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38 Super handgun and ammo?
      #356783 - 16/09/21 01:10 AM

38 Super handgun and ammo?

Looking at acquiring a 38 Super STI Trogan in 38 Super.

Big problem. Told it is close to impossible to acquire ammunition, dies brass and powder.

Can anyone help?

Any suggestions?

What loads are used in 38 Super? Especially what powder?

Sources of brass?

Sources of loaded ammunition?

What press is recommended for reloading handgun ammo?

Lastly what do you think of the handgun and/or cartridges the 38 Super?

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #356785 - 16/09/21 02:48 AM

https://www.midwayusa.com/38-super/br?cid=21664

https://ammoseek.com/ammo/38-super

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Ripp]
      #356786 - 16/09/21 05:43 AM

Hi John,
Could be tough getting things for .38 Super in Oz?

Seemingly plenty of .38 Super load data at Load Data dot com. Not sure what pistol powder you have available.

Dies…..shipping from States is possible but maybe expensive. ebay worth a look.

Brass? Due to export restrictions any brass from USA is probably a no go….

Bullets? Any lighter .38/.357 jacketed if it will feed or CBE could make you a gas check mould.

Press? Anything like an RCBS Rockchucker up to progressive type….skys the limit.

Wish I could be of more help.
The .38 Super is a nice cartridge.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Ripp]
      #356787 - 16/09/21 05:45 AM

imho its not worth the hassle!
buy a 9 mm parabellum pistol and you have everything you need. this is the world wide standard and ammo will be available under any circumstances.
think in a glock you can load the 9 mm Para to a similar pressure and the pistol will stand it.

maybe not legal but the glock will take it.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: lancaster]
      #356791 - 16/09/21 07:33 AM

When I ran out of .38Super brass, I trimmed and turned an extractor groove (after turning the rims down) on my plentiful supply of .38SPL brass.
This worked just fine until I re-barrled the 1911 to .45 ACP - a welcome change indeed.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: DarylS]
      #356795 - 16/09/21 07:49 AM

G'Day Fella's,

NitroX, that is a very good choice.
Whilst obtaining loaded factory ammo, is next to impossible in Oz, obtaining the reloading "Bits & Pieces", shouldn't be an issue.

Contact:
Mr mario-mori@bigpond.com.au
www.saffiretrading.com.au
Ph:03-95960101

Mario should be able to supply you, both Dillon, Cabide reloading dies, and cases (probably Starline).
Remember, you will need a shell holder as well (if you are going to reload on a single stage press).

While your at it, if you don't already have a progressive reloading press, ask Mario for a price on one of these.

Hope that helps

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Homer]
      #356799 - 16/09/21 08:42 AM

I think the 38 Super is a great round. I had one in the late 60s and 70s, ol=nly trading it for another "must have" that was later traded for something else.

There are a number of articles that recommend head spacing the 38S on the mouth and that greatly increases accuracy.

Now Lancaster is right in that 9mm ammo is less expensive and available world wide and Glocks (if legal) are an inexpensive shooting iron, no shooting plastic. New 9mm bullets make it a formable round.

However, for me, a 1911 in 38S is an iconic pistol & cartridge. The FBI selected the 38S in the early 1930s.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: 85lc]
      #356804 - 16/09/21 01:18 PM

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I think the 38 Super is a great round.

There are a number of articles that recommend head spacing the 38S on the mouth and that greatly increases accuracy.

However, for me, a 1911 in 38S is an iconic pistol & cartridge. The FBI selected the 38S in the early 1930s.




+1 to all of this.

I neglected to mention, I still have a .38 Super (Kimber, 1911 Target II).

iirc, I'm getting just over 1300 fps, with Hornady, 124grn HAP jacketed bullets.
This is about 100fps under maximum, and it originally shot 10 shots into 2 1/2" (65mm), at 50 meters (from a Ransom rest), from this stock standard Kimber, 1911.
That in anybody's money, is pretty impressive!

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Homer]
      #356806 - 16/09/21 03:02 PM

Non Australians may not be aware that anything over 9 mm/38 is heavily restricted in Australia. For IPSC the 38 Super is a major calibre/cartridge choice.

There is a handgun I like at a decent price in near new condition with 5 mags, but next to no ammo available. None in fact.


This isn't a place where dozens or hundreds of choices grace the shelves

$2000 is the price for the 1911 style STI Trojan with 5 mags?

