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Ash
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Glocks! Thoughts?
      #288360 - 26/09/16 06:25 PM

Hey guys!

Any thoughts on Glocks? Seem to be bloody popular, so must be alright?

What about the Glock 37 in .45 GAP? (Sometimes someone just "wants" a certain caliber, despire performance or similar cartridges (thinking someone is going to go "why not 45 ACP") :P.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288362 - 26/09/16 08:08 PM

Proven to be one of the most reliable sidearm's going. Up there with the Colt 1911, Browning Hi Power and CZ75. Will run reliably with most ammo. The grip angle is not as good as the Hi Power and 1911 at least for me.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288363 - 26/09/16 08:18 PM

I had a 21 and loved but went back to 38Super when the Govt stole them off us as I couldn't be bothered shooting Metallic Sill just to keep it and the STI suits the IPSC better I think.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Viking338]
      #288366 - 26/09/16 09:19 PM

Ash,
As it was stated earlier, Glocks are ultra reliable with any type of ammunition.
I carry a G19 (9x19) daily and have the utmost faith that it will work any time I call upon it.
As to your caliber choice, I have not seen a box of .45 GAP for sale in the USA for many years.
I'm sure its out there, but it ain't popular!

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #288370 - 26/09/16 10:46 PM

OMG!!!!!! Tupperware in my gun safe????? At least when you clean it, the thing is dishwasher safe....... I made that comment to a lady cop friend of my social planner when the ladies were gathered at the kitchen table yammering on about girl stuff while I was loading the dishwasher (pardon the pun) before going out to shoot IPSC. She was left a little bit speechless and chose to politely ignore my baiting comment. The cops up here don't get to choose their own. They must carry what their masters issue to them.

Almost all IDPA or IPSC shooters will shoot a 1911. The best of the best shoot 1911s. Why? Because it is the fastest and most effective sidearm for the "play combat" gamers, and one will struggle to be competitive if one chooses an alternative. The Glock double action trigger is not a friend of speedy-accurate shooting, particularly for a shooter is habituated to single action triggers, and one must learn to shoot it effectively.

As for the Glock, they are incredibly strong, accurate, utterly reliable to a fault, and relatively cost effective. Oh, and did I mention how utterly reliable they were? I have seen two Glocks outright fail in all the years I've been at this shooting thing. And the cause of the failure? The incompetent owner had a habit of seriously over charging his cases and blew them both sky high. On the second blow up, he lascerated his trigger finger and thumb pretty badly but other than that, He was pretty much unscathed. Not the Glock's fault at all and it would seem to prove out the statement that you can't fix stupid, repeating a serious and potentially fatal mistake more than once.

As for .45 GAP, I've never even heard of that caliber. Most guys shoot .40 cal, and a fair number shoot .45ACP. If it makes you happy and brass isn't an issue, then have at it.

I honestly can't give you a personal experience based opinion on its suitability for a daily carry gun because we are not allowed to do that in Canada. Only the criminals are armed in Canada. The police forces like 'em because the accidental discharge likelihood is greatly reduced with the Glock design, ergo it is a much safer issue firearm than having to deal with the additional training issues and scary looking public presentation that is associated to the open holster cocked and locked 1911 carry condition.


As a side note, and at the risk of hijacking the OPs thread, here in Canada, a previous Liberal justice minister, Alan Rock, brought in bill C68, a highly flawed and highly restrictive piece of anti-firearms legislation, and upon doing so, loudly declared that only the police and military should have firearms, and if you wish to shoot firearms, you should join the police or military. His words almost verbatim were the same words spoken many decades earlier in the late 1930s by Heinrich Himler as the Nazi party was rising to power in pre war Germany.


