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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: NitroX]
      #188640 - 26/08/11 09:01 PM

its interesting to note how much Kynoch ammunition in 8x50R come to surface now. it seems that Kynoch was the only maker of sporting ammuntion in this caliber after WW 2 for a long time. I wonder when they start to making this again and what the main market was. found it in a german list from 1972 as available so there must have been some stock after the end of Kynoch.


http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3456902

for other 8x50r cartridges:
http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=174842&an=0&page=0#Post174842

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: NitroX]
      #189101 - 02/09/11 08:44 PM

again two post war (8x56R caliber) conversions

with bad pic


http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3400395


and with good pics









http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3464777

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #189114 - 02/09/11 11:49 PM

Lanc!

That acorn-bolted one is a peach.

I especially like the tastefull reshaping of the military stock. Can barely see the plugged swivel hole in the wrist.

I want one.

Been trolling a bit around here to see if I might land one.

I'm certain if a good dry stock could be obtained, proper bedding using Acraglas gel would stiffen it up fully sufficiently enough to handle quite a bit of rugged use and shooting. That is, in spite of being dramatically thinned and reshaped.

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: 9.3x57]
      #189116 - 03/09/11 12:31 AM

if you wait a little bit my 10,75x52R SPRINGER REAMER WILL BE AT HAND
and every .423 barrel blank will work

we will see, if I have time next friday will inspect the Mosin action+barrel in 9,3x53R coming back from the proof house. talk with the gunmaker then about making the rifle ready in the white and then ... I will have the brain free again for future projects.

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #190333 - 21/09/11 04:22 AM

I have safe pics from an original military scope mount for a M 95 but forget where it was, for educational use












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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #193661 - 12/11/11 07:14 PM

how not to do
the stock in special could be useful in the coming winter time once but for a bubba job not bad










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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #195285 - 29/11/11 06:18 PM

this is maybe an interesting find for someone with an mannlicher that lost the scope sometimes




http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3569037
a Karl Kahles Wien Mignon 4x" engraved on the tube "Joh. Springer Erben, Wien"


it may not fit but for a good craftsman it would be possible to rework it.

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #195763 - 05/12/11 12:07 AM

from bad to good

very nice made "Mannlicher "stock M 95 in 8x50R












http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3599843

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #195764 - 05/12/11 01:03 AM

I like this one, too, lancaster.

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: 9.3x57]
      #197997 - 29/12/11 05:04 AM

Great to see this thread on the M95 sporters. When I first saw it today I thought I would post some photos of mine and ask some questions. A little further in I realized I wouldn't have to post the photos since they were already there . Thank you Lancaster for posting the pics of the sporter with the express sights and the hex receiver ring. I haven't found much information on the M95s, does anyone have an opinion on whether mine is an original sporter or a conversion? If I remember correctly it has a proof mark or factory stamp on the underside of the hex receiver ring that made me think it was an original sporter, but I haven't seen another like it. It is in 8x50R.
I thought there was so little interest in these actions I almost considered putting QD rings and a scout scope on it if it could be done with little alteration. That's a very slick action on that little carbine.

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: NorthernBob]
      #198066 - 29/12/11 11:30 PM

Quote:

Thank you Lancaster for posting the pics of the sporter with the express sights and the hex receiver ring. I haven't found much information on the M95s, does anyone have an opinion on whether mine is an original sporter or a conversion? If I remember correctly it has a proof mark or factory stamp on the underside of the hex receiver ring that made me think it was an original sporter, but I haven't seen another like it. It is in 8x50R.
I thought there was so little interest in these actions I almost considered putting QD rings and a scout scope on it if it could be done with little alteration. That's a very slick action on that little carbine.




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the stock looks to me like a sporterized carbine stock, also the barrel and rear sight are in the military style. the gunmaker filed the rear sight down before making an express sight from this. the hex receiver is unique to me. I have absolutly no clue about this.
the general idea of this post is to collect so many informations about M 95 sporter as possible. they were existing before 1914 but I dont know if the OEWG/Steyr made commercial hunting rifles or if it was done only from gunmaker in austria.
what I know about Steyr is that they did any business and sold also actions to everyone. if you compare the pics you will notice that most rifles are spoterized carbines. the years from 1919 up to 1960 are possible for any of this.


this is another unique austrian sporter, a Fruhwirth carbine in 11,15x36R - similar to 44/40 blackpowder loads