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #356807 - 16/09/21 03:06 PM

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Non Australians may not be aware that anything over 9 mm/38 is heavily restricted in Australia. For IPSC the 38 Super is a major calibre/cartridge choice.

There is a handgun I like at a decent price in near new condition with 5 mags, but next to no ammo available. None in fact.


This isn't a place where dozens or hundreds of choices grace the shelves

$2000 is the price for the 1911 style STI Trojan with 5 mags?




Yes I would prefer a 9 ,mm ... But this is available. Used a Walther Q5 in 9 mm yesterday. What do you guys think of that handgun? $3000 new.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #356832 - 17/09/21 04:46 AM

Quote:

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Non Australians may not be aware that anything over 9 mm/38 is heavily restricted in Australia. For IPSC the 38 Super is a major calibre/cartridge choice.

There is a handgun I like at a decent price in near new condition with 5 mags, but next to no ammo available. None in fact.


This isn't a place where dozens or hundreds of choices grace the shelves

$2000 is the price for the 1911 style STI Trojan with 5 mags?




Yes I would prefer a 9 ,mm ... But this is available. Used a Walther Q5 in 9 mm yesterday. What do you guys think of that handgun? $3000 new.




The "Match" model I assume??
I have not shot it ..owned a PPQ model for a while traded it for a H&K VP-9--it has a slighly lower bore axis which I preferred and it fit my hands better than the PPQ model

Man, $3000 is a lot of money --I looked on-line here -- $800 and up

https://www.gunbuyer.com/walther-ppq-q5-...2813335-gb.html


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/910638782


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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Ripp]
      #356834 - 17/09/21 04:58 AM

because you can use 9 para bullets, die sets, powder and primer reloading is not terrible at all. brass can be made wit a lathe by using 38 special/ 357 mag but maybe also by cut down 222 and 223 remington, of course, you reaming out the case mouth. I had done this years ago for a Steyr M 12 pistol and made 7,63 mauser form 223 Rem. the 9 mm Steyr is a 9x23 also and reloading was done with a 9 mm Parabellum die set.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: lancaster]
      #356836 - 17/09/21 08:07 AM

No need to make brass.
.38 Super +P brass from Starline pops up pretty regularly on the internet gun-sale sites.

Here's one available right now:
https://www.ozgunsales.com/listing/98561/starline_brass_38_super_100.html

I grabbed some not long ago to make 9mm Browning Long cases for a Husky m/1907. Very good brass by my experience so far, at a nice price. All good!

Coated projies from Hawkesbury River, and others, available all day long.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Marrakai]
      #356843 - 17/09/21 12:59 PM

I wouldn't worry there is plenty of shooters using 38 super, ask around the IPSC shooters, I have about 1000 rounds for my own guns and I had no trouble getting that.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: iomskp]
      #356844 - 17/09/21 01:08 PM

I should of checked before I posted, I just called one of the local gun shops and they have heaps of 38 super brass on the shelf, but they did say they don't know how difficult restocking could be.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: iomskp]
      #356847 - 17/09/21 05:27 PM

I will be checking some of these brass suggestions.

What projectiles does .38 Super use Any suggestions? I assume .38 calibre and not 9mm? any difference?

I am completely new to handgun reloading.

Powder? Powder may be a big problem. As if not available in local shops and if drying up generally, also not to have it sent from interstate myself. No one is making pistol powders in Australia I have bee told?

What powders?

What powder to use for a .38 Super and a 9 mm Parabellum. I will acquire some anyway.

What primers?

What press? I have several single stages presses for rifles. What are some choices for multi stage presses better suited to a handgun case?

Suggestions and information very much appreciated.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Ripp]
      #356848 - 17/09/21 05:36 PM

Quote:

Quote:



$2000 is the price for the 1911 style STI Trojan with 5 mags?




Yes I would prefer a 9 ,mm ... But this is available. Used a Walther Q5 in 9 mm yesterday. What do you guys think of that handgun? $3000 new.




The "Match" model I assume??
I have not shot it ..owned a PPQ model for a while traded it for a H&K VP-9--it has a slighly lower bore axis which I preferred and it fit my hands better than the PPQ model

Man, $3000 is a lot of money --I looked on-line here -- $800 and up





You are not wrong. I am amazed at prices for handguns, ordinary steel working bits, and nothing fancy. $3000, $4000, $5000, ridiculous prices.