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #288372 - 26/09/16 10:56 PM

Glocks became part of my "go to" hangun arsenal later in life as I didn't like the grip angle and feel like a 1911..BUT, I now have a 17, 19,20, 23, 34 model...carry the 19 fairly often and really like it..Had some custom work done to it such as change the angle of the trigger guard a bit to eliminate "glock knuckle" .installed night sights, stippled the grip and removed the finger groves...did similar to the model 34 that I use for more of a target shooting format or lesson gun along with custom trigger and cerakote finish on it..

They are as stated "ultra reliable"..you pull the trigger and they go boom...:)

Here is a pic of my model 34 after-.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ripp]
      #288383 - 27/09/16 03:19 AM

In case there were any doubts on Glock..

here is a guy fishing(unusual method) under water with one..

https://youtu.be/6lG-snJZIV8

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ripp]
      #288466 - 29/09/16 09:29 PM

Haha thats cool (the lion fish)

Ripp, nice Glock. Ive never seen a cut out of the slide before. Please explain?

I was thinking for fun maybe one day getting a Glock 21 and a .50 GI kit :P (for the lols ).

Although i do wonder - how would that cartridge go as? Do you think it may have too much penetration or be alright? 185gr .500 bullet @ 1200fps. Same ballistics as a .45 ACP just a bigger bullet i think?


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288469 - 29/09/16 11:05 PM

A lot of the police depts here tried the Glock, then went back to whatever they were using before as a result of excessive self- inflicted gunshot wounds. Seems the officers were not able to keep the finger out of the triggerguard when re-holstering. By excessive I mean 100% increases, or so. Excellent pistol, but ya need to keep your finger off the trigger!!!
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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: gungadoug]
      #288472 - 29/09/16 11:38 PM

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A lot of the police depts here tried the Glock, then went back to whatever they were using before as a result of excessive self- inflicted gunshot wounds. Seems the officers were not able to keep the finger out of the triggerguard when re-holstering. By excessive I mean 100% increases, or so. Excellent pistol, but ya need to keep your finger off the trigger!!!
Doug




Not trying to be over critical here..but that is just plain really pathetically poor training...WTH???

Really, your finger is on the trigger has you are pulling or putting away in your holster??? Perhaps the policy dept in question needs to up their budgets to allow for more handgun practice?? It is quite obvious training is NOT a priority if this is occurring with that much frequency..Just say'n...sorry, to go off a bit, but WOW, really???

I do know some holsters that are meant to retain the firearm have a little plastic button you push as you are drawing the weapon which puts the finger in a bad position when drawing..but NO police dept should be using those anyway as they can also be purchased with the release by the thumb and a number of other restraining types...so that should not be an issue..

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288473 - 29/09/16 11:46 PM

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Haha thats cool (the lion fish)

Ripp, nice Glock. Ive never seen a cut out of the slide before. Please explain?

I was thinking for fun maybe one day getting a Glock 21 and a .50 GI kit :P (for the lols ).

Although i do wonder - how would that cartridge go as? Do you think it may have too much penetration or be alright? 185gr .500 bullet @ 1200fps. Same ballistics as a .45 ACP just a bigger bullet i think?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twq-0LgY_vI










On the model 34, that is how they come from the factory..with the cutout..

I dont know anything about the cartridge you describe above..best left for someone who does...initially one of the issues with the 10mm was over penetration when first picked up to be used by law enforcement..that, and the recoil was found to be excessive for many, especially for those with smaller hands.. (but those with smaller hands have other problems as well --

Here are ballistic charts I found on the 10mm and 45ACP..impressive velocity on the 10..many here carry it as a bear defense gun while out bow hunting or hiking..I still prefer my wheel gun in 44mag. ..perhaps I am just old fashion...

http://www.ballistics101.com/10mm.php

http://www.ballistics101.com/45_acp.php

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: gungadoug]
      #288475 - 29/09/16 11:51 PM

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A lot of the police depts here tried the Glock, then went back to whatever they were using before as a result of excessive self- inflicted gunshot wounds. Seems the officers were not able to keep the finger out of the triggerguard when re-holstering. By excessive I mean 100% increases, or so. Excellent pistol, but ya need to keep your finger off the trigger!!!
Doug




You absolutely MUST be kidding!!!!! Wow!!! I would have expected the opposite when comparing to a 1911.... Cocked and locked, a 1911 commands and demands good gun handling. I would have thought the Glock would have prevented ADs from touchy 1911 triggers and a safety that can easily be snikked to the fire position...... Best send them LEOs back to basic training and requalify the lot..... Again, WOW....


