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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #211866 - 02/07/12 05:55 AM

Here is another 8mm Carbine owned and carried for 25 years by famous Kodiak Alaskan Bear guide Bill Pinnell

Notice where he whittled the forend to make it a handy walking staff



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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: 458Win]
      #211879 - 02/07/12 10:14 AM

Phil, that rifle just got to have interesting stories! Is it standard military with the exception of the whittling? I can't make out the author of the book and I know I have to read it.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: JDL]
      #211886 - 02/07/12 12:40 PM

Marvin Clark is the author of the book. there are two volumes of them and both are good reads




The rifle is interesting in that it is an early 1890 version of the pattern 88 yet the receiver is stamped for the S bullet

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: 458Win]
      #211921 - 03/07/12 01:32 AM

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Here is another 8mm Carbine owned and carried for 25 years by famous Kodiak Alaskan Bear guide Bill Pinnell

Notice where he whittled the forend to make it a handy walking staff





No doubt a handy saddle scabbard carbine.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: NitroX]
      #211924 - 03/07/12 01:42 AM

interesting rifle but dont have the rear sight anymore. is there a small peep sight on the bolt?

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #211934 - 03/07/12 02:24 AM

Real Alaskan guides don't need sights










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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: 458Win]
      #212042 - 04/07/12 04:05 PM

the short carbine makes a very handy rifle, indeed

do you know what for ammo he was using on angry bears? must have been handloads because american made 8x57 is weak compared with german full power cartridges.
8x57 brennecke tig will deal with every bear but may be hard to find in alaska.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #212060 - 04/07/12 08:15 PM

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the short carbine makes a very handy rifle, indeed



I imagine the carbine was actually designed for cavalry troops anyway.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: NitroX]
      #213317 - 23/07/12 10:48 PM

again a 8x57 I octagonal to round barrel with a Dr Walter Gerard /Carlottenburg 3x on claw mount






http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3944828



something I had forgot

a finnish Sako made sporter in 6,5x54 Kurz Mauser
probably made after WW 2



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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #213321 - 23/07/12 11:35 PM

An interesting 'find', Phil.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: DarylS]
      #213342 - 24/07/12 02:44 AM

believe it or not, it was listed and in the end sold (to my knowledge) for 180 euro

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #215337 - 24/08/12 03:46 AM

full lenght octagonal barrel, double set trigger
the target was shot with 4 rounds of this older Sellier&Bellot 8x57I at 100 meter with iron sight's














http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3992788

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #216695 - 14/09/12 12:55 AM

8x57I with octagonal barrel, double set trigger
gunmaker/dealer " W. Kustermann aus Colmar" on the barrel











giving an impression how the colour case looks when new


http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3962503

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #216699 - 14/09/12 01:38 AM

That old rifle has been well taken care over the years! Love the case colors.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: JDL]
      #219629 - 15/11/12 05:52 AM

Paul Mossiers Model 88 Custom 8mm S Bore.323 The action on this rifle is clean with strong case colour, cross hatched forward ring, extends on to barrel and also at rear of bolt, all original German proofs with no reproof, double set trigger, strong original blue on magazine/ floor plate. The barrel is a full length octagonal with a three quarter length integral rib, top of rib and barrel are hand filed and very attractive. We have cerrosafed the chamber and barrel to find it is a standard .323 diameter, S bore for readily available 8MM Mauser ammunition. The stock is a pistol grip with good finish and chequering, engraved crest plate, case coloured steel butt,14" lop, 7lbs 13oz. The scope is a steel tub with brass fittings that is adjustable and mounted on original quick detach claw mounts, scope is period correct to the rifle and appears to be original.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Paul-Mossiers-Model-88-Custom-8mm-S-Bore-323.cfm?gun_id=100296653









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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #219630 - 15/11/12 05:57 AM

G.HAMACHER DÜSSELDORF 9X57 Mauser


19 1/2" OCTAGON BARREL WITH A SOLID STANDING FULL LENGTH FILE CUT RIB AND A 2 LEAF EXPRESS SIGHT DOUBLE SET TRIGGER BULLET ENGRAVED BULLET TRAP EXTENSIVE ENGRAVING EXCELLENT CONDITION
http://www.gunsinternational.com/G-HAMACHER-DUSSELDORF-PRE-WAR-MAUSER-9X57.cfm?gun_id=100287195













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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #224793 - 05/02/13 03:37 PM

a Stutzen I have not seen before
8x57I

http://www.waffengebraucht.at/node/197356

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #225952 - 25/02/13 07:15 PM

remarkable because its in 8x60 - the 8x60 with I bore not the today more common 8x60S. first M 88 sporter I have seen with this chamber. seller have the opinion the magazin box is nickel plated.
sorry for the bad pics





http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4287856#img

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #225954 - 25/02/13 07:57 PM

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remarkable because its in 8x60


Most likely rechambered during the 1920s when the 8x57 cartridge was outlawed by the post-WW1 "Versailles Peace Treaty". The 8x60 was only then designed to replace the unavailable "military" 8x57 cartridge.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: kuduae]
      #227266 - 20/03/13 06:48 AM

for sale in the united states, basic model by Schilling or Haenel and proably in 8x57I
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=332647566
miss the rear base for the claw mount


















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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #227826 - 01/04/13 11:40 PM

a V.C.Schilling 8x57I
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=334542187
the "Suhl Prussia" engraving on the barrel indicate imho a rifle make for export into the united states




















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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #228262 - 07/04/13 11:48 PM

short M 88 carbine with Zeiss Ziel $ on claw mount, double set triggers and diopter by Emil Bartsch in Suhl http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4326682&PHPSESSID=1c48372950c373727e35fa1e0204049c
unfortunately deactivated












and here another also deaktivated M 88 stutzen
http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4347944&PHPSESSID=1c48372950c373727e35fa1e0204049c
barrel drilled and welded but action mostly intact, only firing pin welded
such rifles making nice fun project's, easy to buy and shipment without problems.
you only need a new barrel















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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #229131 - 21/04/13 01:34 PM

sold by "Schwartz Hannover" 8x57I serial number 17150
59 cm long octagonal barrel, double set trigger and Zeiss Ziel 6 on claw mount


http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4366406

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: lancaster]
      #229149 - 22/04/13 01:06 AM

You have been busy Lancaster, all very nice. Especially like the Carbine with Zeiss on board. Would be a joy to stalk thru the Black with that.

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Re: another M 88 sporter for the archive [Re: Caprivi]
      #229965 - 12/05/13 02:34 PM



Schilling made carbine 8x57I(?) for sale in sweden
http://auctionet.com/sv/61486-gevar-tysk.../images#image_1

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