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Kettner interwar catalog african model
      #367220 - 27/06/22 02:24 PM

a Franz Kettner cataloge page showing the tropen or africa model and I am sure this was not the original mauser but something that Kettner produce in the own factory in Suhl



also showing a special safety for rifles with scope

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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: lancaster]
      #367226 - 27/06/22 06:56 PM

I always am reminded of Harald Wolf's Jungle Rifle project by these Africa and Tropical models.

A question is why the full wood rifle was considered better for hot and tropical environments?

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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: NitroX]
      #367227 - 27/06/22 06:59 PM

What cartridges were they chambered for?

What was the date of the catalogue? Pre WW1?

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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: NitroX]
      #367229 - 27/06/22 07:58 PM

Thank you for sharing this historical document, Lancaster.
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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: Louis]
      #367230 - 27/06/22 09:13 PM

The old wing safety - parallel development in the US & Germany.
Lovely piece of kit
What would the thinking be around the longer stock fore end, possible shooting over logs, trees etc so that the barrel doesn't touch?


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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: NitroX]
      #367236 - 28/06/22 12:36 AM

Quote:

What cartridges were they chambered for?

What was the date of the catalogue? Pre WW1?




you have to read - its all in the headline. usual opinion about the africa model is that it was a long barrel rifle only because of the sight line before 1914 when scopes where not possible or to delicate for a safari.
this had some after effects into the 1930s, maybe because the rifles looking so nice or people where still believing they need the long barrels because it was so 20 years ago.
anyway, this concept was gone after the second war and I think it was outdated in the 1920s.
this impressive pattern of the mauser factory was copied in france

the original african model (70 cm barrel )




the french Rival mauser (72 cm barrel)









and as we see here also by Suhl gunmaker like Kettner. the cartridges were probably the usual suspects, 10,75x68, 9,3x62, 8x64, 7x64, I only have this page

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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: lancaster]
      #367245 - 28/06/22 11:14 AM

There must have been a mini industry in Suhl with various gunmakers turning surplu 98 actions into "African" models to survive during the interwar years. Ozgunsales recently had a Stogos (Stoltz & Goessl) version (complete with bayonet lug)

https://www.ozgunsales.com/photos/cdfc40cd2011477db9396f8f833460d4_1652864736.jpg


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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #367246 - 28/06/22 02:51 PM

the link don't show the rifle anymore, do you have the pics? would be right here in the mauser archive.
the 1920s were bad years especially for gunmaker so they made you what ever you want.

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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: lancaster]
      #367247 - 28/06/22 03:45 PM

For some reason, today I can't paste photos into the forum. However I did find a Nitro Express post on the same rifle from several years earlier
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat....true#Post211760


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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: Hunter4752001]
      #367248 - 28/06/22 03:56 PM

thats interesting and no wonder it was forgotten after 10 years

























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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: lancaster]
      #367251 - 28/06/22 09:38 PM

Unusual in .303.

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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: NitroX]
      #367509 - 05/07/22 07:24 PM

another "african model" by August Schüler /Suhl in 7x64





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Re: Kettner interwar catalog african model [Re: lancaster]
      #367514 - 06/07/22 06:07 AM

Lancaster thanks for posting. They are good looking rifles.

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