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #288492 - 30/09/16 08:21 AM

What Ripp and Postman said about Glock handling.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rule303]
      #288496 - 30/09/16 08:58 AM

Thanks for the responses.
Ripp I had no idea they came like that. Your Glock looks fantastic! I'm saving those images.

Moving to the US hopefully, gotta look into gun laws to see what'll allow me to own. Or if they'll just all be my wife's guns lol. Going to enjoy the freedom.

About the 10mm - the police here carry Glock 22's in .40 S&W. Wonder what made them go that choice? Maybe it's just the movies but I always thought police just generally carried 9mm's.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288498 - 30/09/16 11:30 AM

I have not had a lot of semi autos, but that little bit of wood that rattles around in my head from time to time told me I had to have a Glock, so I go and by a 34 in 9 mm with 4 mags and I pick up a 6 inch target barrel, it works like a dream providing I load the rounds correctly how ever the trigger is crap I have replaced some parts to make it better but the trigger is still crap, the gun hits where you point it, loads and unloads well, mag release is great for me, all in all I wish I still had my CZ 75 or bought a SIG and yes the Glock is for sale.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288499 - 30/09/16 11:35 AM

I don't remember seeing or hearing anything about the criminals accidentally shooting themselves with Glocks. Maybe it is because they hold them on there sides wile shooting.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288514 - 30/09/16 05:43 PM

Ash the police went with 40cal as it is a better stopper than 9mm.

The Glock was designed as a combat handgun with reliability as its foremost feature, as such it's trigger is great. As a competition gun the trigger needs work. I'll stay with the factory trigger. Also if you only let the trigger out to the reset notch-when you hear and feel a click- then the trigger is very light and requires very little movement.


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rule303]
      #288517 - 30/09/16 06:03 PM

Love that underwater shooting clip. Can anyone give me an idea why he has that stainless "tube" on the end ?
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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Wayne59]
      #288520 - 30/09/16 09:35 PM

Quote:

I don't remember seeing or hearing anything about the criminals accidentally shooting themselves with Glocks. Maybe it is because they hold them on there sides wile shooting.




Yo mama!!!!! Ya caint be killin' no home boyz wit out cha holdin' da gun gansta style mon!!!

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #288521 - 30/09/16 09:44 PM

I think you mean "mon".

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Well_Well_Well]
      #288522 - 30/09/16 09:55 PM

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I think you mean "mon".




Yup. I suck when it comes to speaking gangsta...... I hold my pistols upright. Maybe that's why I can't break into IPSC master class. Post corrected.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rule303]
      #288523 - 30/09/16 10:46 PM

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Ash the police went with 40cal as it is a better stopper than 9mm.

The Glock was designed as a combat handgun with reliability as its foremost feature, as such it's trigger is great. As a competition gun the trigger needs work. I'll stay with the factory trigger. Also if you only let the trigger out to the reset notch-when you hear and feel a click- then the trigger is very light and requires very little movement.




Agree with above..and yes, while the triggers are certainly not a 1911 style pull there are a couple things you can do without switching them..polish up the trigger assembly is one..also when shooting--pull trigger to point of the reset and once fired only release trigger to the point of reset again, you will hear an audible click..works very well for multiple shots..

I have replaced the trigger on the model 34 as I use it more for target style shooting..but have not and will not replace my carry gun which is a model 19 that has been worked..but still factory trigger...working on a weekly basis with some local law enforcement individuals training in martial arts, their advisement is leave it as is..if one actually does get into a confrontation and shots are fired, the trigger could become an issue..especially if the 15 round clip is dumped into the dead person's chest..