I do like that Walther MQ or Q5 ? I will use it again, I don't think the same handgun is $800 in the USE and A$3000 in Australia? That difference would be extra-ordinary.

Will look, and also take more note next time I use it.

I must say I MUCH PREFER the Trigger of the 1911 STI Trojan crisp and one stage, to the two stage Walther trigger.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #356849 - 17/09/21 05:45 PM

Quote:

Quote:



Yes I would prefer a 9 ,mm ... But this is available. Used a Walther Q5 in 9 mm yesterday. What do you guys think of that handgun? $3000 new.




The "Match" model I assume??
I have not shot it ..owned a PPQ model for a while traded it for a H&K VP-9--it has a slighly lower bore axis which I preferred and it fit my hands better than the PPQ model

Man, $3000 is a lot of money --I looked on-line here -- $800 and up





You are not wrong. I am amazed at prices for handguns, ordinary steel working bits, and nothing fancy. $3000, $4000, $5000, ridiculous prices.

I do like that Walther MQ or Q5 ? I will use it again, I don't think the same handgun is $800 in the USE and A$3000 in Australia? That difference would be extra-ordinary.

Will look, and also take more note next time I use it.

I must say I MUCH PREFER the Trigger of the 1911 STI Trojan crisp and one stage, to the two stage Walther trigger.





Looks like it. So importing one from the USA would be cheaper, if say US$800 + Freight? + say US$800 other costs. Might end up close to A$3000 anyway.

Importers do not pay anything like $800 other costs per unit, as they do it in bulk. Individual suckers end up paying through the nose ...

Hey Art, come over next year for some hunting and bring one with you, to shoot some targets with me at an official range. I buy it from you. And go through local paper work.

PS Big assumptions on anyone travelling even next year, especially if poison un-jabbed ....

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #356852 - 17/09/21 06:38 PM

G'Day Fella's,

NitroX, I just sold the last of 5 x Walther, PPQ Match pistols I had, in 9x19mm.
They are a very nice pistol but expensive (this last one, sold for $1800.00).

FYI, two months ago, I purchased another Steyr-Mannlicher, L9 A1, in 9x19mm, from Magnum Sports in Sydney.
This particular one, had an extended and threaded barrel, that "I need" to use to develope, a 9mm suppressor for.

FYI. I see Magnum Sports current advert, in the SSAA magazine (page 21, Sept 2021), has them for $599.00 each!
This is probably the Best Buy in Australia, for a Quality 9mm semi-auto pistol!
At these prices, I can't understand why they are not more popular.
I purchased one about 3 or 4 years ago, and I have been using it constantly, to shoot IPSC matches with, and it really is a great pistol.
It fits my hand perfectly, and I shoot very well and it is easy to shoot well, which is why I like it.

FYI, I originally had one of these Steyr-Mannlicher pistols, prior to the 2002, "Handgun Buy Back".
Unfortunately, it was lost to the "Gubmint", because of it's barrel was to short, and the mags held too much ammo ...............

Hope that helps

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #356862 - 18/09/21 03:06 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:



Yes I would prefer a 9 ,mm ... But this is available. Used a Walther Q5 in 9 mm yesterday. What do you guys think of that handgun? $3000 new.




The "Match" model I assume??
I have not shot it ..owned a PPQ model for a while traded it for a H&K VP-9--it has a slighly lower bore axis which I preferred and it fit my hands better than the PPQ model

Man, $3000 is a lot of money --I looked on-line here -- $800 and up





You are not wrong. I am amazed at prices for handguns, ordinary steel working bits, and nothing fancy. $3000, $4000, $5000, ridiculous prices.

I do like that Walther MQ or Q5 ? I will use it again, I don't think the same handgun is $800 in the USE and A$3000 in Australia? That difference would be extra-ordinary.

Will look, and also take more note next time I use it.

I must say I MUCH PREFER the Trigger of the 1911 STI Trojan crisp and one stage, to the two stage Walther trigger.





Looks like it. So importing one from the USA would be cheaper, if say US$800 + Freight? + say US$800 other costs. Might end up close to A$3000 anyway.

Importers do not pay anything like $800 other costs per unit, as they do it in bulk. Individual suckers end up paying through the nose ...

Hey Art, come over next year for some hunting and bring one with you, to shoot some targets with me at an official range. I buy it from you. And go through local paper work.

