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.458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike
      #287223 - 01/09/16 12:58 AM

I owe to the true to admit that we were somewhat skeptical when Mike asked us if we agreed to build a big game rifle using a 1958 proofed Mannlicher-Schöenauer Mod.1956 cal. 458 WM as a foundation.
The challenge was to do the rifle in DORLEAC fashion with the following requirements:
wide field of view removable classic scope, express sights and some sort of ghost ring for quick shoot.
We selected a S&B 1,25-4x24 scope with prismatic rail under main tube and mounted it on special made claw mounts.
For us it appears that it's the best way to scope the split bridge Schöenauer action when you want an easy detachable mount with perfect zero return.
In order to adapt our stock pattern we machined a new solid trigger guard and fitted a newly made adjustable trigger that goes slightly further to the rear allowing a more confortable grip.
On the bolt we have inletted a small buffalo horn tip dovetailed in the spoon handle. We have seen that conversion done on pre WW1 Westley-Richards M-S and we believe that it was done for an easier operation of the bolt without being hurt by the edges of the spoon.
We have completed the fitting with a period Parker-Hale folding peep sight brazed on the bolt shroud. It has been made so it can be used as a ghost ring without interference in handling with the low mounted scope and it benefits of the option of two apertures, a wide ghost and a more accurate one.
The last problem was with the stock and the walnut blank.
The Mannlicher stock is heavily relieved and as the rifle will be stocked DORLEAC style it will get some form of slim stock.
Indeed the action is bedded but our experience with such heavy recoiling rifles that will be used in Africa is to select a walnut blank with good grain flow.
We have preferred to use well-seasoned French walnut (Juglans Regia) even if it doesn't display as much figures than Turkish woods.
Here is the near completed rifle in the white.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #287224 - 01/09/16 01:49 AM

That is truly one super beautiful rifle!

I think the change to the bolt spoon handle was also excellent. I like the look of the Mannlicher spoon handles but do not actually like using them. And on a DGR I think they are far from ideal if needed for quick use. Well done on the alteration.

The new trigger guard also looks perfect.

And the stock is the usual Dorleac excellent modern classic design.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #287265 - 01/09/16 10:53 PM

That is beautiful work. The rifle is so graceful it doesn't look like it could possibly be a .458!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #287268 - 01/09/16 11:28 PM

The stock work is indeed impeccable, but since the left side of the receiver is evidently machined to accept a side mount base, might I point out that a Griffin & Howe mount allows the scope to be mounted as low as the bolt handle will permit and leaves no clutter on the receiver or barrel to interfere with iron sights once the scope is removed.




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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: xausa]
      #287275 - 02/09/16 12:43 AM

Amazingly good ,love the metal work on it too

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: NitroX]
      #287284 - 02/09/16 07:24 AM

Quote:

That is truly one super beautiful rifle!

I think the change to the bolt spoon handle was also excellent. I like the look of the Mannlicher spoon handles but do not actually like using them. And on a DGR I think they are far from ideal if needed for quick use. Well done on the alteration.

The new trigger guard also looks perfect.

And the stock is the usual Dorleac excellent modern classic design.


ditto!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: 500Boswell]
      #287286 - 02/09/16 07:55 AM

Absolutely superb, beautiful lines and as was stated above, so graceful it couldn't possibly be a 458. It is great to see you doing something other than Mauser's and being a fan of Mannlicher's this one doesn't get any better. The stock is perfect and the bolt handle very clever.

Did you use the original barrel or is it a new one ?
Is the rifle getting any engraving ?

As always thanks for posting such great photos.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #287289 - 02/09/16 09:46 AM

Wow, just wow!

It always takes my breath away when I see a photo of a stock emerging from a blank of wood. Especially where the metalwork is inletted into the stock like that.

Oh to have such talent...

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Rockdoc]
      #287290 - 02/09/16 09:57 AM

Utterly perfect!

I never seem to tire of seeing custom Mannlichers. The Dorleac stock shape is beautiful IMO!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: GG375]
      #287293 - 02/09/16 11:28 AM

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Utterly perfect!

I never seem to tire of seeing custom Mannlichers. The Dorleac stock shape is beautiful IMO!