As to 9mm vs 40..that is correct..it was stated back some time ago when law enforcement was toying with the idea of the 10mm (which proved to be to much for some) alas the 40 S&W was born which some say stands for short and weak.. However with the advent of better ammo, bullets, etc..the FBI is now going back to the 9mm..not sure if it is more of a issue with hiring more females and they cant handle the recoil but my thoughts are if Phil Shoemaker can kill a brown bear at 6ft with a 9mm, odds are there aren't too many humans that cant be stopped with the same weapon..

One final issue with the Glocks is that it is stated or rumored that you are NOT to use hard cast bullets in the standard factory barrels of a Glock..in my model 20 10mm I actually installed a KKM and had the port modified a bit to accept most any rounds ..and now carry it with hard cast bullets while hiking in the woods with my family ..or as stated earlier take my S&W model 329 in 44 mag loaded with 300gr hard cast ..have to admit 14 rounds from the 10mm is formidable

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ripp]
      #288532 - 01/10/16 01:37 AM

More interesting info...

http://www.shootingtimes.com/gunsmithing/glock-conversion-9x23-winchester/

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288533 - 01/10/16 01:44 AM

Quote:

Thanks for the responses.
Ripp I had no idea they came like that. Your Glock looks fantastic! I'm saving those images.

Moving to the US hopefully, gotta look into gun laws to see what'll allow me to own. Or if they'll just all be my wife's guns lol. Going to enjoy the freedom.

About the 10mm - the police here carry Glock 22's in .40 S&W. Wonder what made them go that choice? Maybe it's just the movies but I always thought police just generally carried 9mm's.



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Let me know if you do move here..

As to freedoms, your about 25 years to late.. kidding in a way, however freedoms here are not what they once were...and that I am not kidding about...The planet has become so politically correct its enough to make you puke.. BUT still a pretty cool place to live...based on my conversations on this site, we have many firearms freedoms many no longer enjoy...sad but true story..

Here in the gold old US of A, you will find a variety of calibers being carried..the guys I workout with from the local Sherriff's office carry Colt 1911's in 45ACP...local police carry mostly 9mms Glocks..friends of mine in the Forest Service here carry Sig 40's...so, take your pick..

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ripp]
      #288542 - 01/10/16 07:13 AM

Re the cast lead bullets. I have fired several thousand cast lead bullets through my Glock 22 with no ill effect. Didn't hear about the Glock warning of not using lead projectiles in the polygon barrels until several thousand had gone through the barrel. In my 19 I use coated lead bullets ratted to 1500fps from memory. I did clean the 22 with a mag of jacketed rounds at the end of each range session and a cyclone brush. No need for this when using coated lead.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rule303]
      #288567 - 01/10/16 05:26 PM

Ripp - sure i'll let ya know

Video to add to the "fishing with glocks" one. Mike - it shows what the stainless tube does at the end of the video if i recall correctly.

Deer with Glocks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGkTXNAJqWY

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ash]
      #288583 - 02/10/16 03:44 AM

I have a Glock model 20 in 10mm..that cartridge is lethal...as you can tell..

Great carry gun for in the woods...or car gun on the freeway...or house gun, or..

Actually a little overkill for in the house..possibility of going through the suspect and a wall are high..but you get the point..

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ripp]
      #288591 - 02/10/16 06:19 AM

And, it's dishwasher safe!!!!

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #288666 - 04/10/16 12:41 PM

Glocks are a good pistol. Very good entry price and the "sky is the limit" with what you can do with them.

I've got a few standards, a couple of Zev guns and want to get a G19 done by Agency. Take a look at the recent testing Military Arms Channel did (and some of the others they tested):

https://www.full30.com/video/36fe53548c99c32016affd5227a6557a


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: SharpsNitro]
      #288667 - 04/10/16 12:54 PM

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Glocks are a good pistol. Very good entry price and the "sky is the limit" with what you can do with them




I wholeheartedly agree.......... But it is also great entertainment poking fun at the indestructible Tupperware nature of their design............


