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William Evans .318 Westly Richards
#290465 - 18/11/16 07:40 AM

Found a nice mauser sporter!
William Evans 318 Westly Richards, pictures dont do it justice. Tip off scope mounts, 4x leupold.
25 26 " barrel. Shoots well with 2209 and 250 .330 woodleigh RNSP. Cases made from 30/06 and trimmed to 60.1mm.
Rounds feed and cycle well from the mag.
Heres the pics cheers Mick.

30-06 case comparison , 318 and 250 woodleigh RNSP

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#290466 - 18/11/16 08:01 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Donuts!

The only down side, is the rings holding to old Leupold Alaskan on, are a bit High!

Avagreatweekendeh!
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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: Homer]
#290467 - 18/11/16 08:09 AM

Lovely rifle in a lovely caliber. Even though I have a .333Jeffery the .318Westley Richards still holds an appeal to me. Maybe one day a .318WR will find it´s way to me.

Thanks for sharing.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: Homer]
#290469 - 18/11/16 08:24 AM

Yeah, too high for a decent cheek weld . Planning on shooting it with open sights. It shoots well with the scope.
Open sights are nice and marked for 150 and 300 yards.
It will get a decent run next dry, on a trip for buff.
Cheers Mick

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#290490 - 18/11/16 05:44 PM

Hi 264,

I have an original westley richards 318 unfortunatley someone shortened the barrel to 22inches but otherwise its a stunning rifle.

how do you form the 3006 cases, and what is your COL on loaded rounds

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: RobertM]
#290491 - 18/11/16 07:19 PM

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Hi 264,

I have an original westley richards 318 unfortunatley someone shortened the barrel to 22inches but otherwise its a stunning rifle.

how do you form the 3006 cases, and what is your COL on loaded rounds

One pass thru the die with plenty of lube and trim cases to 60.1mm. Fireform / shoot. Cheers Mick

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#290493 - 18/11/16 07:55 PM

Mick:
What a marvellous thing!
Great to see Evans also appreciated the value of a long barrel for this chambering.
The 'modern' scope and mounts don't detract IMHO, eye relief with the fixed-power Leupold is far better than any 'period' telescope!
I am grappling with the business of assembling something similar for a Rigby .275 (original scope and rings are lost) and your pic showing the little angle cut forward of the front claw has helped.
Hope to see it in the flesh one day!
Cheers mate

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#290494 - 18/11/16 07:58 PM

Thanks Mick.

whats your total cartridge overall length (COL/OAL) I am loading to 86.5mm which gives good grouping, but cannot find any info on what it should be (if I test it using an unprimed case and closing the bolt I get a chamber overall size of 91mm

regards
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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: RobertM]
#290496 - 18/11/16 08:17 PM

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Thanks Mick.

whats your total cartridge overall length (COL/OAL) I am loading to 86.5mm which gives good grouping, but cannot find any info on what it should be (if I test it using an unprimed case and closing the bolt I get a chamber overall size of 91mm

regards
Robert

Robert, the info I found gave a case length of 60.1mm and a o/l of 85.1mm.
Im loading to 83mm which has the case finish on the canelure.
Mine shoots the 250 woodleighs very well sighted with the scope today.
The iron sights are very good to use but the bullets are approximatly 12" high at 100m, with very good groups. might require some smithing. Cheers Mick

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#290497 - 18/11/16 09:25 PM

Hi Mick,

Thanks 85.1 looks about right. I only have iron sights and they have been set to correctly to
100m. on the bullet side I shoot a 250gr claw bullet which is nearly identical to the woodleighs but about a quarter of the price of woodleighs in South africa the only difference is they dont have the crimping groove.

hopefully i will get to hunt with her next season.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: RobertM]
#290509 - 19/11/16 06:54 AM

Very nice rifle Mick, should be a joy to use. As it has a reasonably long barrel, is it slightly nose heavy or did they still manage to balance it well. Again, very nice.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#290513 - 19/11/16 07:55 AM