GG



Unfortunately you don't see very many as most people seem to consider it sacrilege to turn a factory Mannlicher into a custom sporting rifle, and yet they are a superb platform for a custom gun.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #287318 - 03/09/16 10:59 AM

What a beautiful rifle makes me want to throw mine in the river.....what is the finish nickel or a hard chrome? If I were to add anything and its something i allways wanted is a cartage trap.I hate to ask but what does something like that cost?

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: ducmarc]
      #287358 - 04/09/16 03:32 AM

Now is "Mike" one of our members at NE? Seeing Joel named the rifle as "working for Mike"?

If so or anyway "Mike" has an absolutely beautiful new Mannlicher-Schoenauer rifle.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: NitroX]
      #287531 - 07/09/16 06:07 PM

That's me best, Mike

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #287532 - 07/09/16 06:14 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Utterly perfect!

I never seem to tire of seeing custom Mannlichers. The Dorleac stock shape is beautiful IMO!

GG



Unfortunately you don't see very many as most people seem to consider it sacrilege to turn a factory Mannlicher into a custom sporting rifle, and yet they are a superb platform for a custom gun.

Waidmannsheil.



The Poms weren't afraid to customise them in the early days but as you say, not many are done nowadays. I had a semi custom M1950 in 9.3x62 made here in Australia but don't know of any others.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: GG375]
      #287656 - 11/09/16 03:48 AM

Bravo! Superb!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #287666 - 11/09/16 06:46 AM

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That's me best, Mike



You will soon have a "new" superb and beautiful rifle. Congratulations.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: NitroX]
      #287776 - 13/09/16 09:32 AM

Wow, Joel! That has to be the most exquisite Mannlicher that I have ever seen! But then, when you lavished your attention on it, it would have to be that! Absolutely gorgeous!

Congratulations, Mike! Your taste in fine firearms is laudable, of course, and you have chosen the right artisan to build this treasure! Has to come out of a fine aesthetic instinct! Well done, once again, sir!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #287814 - 13/09/16 11:21 PM

Excellent work , Dorleac. Can not use a better platform than a .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer (Win Mag) since some of the greatest elephant hunters used the .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles . Richard Harland used one to cull thousands of elephants in the Rhodesian corridors ...Terry Irwin used one in Tanzania, Selous Game park and Barry Dugworth use several .458 MS to hunt dangerous game. Their rationale being that this is the only dangerous game rifle that do not have a bottom metal that open up when firing under stressful hunting/culling circumstances.

As pointed out by a Mannlicher Shoenauer collector , the .458 Mannlicher Schoenauer with this stock from the 1958 era is an American version and can be altered as one wants since it is not really a original deigned Mannlicher stock...Mike , you did well to make this choice..excellent rifle enjoy it , it shoots extremely accurate for a big bore rifle...

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: GPJ12345]
      #287825 - 14/09/16 06:54 AM




Just beautiful. A level of insight and craftsmanship that one doesn't really expect to see in this day and age.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: lonewulf]
      #302984 - 12/07/17 04:40 PM

Mike, .458WM Mannlicher-Schöenauer is now fully completed.
Making that big game rifle has been quite a challenge as I owe to the true to recognize that the basic quality of the 1956 donor Schöenauer wasn't up the craftsmanship level we usually found on prewar production.
We have done the best to create a clean, well-balanced, rifle and we hope its owner will like and use it with confidence.
As stated earlier the sighting equipment relies on a S&B 1,25-4x24 scope fitted on special hand made quick detachable low claw mounts while the metallic sighting line combine a front 1/10" gold bead, three leaves express rear sight and a modified P-H bolt peep sight with removable aperture converting it to ghost ring.
Indeed all the barrel fitting is band soldered while the front swivel base is silver brazed.
The French walnut stock is DORLEAC slim style and some stubble touches of engraving, gold inlays and color case hardening complete the finish.
Please feel free to comment.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #302986 - 12/07/17 05:42 PM

That is very very beautiful, congratulations on a fantastic job. I would feel honoured to own such a fantastic piece!
Sadly I will never have the funds but do love to dream

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Viking338]
      #302989 - 12/07/17 08:44 PM

Bloody Hell Joel, it just doesn't get any better than this. Absolutely stunning, perfect in every way. I think Mike is going to pass out when he actually holds it in his hands. Super well done and thanks for sharing.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #302990 - 12/07/17 09:57 PM

WOW, I didn't know A Schoenaur could look so good !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice.
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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #302992 - 12/07/17 11:09 PM

Magnificent work! Your photography is outstanding as well!