PS Big assumptions on anyone travelling even next year, especially if poison un-jabbed ....




Hey John,

Would I be able to bring that into the country??
If so I have no problem doing that once this craziness gets over.. My wife and I have discussed traveling there for a while now..

Thx

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Ripp]
      #356864 - 18/09/21 03:54 AM

Addie would enjoy it. Tracy and I both did, for the short time we were there. Poor timing (LOL).

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Ripp]
      #356875 - 18/09/21 02:14 PM

Quote:


Hey John,

Would I be able to bring that into the country??
If so I have no problem doing that once this craziness gets over.. My wife and I have discussed traveling there for a while now..

Thx




Yes, I would need to enquire, probably get import permits re-arranged. t would probably get confiscated at the airport by customs.

OR if you were target shooting in Australia and the same as above, again enquiries before hand, to make sure you or I (!) don't end up in a gulag!!!

I don't know when covid gulag australia will terminate,

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #358049 - 11/11/21 11:42 PM

I've put a deposit on the .38 Super STI Trojan and put in a PTA permit to acquire. Waiting for the approval.

Five mags included. It is in near new condition. Needs a different foresight.

Have a few hundred rounds of ammo, similar for brass,vprojectkes, and lots of primers. Handgun powder is non existent to for sale,vin Australia,vfor who knows how we long. Better buy more loaded ammo.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #358061 - 12/11/21 05:31 AM

Cool! - when I couldn't find any .38Super brass, I made it out of .38 SPL brass of which I had thousands of once fired brass.
Shortened, turn the rim down, chamfer, done.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: Ripp]
      #360653 - 18/01/22 08:45 PM

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Yes I would prefer a 9 ,mm ... But this is available. Used a Walther Q5 in 9 mm yesterday. What do you guys think of that handgun? $3000 new.




The "Match" model I assume??
I have not shot it ..owned a PPQ model for a while traded it for a H&K VP-9--it has a slighly lower bore axis which I preferred and it fit my hands better than the PPQ model

Man, $3000 is a lot of money --I looked on-line here -- $800 and up

https://www.gunbuyer.com/walther-ppq-q5-...2813335-gb.html


https://www.gunbroker.com/item/910638782






This model of the Walther Q5 is the steel frame model. 10 round magazine match steel frame model.

I assume this one:
https://waltherarms.com/q5-match-steel-frame-standard-10rd/

https://f8x7p3b6.ssl.hwcdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Walther-PPQ-Q5-SF-RS_2830001.png

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #360654 - 18/01/22 08:50 PM

A question. As there is a ten round magazine model, can the larger capacity magazines also be used in this model? I was told, yes.

15 to 17 rounds.is just the magazine different? Or the feeding? And magazine well/housing?

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #360734 - 20/01/22 01:32 AM

My new handgun, STI Trojan Match in .38 Super. A 1911 style handgun.





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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #360748 - 20/01/22 06:30 AM

Certainly is. Nice.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: DarylS]
      #360750 - 20/01/22 07:33 AM

Very nice John!
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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: 93x64mm]
      #360756 - 20/01/22 10:34 AM

I started off with a 1911 in .38 Super. I've shot HiPowers but they were not in the same class.
Bushings for barrel fit, links to change engagement fit, so changeable, is the 1911.
Should never have sold mine.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: 93x64mm]
      #360761 - 20/01/22 11:15 AM

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Very nice John!
I hope you get a lot of fun out of this one.
The Browning Hi-power would be my choice if I get into pistols




Is a Browning HiPower a 1911 style handgun? If I remember when handling one once they looked a little like one? Fair amount of time ago.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: DarylS]
      #360762 - 20/01/22 11:27 AM

I used a club STI Trojan in 9 mm and liked it a lot. And it felt right. Discontinued model. Simple but works.

Have five magazines for it.

Second hand but near new. The springs are very tight. Good.

It needs new sights. Maybe a fibre optic dot on the front sight and a couple flanking painted dots on the rear. I find the existing sight harder to see quickly to shoot well quickly. I won't use a dot sight on this handgun. Keep it basic.

Have 300 loaded cartridges for it. Should get some more.

A fair number of projectiles and primers and maybe brass (?). No powder. Unobtainable at present. Need dies and a press still.

Need will be a 9 mm sometime when the wallet allows. I do quite like the steel frame Walther Q5. A completely different style of handgun. The two stage trigger ismnot sure about.