Nice piece of kit there 264!
I don't know how old your little lady is but boy she can still turn a few heads!
You should be able to calculate what the new front sight height will be required easily enough, but will need the sighting radius to do so
Pasted from another site.
The formula used in the Skinner Front sight calculator can used for various ranges and is depicted as follows in the Lyman Reloader Manual (Appendix B):

M= (D/R) x S

M= Movement in inches needed to correctly zero your sights

D= impact deviation in inches (how far off from the aim point to the point that the bullet is hitting)
R = range in inches
S= sight radius (distance between sights)

Example: firearm is hitting 6 " low at 50 yards

D= 6" R= 50 x36 =1800 inches (for 100yds it would be 100x36 = 3600")
S=20"

M=6/1800 x 20 = .067"

0.67 " of sight adjustment is needed to zero the firearm.

All the best with your little lady.
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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 93x64mm]
#290516 - 19/11/16 08:18 AM

Waidmannsheil. - Balance is very good comes to the shoulder well and easy to carry. Nice to shoot with mild recoil. Going to get some 250 woodleigh solids. Should make a handy NT rifle.

93x64- thanks for the skinner formula.

Cheers Mick

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#290522 - 19/11/16 11:09 AM

Beautiful rifle! Do remember to post hunting and trophy pics when you take her out. Good hunting, and congratulations!

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: mehulkamdar]
#290546 - 20/11/16 04:50 AM

Very nice! I love that long barrel.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: cordite]
#290554 - 20/11/16 08:36 AM

Oh boy - what a find? Lovely indeed.

Long barrels are - well, as close to perfect as possible.

My 2 favourite non muzzle loading rifles have 26" barrels.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 93x64mm]
#290787 - 25/11/16 12:50 AM

Quote:

The formula used in the Skinner Front sight calculator can used for various ranges and is depicted as follows in the Lyman Reloader Manual (Appendix B):

M= (D/R) x S

M= Movement in inches needed to correctly zero your sights

D= impact deviation in inches (how far off from the aim point to the point that the bullet is hitting)
R = range in inches
S= sight radius (distance between sights)

Example: firearm is hitting 6 " low at 50 yards

D= 6" R= 50 x36 =1800 inches (for 100yds it would be 100x36 = 3600")
S=20"

M=6/1800 x 20 = .067"

0.67 " of sight adjustment is needed to zero the firearm.

I know that is just a hypothetical examle, but two-thirds of an inch wuld be a sizable adjustment to an iron sight! Then realised there is a decimal point error in the comment, it is 0.067 inches, higher. Very workable.

I wonder how Mick's adjustment would far with his numbers and a similar sight distance?

12"/(100m x 1.1 x 36")x say 20" = 0.0606" lower.

Very nice looking rifle. Which no doubt will get lots of work in the bush with you. Congratulations.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#295021 - 10/02/17 08:47 AM

Bored with wet season monsoonal weather so contacted William Evans RE details of My 318.
Reply was a surprise with a build date of 1920. Not a lot more available as there buildings were bombed during world war 2 and records lost.
Still nice to know, nearly 100 years old shows they knew how to make a fine firearm.
Unfortunately I like there sidelock shotguns so on the search for one of them. Cheers Mick

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#295022 - 10/02/17 09:30 AM

Interesting information, and certainly still very nice for its age. Somehow makes it extra special using a rifle that age particularly if it still functions well and is accurate.

The sidelock shotgun should be cheap and easy to find.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: Waidmannsheil]
#295035 - 10/02/17 04:13 PM

Beautiful rifle Mick!

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: Rockdoc]
#295142 - 12/02/17 10:15 AM

Very nice. Wish I could find something like that.

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Re: William Evans .318 Westly Richards [Re: 264]
#295722 - 23/02/17 03:06 PM

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Bored with wet season monsoonal weather so contacted William Evans......(snip).....
Unfortunately I like there sidelock shotguns so on the search for one of them. Cheers Mick

Well here you go!
http://www.mwreynolds.com/HTML/shotWilliamEvans3591.html

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