It appears that the gold-inlaid serial numbers on the trigger guard are shadowed. I don't think I have seen that done before.

Again, magnificent work!

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      #302993 - 12/07/17 11:15 PM

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It appears that the gold-inlaid serial numbers on the trigger guard are shadowed. I don't think I have seen that done before.



Yes the serial number is hand engraved, gold inlaid and shadowed.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #302995 - 13/07/17 01:27 AM

Joel - your work on this rifle and so many others is perfect, bloody inspiring and OMG, Beautiful!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #302997 - 13/07/17 01:31 AM

M. Dorleac,
Your checkering is impressive. Not many gunmakers would be happy to have high-resolution photographs made of their checkering borders. I know how hard it is to accomplish what you have done. Its the little details that separate the excellent from the exceptional!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #302998 - 13/07/17 01:34 AM

I wish you would take on a project using a 1903 Springfield, or a Winchester Model 70, or maybe a 1917 Enfield action. It would be interesting to see what you could accomplish with these actions.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #303003 - 13/07/17 02:17 AM

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I wish you would take on a project using a 1903 Springfield, or a Winchester Model 70, or maybe a 1917 Enfield action. It would be interesting to see what you could accomplish with these actions.



Carpetsahib, perhaps will you like this tribute to the rifleman rifle ?
A .264WM upgraded in D&D guise...more on it latter.
Notice also that we have on the bench an order for a 1903 Springfield in 35 Whelen...stocked to the muzzle.
Thank you for your kind words.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #303005 - 13/07/17 02:47 AM

That is quite elegant! The old Lyman or Weaver scope fits nicely.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DarylS]
      #303010 - 13/07/17 07:45 AM

Lovely Model 70 Joel, looking forward to seeing it when it is finished.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #303013 - 13/07/17 08:48 AM

All I can say is, Wow! Mike, that's a fantastic rifle. The M-S action is the smoothest I've ever used. I can only imagine how beautifully that must feed, fire, and eject. You've had them include a lot of little extras. I do not consider those bells and whistles. Rather, they are personal nuances that make it yours. Praises for NOT going with a "traditional" full stock.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #303019 - 13/07/17 06:53 PM

Luck chap Mike. That looks like wonderful work Dorleac has done for you. Superb.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #303021 - 13/07/17 10:27 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I wish you would take on a project using a 1903 Springfield, or a Winchester Model 70, or maybe a 1917 Enfield action. It would be interesting to see what you could accomplish with these actions.



Carpetsahib, perhaps will you like this tribute to the rifleman rifle ?
A .264WM upgraded in D&D guise...more on it latter.
Notice also that we have on the bench an order for a 1903 Springfield in 35 Whelen...stocked to the muzzle.
Thank you for your kind words.

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Very, very nice. I am looking forward to seeing the Springfield.

It just now occurred to me! How about doing a Lee sporter??? I would love to see what you could accomplish with a Lee Speed action, or better yet, a SMLE No.1 MkIII.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #303025 - 14/07/17 01:18 AM

Hello DORLEAC,

It is the MOST BEAUTIFUL M-S I have ever seen. Period! Your stock design corrects the faults I have seen in the M-S. I also like and see as a big improvement the bolt handle change!
Congratulations to you and the owner!!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #303026 - 14/07/17 02:15 AM

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How about doing a Lee sporter??? I would love to see what you could accomplish with a Lee Speed action, or better yet, a SMLE No.1 MkIII.



Carpetsahib, I promise you that as soon as God will give me 48 hours days I will start a Lee Sporter project!
For now, I don’t have enough time to do everything I have in mind.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #303028 - 14/07/17 04:34 AM

Ha! I hear you!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #303046 - 14/07/17 06:22 PM

Great work looks awesome !

Yes I to would very much like to see a Lee Speed type rifle from your work shop !

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Sarg]
      #303054 - 14/07/17 11:56 PM

Absolutely stunning work!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Bidgee]
      #303284 - 25/07/17 03:59 PM

Mike has to be pleased with the results of that rifle.

It has to be the best looking .458 Win Mag I have ever seen.

And has the absolutely perfect "African classic sporter" look about it. IMO Dorleac does this look the best of ANY rifle maker. I am glad to have them aboard here at NE.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: NitroX]
      #303298 - 25/07/17 06:26 PM

there is truth in the world and the truth will make you free

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOOD TASTE! inaccessible but some things comes very close, many things are on the right way to come near, most things are correctly described as being trash.

the MS in 458 WM had the misfortune to came out when the spirit of the time was mentally disodered







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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: lancaster]
      #303302 - 25/07/17 08:29 PM

I was under the impression that we were here to express our appreciation of and mutual respect for fine sporting arms.