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #288687 - 04/10/16 08:10 PM

Gentlemen,

the Glock pistol seems to be THE most common "plastic pistol", however, if you are looking for this type of no-nonsense pistoland are not focused to a special brand, I would recommend to examine the PPQ family of Walther also.

I compared both pistols (both in 9mm Para)in the shop and in live shooting, and Walther PPQ convinced me:
- it has a better trigger with a good to feel "breaking point"
- the PPQ is provided with two additional grip panels in a smaller and a larger size to change the grip size for a better fit
- please note that I am not able to compare the precision of both guns, I am not a good shot
- the disadvantage of the PPQ is the price, which is about 10-15 % more expresive than the Glock

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rolf]
      #288688 - 04/10/16 09:22 PM

If the PPQ barrel length is less than 104mm, it is a prohibited device in Canada and can not be imported for sale.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #288690 - 04/10/16 09:49 PM

Hello Postman,

the barrel length of the PPQ in 9x19 is only 102 mm long (2mm too short for the canadian regulations).
I see the point of the bureaucrats that Canada will be a better and more peaceful country with this regulation, so no discussion about this!

Only the PPQ in 40 S&W has a 106mm barrel.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rolf]
      #288692 - 04/10/16 10:51 PM

Yes, our fine liberal politicians saw fit to outlaw what they deem to be evil devices. Now the criminals pay attention and abide by this silly law and ensure their barrel lengths are legal......NOT!!!!! And of course the country is a much better place because of this fine law!!!!!!!

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #288693 - 04/10/16 11:59 PM

I have handled the PPQ as well and agree it is a very nice handgun..the issue for me is I have so many of the Glocks already, I like to follow through with familiarity.. nothing really changes much from one to another when it comes time to use them..if I was starting out and didn't have a Glock already I can see wherw I might give the PPQ a good hard look...

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #288723 - 05/10/16 09:43 AM

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Yes, our fine liberal politicians saw fit to outlaw what they deem to be evil devices. Now the criminals pay attention and abide by this silly law and ensure their barrel lengths are legal......NOT!!!!! And of course the country is a much better place because of this fine law!!!!!!!




Same down here.


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rule303]
      #288995 - 13/10/16 12:56 PM

My 19c shoots everytime.trgger is crappy even ported has pretty good muzzle flip.if you just want to shoot its great like beer.a good 1911 shoots like a fine wine.but I'm the idiot who loves the tokarev.have m57s in both trucks and the bed.love that fast little round.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: ducmarc]
      #289265 - 21/10/16 05:19 AM

works under warer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lG-snJZIV8

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rule303]
      #289277 - 21/10/16 10:54 AM

Quote:

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Yes, our fine liberal politicians saw fit to outlaw what they deem to be evil devices. Now the criminals pay attention and abide by this silly law and ensure their barrel lengths are legal......NOT!!!!! And of course the country is a much better place because of this fine law!!!!!!!




Same down here.




Saw on the local news channel the other night a ticker tape flash that said the Australian PM is tightening already strict gun laws by outlawing a rapid fire shotgun......... Reading between the lines, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this in reference to the more than 100 year old technology lever action shotguns? I'm sure there will be little ducks on the ponds all over Australia voting for this obviously socialist penis.

Edited by Postman (21/10/16 10:56 AM)


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Postman]
      #289290 - 22/10/16 02:26 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Yes, our fine liberal politicians saw fit to outlaw what they deem to be evil devices. Now the criminals pay attention and abide by this silly law and ensure their barrel lengths are legal......NOT!!!!! And of course the country is a much better place because of this fine law!!!!!!!




Same down here.




