to re-open any old threads. We keep them for that reason.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: vykkagur]
#347303 - 29/11/20 06:49 PM

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Which brings me to something that I've been overdue in acknowledging: We all owe a terrific debt of gratitude to our intrepid host, whose hard work hereon has made this excellent forum available for our mutual enjoyment, literally, for years. Without John, it wouldn't happen. For every hour we spend browsing the specific boards that interest us as individuals, I'm sure he must spend five patrolling the forum as a whole, keeping everything on track and maintaining the by and large civil and friendly tone that marks this forum, in contrast to some others. From this, we all benefit by great conversation and the steady exchange of useful and fascinating information about our hobby. This makes it my hands-down favourite, at the top of my list of bookmarks.

Well done, that man!

Actually a great way members can show appreciation is to our number of great regular posters and thread starters is to PARTICIPATE and POST REPLIES on their threads. Many people enjoy them in silence, but replying shows APPRECIATION for the posts. We have a small number of regular great posters. I could name them, but probably forget to mention some, and we know who they all are. Just had a look at thread with about five posts without a single intervening reply. A thread with many pages over time. I enjoy always at looking at the posts. What a great effort by this and other members.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: NitroX]
#347331 - 30/11/20 04:31 AM

Indeed, John.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: DarylS]
#347350 - 30/11/20 04:15 PM

Very well put, John. A post without replies, withers on the vine. The discussion that follows is where the majority of the knowledge is imparted, and that's why we're here. Without discussions, the forum would soon die. Thanks to a group of prolific posters on here, I've learned a incredible amount in the last year, for which I'm hugely grateful.

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Re: 2 dumb questions re new Mauser 98 actions [Re: ColoradoMatt1]
#347415 - 01/12/20 10:32 AM

In the long run it will probably be just as expensive, with a lot less wait and angst, to buy a Rigby rifle outright. EDIT. Try QGE in Brisvegas.

Edited by tophet1 (01/12/20 10:42 AM)

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