But a SIG P226 (?) double Action 9 mm would possibly be preferable. Sillily did not buy a second hand one at good price when available. I think they went quickly. Only one magazine. Additional mags could cost a lot if findable.

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Re: 38 Super handgun and ammo? [Re: NitroX]
      #360769 - 20/01/22 12:18 PM

I shot one of the ERT's new Sig. 226's when they were issued to that section.

Rapid fire on about an 8" plate at 50 meters, hit every shot - seems to me, it held 15rnds.

I was shooting a lot at that time and it was a breeze. I really liked that pistol. Would have been better if a .45, of course.

ERT - RCMP Emergency Response Team

Funny - I can NOT see that "scenario" happening today.

IIRC - it was DA for the first shot, then SA.

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STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: DarylS]
      #361337 - 30/01/22 07:43 PM



I have 5 mags, the owners manual, plastic lockable carrying case. Some cleaning kit stuff.

I would like recommendations for:

1. Suitable belt holsters. Leather or synthetic, flapped of not. And why? I will need some sort of quick draw holster for IPSC.

2. Similar carriers for the spare magazines.

3. Recommendations for a compact handgun cleaning kit in its own compact case or bag - pouch.

4. Anything else recommended?

5. Impossible to get, but which powders would you recommend and loads for a .38 Super? Also velocity of your loads so I can check.

6. Recommendations for a good affordable progressive press, reloading press.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: NitroX]
      #361339 - 30/01/22 07:46 PM

Seeing it is a traditional 1911 looking handgun I do like the idea of a traditional leather flap closing holster.

Of course I might have a synthetic holster for competition use.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: NitroX]
      #361351 - 31/01/22 03:11 AM

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I have 5 mags, the owners manual, plastic lockable carrying case. Some cleaning kit stuff.

I would like recommendations for:

1. Suitable belt holsters. Leather or synthetic, flapped of not. And why? I will need some sort of quick draw holster for IPSC.

2. Similar carriers for the spare magazines.

3. Recommendations for a compact handgun cleaning kit in its own compact case or bag - pouch.

4. Anything else recommended?

5. Impossible to get, but which powders would you recommend and loads for a .38 Super? Also velocity of your loads so I can check.

6. Recommendations for a good affordable progressive press, reloading press.

Thanks.




Saw your post on this elsewhere..congrats on the acquisition ...

I use Blade Tech for quicker drawing..training ..etc... NO safety latch or anything like that to make for a smooth quick draw..
https://blade-tech.com/products/classic-owb-holster

I prefer leather when carrying for personal protection..And normally what I used for CC..But too be honest..many of my IWB are synthetic .. The option of leather when I am out on the ranch is nice..but dont like it when out on a ride checking cattle and getting caught in a rain storm.. like synthetic or other than leather in that instance..

MY good friend uses a Dillon progressive loader.. he really likes it.. I dont have a progressive.. before the ammo shortage I had a deal and got it quite cheap for factory ammo..so I purchased it by the truck load.. currently don't have the time to sit for hours reloading.. Have cattle to tend to..


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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: Ripp]
      #361363 - 31/01/22 06:20 AM

I no longer have my data for the .38 Super from my 1911. Gone!
I just checked the Hodgon's Annual Manual and none of the data in there was familiar. Seems to me I used Unique and Herco for powders.
Checking an old manual I'd have used, the Lyman Cast Bullet Handbook of the 70's I see 150gr. cast using 5.7gr. Unique for 1,110fps as well as 6.0gr. with 133gr. bullet for 1,200fps.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: DarylS]
      #361384 - 01/02/22 04:54 AM


Super-Accurate .38 Super Loads

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/super-accurate-38-super-loads/326242

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: Ripp]
      #361403 - 01/02/22 02:05 PM

Thanks gentlemen.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: NitroX]
      #363108 - 05/03/22 08:47 PM

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I have 5 mags, the owners manual, plastic lockable carrying case. Some cleaning kit stuff.

I would like recommendations for:

1. Suitable belt holsters. Leather or synthetic, flapped of not. And why? I will need some sort of quick draw holster for IPSC.

2. Similar carriers for the spare magazines.

3. Recommendations for a compact handgun cleaning kit in its own compact case or bag - pouch.

4. Anything else recommended?

5. Impossible to get, but which powders would you recommend and loads for a .38 Super? Also velocity of your loads so I can check.