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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #198118 - 30/12/11 12:08 PM

Thanks for the info, Lancaster. I expect you're right on the cut down stock and conversion. I pulled it out of the back of the safe and took another look at it. When comparing it to the others in this thread it does look like the rear sight was filed down and the express sights added. If someone was doing a sporter from scratch I'm sure they wouldn't have used the nasty looking front sight either. It is the original military sight, isn't it?
The stock has a cheek piece that was added and it also has a dowel under the checkering plugging a through hole in the wrist. Someone probably just took a file to the action to give it the hexagon shape. I wonder what that would have done to the action strength?
Too bad it wasn't a full length stock, I really like the looks of those. Removing the barrel band and hand guard wood, shortening the forend wood and adding a horn or ebony tip would go a long way to improving the looks of this one. Adding a barrel band swivel and replacing the front sight with a nice ramp would be even better.
Thanks again for posting the pictures. The only way I'll learn more about my vintage firearms is from the experts such as yourself.


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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: NorthernBob]
      #198120 - 30/12/11 01:23 PM

Lancaster-


That Fruhwirth carbine is really neat, and the cartridge sounds pretty cool too. Is that gun for sale somewhere?







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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: tinker]
      #198164 - 31/12/11 12:49 AM

it was on egun last week and sold for 250 euro but the seller was only willing to ship inside of austria.

was one of the first bolt actions with a tubular magazin






to my knowledge the same case like for the werndl carbine and for the big gasser revolver.Roth had the 11,2x36R in the 1927 list under hunting and target cartridges but its only suitable for roe deer or your whitetail deer.
















1.some years ago I made a dummy from 7,62x54R Lapua brass
2. the new Prvi 8x56R brass would be right, you see that the shoulder starts at 36 mm
3. 10,75x52R Springer made from Prvi brass
4. 8x50R Mannlicher made from Prvi brass by running it in a 9,3x53R Fin. die and a 8x50R Lebel die, than loaded with the Lebel die set
5. 8x50R Mannlicher from Kynoch
6.8x50R Lebel
7.9,3x53R Fin.

I am probable ending with a 8x50R barrel next year and because nothing will be waisted it could become a 12 ga barrel insert so looking for fodder.
god to see it could be loaded without problems.

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #200352 - 23/01/12 07:17 AM

dont know what the story behind this is http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=3684628

new 63cm long barrel in 7,62x54R maybe because factory sporting ammunition is available. it looks not bad at all but I am not a fan of stocks with bayrische backe. wonder why there is no new proof, maybe a project gun the custumer was dying before it was ready.

must trying to move my projects, must trying to move my project, must...













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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #206622 - 06/04/12 06:37 PM









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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #217513 - 03/10/12 03:54 AM

very nice Stutzen in 8x50R









http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4023861

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #217546 - 03/10/12 11:12 PM

Does anyone know of a source for double-set triggers for the M95? This thread is whetting my appetite for a M95, maybe in 7x57R.

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #217711 - 06/10/12 11:27 PM

I think this were common parts in the white fittet into the mannlicher by hands of a the gunmaker like he did with mauser sporters

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #217967 - 15/10/12 03:38 AM

Quote:










the mannlicher sold for 581 euro what is the highest price I have seen for such a rifle

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #218139 - 18/10/12 02:36 PM

Quote:

Quote:










the mannlicher sold for 581 euro what is the highest price I have seen for such a rifle


That's also the nicest M95 sporter that I have seen. Concerning the double set trigger: the set trigger mechanism is readily available from Brownells at a reasonable price. Unfortunately, the kick-off lever (this replaces the trigger lever) is not available and must be fabricated. Does anyone have a photo of the kick-off by itself that I could use as a pattern?

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: Carpetsahib]
      #219628 - 15/11/12 05:50 AM

pic of a heavy engreaved M 95 done in Ferlach some years ago, found it on my hardware again and safe before its lost


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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #219793 - 19/11/12 04:59 AM

found the rifle again, for sale in austria







http://www.waffengebraucht.at/node/195255

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #221802 - 17/12/12 10:22 PM

must be the grandmother of all Mannlicher hunting rifles

a M 1888, 59 cm long barrel in 11,15x58R Werndl

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Re: another M 95 sporter [Re: lancaster]
      #222830 - 03/01/13 10:38 PM

single shot rifle in 8x50R
but otherwise very nice







http://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/gebrauchtwaf...2095&o=neu#

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