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M 93 is the spanish mauser and some of them got a new barrel in 7,62 Nato /308 Win in the 1950/60s so the mystery and misunderstanding is loosed

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Well, thanks. There ya go! But, it did not have the bolt shroud of the Model 94's and 96's.

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The 91 has a similar BS as the 94's etc. It does not have the long claw extractor. You can just make out the small extractor in this pic:



Did the bolt handle lock down behind or thru/in front of the rear receiver ring, ie, was the rear receiver ring split? If so I wonder if it was a rebarreled Portuguese Mauser-Vergueiro (which is actually a blended Mannlicher/Mauser)?

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M 93 is the spanish mauser and some of them got a new barrel in 7,62 Nato /308 Win in the 1950/60s so the mystery and misunderstanding is loosed

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No mystery here. Tons of those small ring Mausers were sold here. Back in the 90's they were dirt cheap. Spanish .308s on the small ring actions. Some 91's also along with Turkish 93's and of course Spanish & Turkish 98 actions rebarreled to .308.

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the mystery was that daryl mention a M 93 "I am reminded now, of a local chap who has a M93 commercially turned into a .308 Winchester. I've no idea where he got it from." which I identified here naturally as a Mannlicher M 93 ( the Romania Mannlicher). this would have been a little problem if reworked for the 308 Win so I suggest the Mannlicher M 1904 in 8x57I.
in the early 90s a M 93 spanisch mauser in 308 came close to be my first rifle for this cartridge but the dealer don't get it then and I bought a FR 8.

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I love looking at these old war relics converted to nice looking hunting rifles. Thanks lancaster!

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I love looking at these old war relics converted to nice looking hunting rifles. Thanks lancaster!

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I agree. lancaster's threads of Euro rifles are awesome.

We have innumerable examples here, thousands and thousands of "converted" milsurp rifles to hunting rifles but w/ a huge difference, that being except for a very few action types the VAST preponderance of them are basement hacksaw jobs, not the skilled gunsmith reworks lanc posts from over there. I had really no idea such a body of high quality modifications even existed in Europe until I started following lancasters threads. His are tops!

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Well, thanks. There ya go! But, it did not have the bolt shroud of the Model 94's and 96's.

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The 91 has a similar BS as the 94's etc. It does not have the long claw extractor. You can just make out the small extractor in this pic:



Did the bolt handle lock down behind or thru/in front of the rear receiver ring, ie, was the rear receiver ring split? If so I wonder if it was a rebarreled Portuguese Mauser-Vergueiro (which is actually a blended Mannlicher/Mauser)?

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Now that, I don't remember, the extractor nor the bolt position. At the time, I do recall thinking I would not shoot it, myself.
Seems to me, it also had a barrel shorter than 20".

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Now that, I don't remember, the extractor nor the bolt position. At the time, I do recall thinking I would not shoot it, myself.
Seems to me, it also had a barrel shorter than 20".

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https://greatnorthgunco.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/IMG_8312-2048x1045.jpg

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This is a tidbit of info I find interesting in relation to your posts.

https://www.verfassungen.de/de45-49/kr-befehl2.htm

Controls were lifted it appears in the West in 1950. Were military surplus rifles then introduced to the legal market at that time? Did government sell them to civilians? Or did they just "reappear" from basements, attics and holes in the wall?

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Now that, I don't remember, the extractor nor the bolt position. At the time, I do recall thinking I would not shoot it, myself.
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https://greatnorthgunco.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/IMG_8312-2048x1045.jpg

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Dang- you know, that might be it, but the forend had been shortened.
I recall the front sight was a huge V, pointed up, of course.

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Dang- you know, that might be it, but the forend had been shortened.
I recall the front sight was a huge V, pointed up, of course.

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top cut down and minus the extra hardware?

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