6. Recommendations for a good affordable progressive press, reloading press.

Thanks.





John,

Congratulations on your Super .38 acquisition! That's a great cartridge on the 1911 platform. I have several.

If you will send my your postal mailing address by PM or email, I will send you a nice reproduction GI flap holster.





This is no quick-draw, but it probably is just what you need. It's a little dry, but a rub with leather conditioner, inside and out, will bring it to life.

My gift to you, mate.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: Ripp]
      #363130 - 06/03/22 04:24 PM

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Super-Accurate .38 Super Loads

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/super-accurate-38-super-loads/326242




Thanks. Useful. If pistol powders are ever imported again? Rifle and shotgun powders are made here. Indeed exported to the USA

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: CptCurl]
      #363131 - 06/03/22 04:38 PM

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John,

Congratulations on your Super .38 acquisition! That's a great cartridge on the 1911 platform. I have several.

If you will send my your postal mailing address by PM or email, I will send you a nice reproduction GI flap holster.

This is no quick-draw, but it probably is just what you need. It's a little dry, but a rub with leather conditioner, inside and out, will bring it to life.

My gift to you, mate.

Cheers,
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Dankeschoern Mein Kapitan! Thanks, it will come in useful.

A .45 ACP Colt 1911 would even be better in it! Alas however our .38 general handgun limit designed to keep unruly natives peaceful. Can't have those Moro local savages getting their hands on .45s.

I have a man bag with a pocket at the back.i have wondered if a handgun would fit in the back pocket? The STI Trojan is not small. Yes it does! Obviously only useful in more carry enlightened lands than Australia.

My manbag is British karki, a mil style smallish bag with bottle holder, knife pouch, several zipped pockets. A shoulder strap and a belt loop as well. Excellent for travelling or strolling the shops in town!

Thanks again for the gift of the leather holster emblazoned with the US!

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: NitroX]
      #363189 - 07/03/22 07:25 PM

Hello John,

that is a fine pistol, congratulation!

recommendations :


Holster
Sickinger in Austria has good products in leather, I would look for a model with a covered trigger guard (prevents pulling the trigger during draw and prevents holes in the trouser :-)

For IPSC I would use a Kydex holster. These are rugged, have a good fit to the weapon, the resistance for draw can be adjusted and they are reasonable priced. For IPSC it is mandatory that the trigger area is guarded.

Ammunition:
I would stay away from lead bullets in indoor ranges because of the high bullet velocities and the smoke/fog/fumes generated. As a former IPSC range officer I hated especially the guys with 38 Super guns and lead bullets ...

The copper plated lead bullets work good, have acceptable accuracy and are not as expensive as jacketed bullets


Reloading press:
The Dillon 550 (4 station progressive press) is a very good press for medium volume loading and not as complicated to adjust if you have a stoppage (Berdan case, wrong case, ...) like the Dillon 650.
Also less expensive.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: Rolf]
      #363205 - 08/03/22 06:07 AM

Years ago, I used a Dillon 450. Nice press, but not as automated as my bro's 650 or the 550.
I used to load about 300 .45ACP per hour on it.
The longer cases, like the .38 spl and .357mag were slower.
They really work well with shorter cases and the .38 Super should work just fine.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: DarylS]
      #363214 - 08/03/22 05:49 PM

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: NitroX]
      #363217 - 08/03/22 06:10 PM

I have been feeding both my 38 supers 3.9 of WST with a 125 gr RN and they both work fine, almost no recoil and very accurate.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: iomskp]
      #365217 - 04/05/22 09:12 PM

Hey John, did the holster arrive? I mailed it some weeks ago.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: CptCurl]
      #365219 - 04/05/22 09:55 PM

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Hey John, did the holster arrive? I mailed it some weeks ago.

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I believe it might be at the post office. For various reasons I have not been there for several months ... Hopefully will soon.

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Re: STI Trojan 38 Super handgun - holsters & accessories? [Re: CptCurl]
      #365221 - 04/05/22 10:05 PM

Curl,btw I am keen one day to get a Colt 1911 .45 ACP.

Possibly impossible due to the law. Once allegedly the most popular handgun in Australia. Since 2003 gone.

I know IPSC is not an acceptable justification here.

Larger than .38 IS a justification for knocking down metal silhouettes, so I will try that. Another club to join.

That holster will be perfect for my future 1911 .45 ACP! . Here's hoping.

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