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deepwoods
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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Dave93]
      #226379 - 04/03/13 09:26 AM

Very nice rifle 458Win. Do you plan on shooting the rifle?

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: deepwoods]
      #226400 - 04/03/13 04:28 PM

I would like to use it on a bear hunt or two. The 404 is a fantastic round.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: 458Win]
      #226413 - 04/03/13 08:32 PM

458Win that is a rifle anybody should be proud to own and in a great cartridge. So would that Rigby you have pictured.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Rule303]
      #226426 - 05/03/13 08:03 AM

Good to here your going to use it. I picked up a 9.3x62 type A I hope to use on a moose Hunt (if I get picked for the moose lottery here).

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: deepwoods]
      #226428 - 05/03/13 08:14 AM

My 404 went moose hunting with me last year. No luck. Going again this year and will also have a chance at a grizzly.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: casper50]
      #226430 - 05/03/13 08:39 AM

if not an early oberndorf action,,it certainly looks like an oberndorf bolt handle ....paqul

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: pjaln]
      #226567 - 08/03/13 03:00 AM

I just received more information on the rifle's history from the guy I bought it from. It was purchased in the early 1900's specifically for an Alaskan brown bear hunt and was still in use by the family for elk hunting a couple years ago. So I guess my continuing to use it for that purpose should be just fine.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: 458Win]
      #226768 - 11/03/13 05:41 AM

Just received an old poem from Lon Paul credited to Podraza that I thought would be a nice addition


It rested between the Ivory
That hung on Grandpa's wall
It's finally checked and yellowed
Like the tusks it helped to fall

It's barrel smooth and polished
From a hundred bearers hands
It reflected the light warmly
Like campfires flickering brands

The stock of English walnut
Chewed and clawed a bit
It still showed a trace of checkering
an a dent where a horn had hit

Stamped on the barrel lightly
Was a name and not much more
A single word "Jeffery"
"Jeffery .404"

If that rifle could only talk
And take us back once again
With grandpa in Africa
A time of Buffalo,Elephants and men

But that day has set it's sun
And the rifle speaks no more
Oh what I'd give for one last time
To hear it's mighty roar

Grandpa's "Jeffery"
His "Jeffery .404"

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Dave93]
      #226780 - 11/03/13 08:04 AM

Great rifle and the lack of weight makes it interesting/attractive.

Unless your using stripper clips (my son does), the guides are useless and I'm planning on having them removed on my next (still collecting parts) custom rifle build. The weight saving would be minimal but for a quick top up when using just express sights I'd welcome the extra opening.

There seem to be a lot of opened up Mauser actions that 'when done correctly' are perfectly safe and feed correctly. Having grown sceptical of most gun and hunting myths, I wonder if a lot of nay-sayers are either lazy gunsmiths or sellers of magnum length actions. Maybe I'm just getting old.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: tophet1]
      #226782 - 11/03/13 08:29 AM

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Great rifle and the lack of weight makes it interesting/attractive.

Unless your using stripper clips (my son does), the guides are useless and I'm planning on having them removed on my next (still collecting parts) custom rifle build. The weight saving would be minimal but for a quick top up when using just express sights I'd welcome the extra opening.

There seem to be a lot of opened up Mauser actions that 'when done correctly' are perfectly safe and feed correctly. Having grown sceptical of most gun and hunting myths, I wonder if a lot of nay-sayers are either lazy gunsmiths or sellers of magnum length actions. Maybe I'm just getting old.






I concur totally, especially with the last paragraph. For sure I am getting "old"...:):):)

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: 458Win]
      #226842 - 12/03/13 02:22 AM

Quote:

I just received more information on the rifle's history from the guy I bought it from. It was purchased in the early 1900's specifically for an Alaskan brown bear hunt and was still in use by the family for elk hunting a couple years ago. So I guess my continuing to use it for that purpose should be just fine.



THAT is way cool! A Jeffery for America! Way, way cool!

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: A10ACN]
      #226892 - 12/03/13 01:28 PM

Here is another closeup of how Jeffery inletted a steel place into the front of the wood magazine box to protect the wood.



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Edited by CptCurl (07/06/13 10:14 PM)

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: A10ACN]
      #226893 - 12/03/13 01:30 PM

Phil

Very nice historical .404 and still being used for what it was originally purchased for is great.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: NitroX]
      #228391 - 09/04/13 12:33 PM

Received an e-mail from Jeffery and this rifle, with it's 24" bbl, was completed Jan 1907 and from their descriptions it is still comletely original.
Other than the oily rag and loaded round of Kynoch ammo in the butt trap.



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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: 458Win]
      #228393 - 09/04/13 12:55 PM

Hey Phil,
With no spring season this year, what will be its first trip to the Bush ???

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458Win
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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Caprivi]
      #228395 - 09/04/13 01:01 PM

I have been picking up supplies and am finishing up aircraft annuals this week. Hope to take either the Jeffery or Lee Speed out after black bears later this month, then out to camp till Nov

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: 458Win]
      #229113 - 21/04/13 10:56 AM

.458WIN,
Thank you for sharing the poem, it says it all- a truly fantastic cartridge.

Kindest regards...

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: CWJ1898]
      #229144 - 21/04/13 11:33 PM

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.458WIN,
Thank you for sharing the poem, it says it all- a truly fantastic cartridge.

Kindest regards...



Agree totally /..and a great gun--thank you

Ripp

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Ripp]
      #229655 - 03/05/13 10:41 AM

While I intend to carry the Jeffery some this season, I also plan on carrying one of Ruger's 416 African rifles as well.
It is amazing just how similiar they are in weight, balance and power.





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Edited by CptCurl (07/06/13 10:15 PM)

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Dave93]
      #231424 - 21/06/13 02:35 PM

I recently purchased the Jeffery 404 in this photo and noticed it was very similar to the one in this post. Proof marks are identical but only has W J Jeffery engraved on the barrel and action. No address. Mine looks to be made as a plain working rifle. The stock timber looks plainer than the one in the post. The interesting thing was the serial number on mine is 16706 which looks to be the one after the one in the post.



Edited by CptCurl (30/12/13 03:24 AM)

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Claydog]
      #231426 - 21/06/13 04:32 PM

Nice photo Claydog, the 404 doing just what 404s do so well.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Claydog]
      #231427 - 21/06/13 04:58 PM

Quote:

I recently purchased the Jeffery 404 in this photo and noticed it was very similar to the one in this post. Proof marks are identical but only has W J Jeffery engraved on the barrel and action. No address. Mine looks to be made as a plain working rifle. The stock timber looks plainer than the one in the post. The interesting thing was the serial number on mine is 16706 which looks to be the one after the one in the post.




What are the odds eh ? Sequential rifles in opposite ends of the Commonwealth.

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Re: 1905 Jeffery 404 [Re: Dave93]
      #320085 - 26/09/18 12:10 PM

I have been searching for this thread for a couple of days. Been looking at some photos of a friend's .333 because Jeffery cut the magazine front out of it to accommodate the long round. I remembered this thread of the magazine box cut away and wanted to find it again. Did they use the military follower or is it a wider one? Same with the floor-plate? From the looks of the photos the magazine mortise may not be inletted as wide as would be to accommodate the magazine box if it were complete. Certainly an interesting rifle and grand specimen of a classic builder.

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