I applaud the master craftsmanship and artistry evidenced in this Dorleac example. It exhibits careful balance of time honored tradition with subtle overtures of modernity, all the while remaining true to its purpose.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #303303 - 25/07/17 08:46 PM

Splendid work, as always. Thank you so much for giving us a look at this M-S workover. You stand head and shoulders above the rest!

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #303413 - 29/07/17 07:53 AM

yes

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #332158 - 10/09/19 07:45 PM

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I was under the impression that we were here to express our appreciation of and mutual respect for fine sporting arms.

I applaud the master craftsmanship and artistry evidenced in this Dorleac example. It exhibits careful balance of time honored tradition with subtle overtures of modernity, all the while remaining true to its purpose.



Lancaster was doing that, in a round about humorous way. The last line is the conclusion of his comment.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: NitroX]
      #332201 - 11/09/19 01:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I was under the impression that we were here to express our appreciation of and mutual respect for fine sporting arms.

I applaud the master craftsmanship and artistry evidenced in this Dorleac example. It exhibits careful balance of time honored tradition with subtle overtures of modernity, all the while remaining true to its purpose.



Lancaster was doing that, in a round about humorous way. The last line is the conclusion of his comment.




I suppose.

Rather than citing Tim Leary and Ken Kesey (with photo of 'Further' bus and Leary 'drop out' quote) to illustrate his line, "the MS in 458 WM had the misfortune to came out when the spirit of the time was mentally disodered", perhaps these would be more appropriate to the 1958 proof date?:




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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #339314 - 24/03/20 05:17 AM

Wow, this is really magnificent work, probably the best Schönauer I have ever seen. And I have seen quite a few, living in Austria.

The case hardened pistol grip plate and bolt retainer add a nice touch.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: Woldan]
      #339551 - 30/03/20 03:17 AM

A definite improvement on the MS.


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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #351851 - 29/03/21 10:58 PM

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Making that big game rifle has been quite a challenge as I owe to the true to recognize that the basic quality of the 1956 donor Schöenauer wasn't up the craftsmanship level we usually found on prewar production.



I have read this before: that post-war Mannlicher-Schöenauer rifles were not built to the same quality as the pre-war versions. I once accepted this as fact, yet without personal experience of the post-war models, although I had collected pre-war Mannlicher-Schöenauer rifles for many years and was very familiar with their quality.

I recently obtained a few post-war carbines and rifles and was pleasantly surprised to find a high quality of metal finish, easily comparable to that of the pre-war models. (Below the stock line, many of the pre-war models are very rough indeed considering their reputation.)

When you have time, can you please explain to me specifically what it is about the Model 1956 that you consider as being not,"up the craftsmanship level we usually found on prewar production?"

(A personal connection: My great-grandfather and grand-uncle were both rifle makers at Steyr, Austria)

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: DORLEAC]
      #351855 - 30/03/21 01:25 AM

To re-share such beautiful work. How wonderful it would be to hunt with such a rifle.

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Mike, .458WM Mannlicher-Schöenauer is now fully completed.
Making that big game rifle has been quite a challenge as I owe to the true to recognize that the basic quality of the 1956 donor Schöenauer wasn't up the craftsmanship level we usually found on prewar production.
We have done the best to create a clean, well-balanced, rifle and we hope its owner will like and use it with confidence.
As stated earlier the sighting equipment relies on a S&B 1,25-4x24 scope fitted on special hand made quick detachable low claw mounts while the metallic sighting line combine a front 1/10" gold bead, three leaves express rear sight and a modified P-H bolt peep sight with removable aperture converting it to ghost ring.
Indeed all the barrel fitting is band soldered while the front swivel base is silver brazed.
The French walnut stock is DORLEAC slim style and some stubble touches of engraving, gold inlays and color case hardening complete the finish.
Please feel free to comment.

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Re: .458WM SCHÖENAUER : DORLEAC working for Mike [Re: NitroX]
      #351883 - 31/03/21 12:07 AM

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To re-share such beautiful work. How wonderful it would be to hunt with such a rifle.

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Yes indeed.

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