Saw on the local news channel the other night a ticker tape flash that said the Australian PM is tightening already strict gun laws by outlawing a rapid fire shotgun......... Reading between the lines, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this in reference to the more than 100 year old technology lever action shotguns? I'm sure there will be little ducks on the ponds all over Australia voting for this obviously socialist penis.




HHAAAAA....now that is funny...

Amazing how the quack politicians have such a keen insight for the good of the people that the rest of us don't see...

Ripp

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ripp]
      #289292 - 22/10/16 03:17 AM

The company had an add with a fellow well practiced in shooting it quickly and it frightened the Libtards.
Pump guns are easily much faster yet.

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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: DarylS]
      #289306 - 22/10/16 04:10 PM

The Adler lever action shotgun is what he is talking about. More specifically the 7 shot version. The 5 shot is already allowed in. Or resident poison garden gnome -john Howard- is trying to keep this in the news. The importers NIOA did one up so it was nice and slick then did a u tube bit on it. This caused a mighty uproar amongst the PC mob. They tried to ban the shot gun period but pressure from the firearms world- Showing it was 150 year old technology, not new tech- had the shotgun allowed but the 7 shot banned. Also there were a number of Adler's in the country which would mean a buy back.

Now they are talking about changing the firearm category it is in. Meaning it would be way harder for those with them to keep them and harder for others to justify buying one. The plus side for Govt is they would not have to do a buy back.


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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Rule303]
      #289724 - 02/11/16 07:31 AM

G'Day Fella's,

I recently purchased a 5 shot Adler Lever Action, in 12 gauge.
This was for business reasons of coarse (to develop a suppressor for it) and had nothing to do with buying one, just to get the statistics up and irritate the Gun Grabbers...........

Speaking of Gun Grabbers, I see that that Political Animal and UN Pin-Up STOOGE, little johnny howard (John Winston Howard) has been in the media again of late. As usual, he was spruiking the BS line of how he made Australia a safer place, etc, etc. Fortunately, I think the average Aussie is now starting to see thru this and realise it is all just BS, and that there are Two types of gun owners, LAFO's and Criminals.

FJWH!
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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Homer]
      #289759 - 02/11/16 10:41 PM

Quote:

G'Day Fella's,

I recently purchased a 5 shot Adler Lever Action, in 12 gauge.
This was for business reasons of coarse (to develop a suppressor for it) and had nothing to do with buying one, just to get the statistics up and irritate the Gun Grabbers...........

Speaking of Gun Grabbers, I see that that Political Animal and UN Pin-Up STOOGE, little johnny howard (John Winston Howard) has been in the media again of late. As usual, he was spruiking the BS line of how he made Australia a safer place, etc, etc. Fortunately, I think the average Aussie is now starting to see thru this and realise it is all just BS, and that there are Two types of gun owners, LAFO's and Criminals.

FJWH!
Homer




My thoughts, at least for where I live, is Yes, the average person away from the large cities see much of what the lying politicians have to say as BS..but those uniformed, head in the sand types in the very large cities might not see it that way and that, unfortunately is what keeps life in those worthless turds...sad to say...



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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Ripp]
      #289791 - 03/11/16 09:27 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Yes Ripp, in reality, it is probably the same situation here as well...sad to say?

Best Wishes that Trump Wins and that Hitlery and Pres Borat O'Bongo, etc, all go to prison!

Double Doh!!
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Re: Glocks! Thoughts? [Re: Homer]
      #290610 - 21/11/16 10:34 AM

My department went to a uniform issue for all officers in 2006. The pistol chosen was Glock. Officers can choose either the Glock 21 (45 ACP) or the Glock 19 (9mm). I picked the Glock 19. I don't have large hands and I simply don't like the feel of the Glock 21. It was like holding a piece of wood. In the ten years since we went to Glock the company redesigned the grip of the Glock 21, but I'm still carrying the 19. I like the pistol. It's accurate and reliable and easy to maintain. Also I own several 45 ACP pistols, but I like the 9mm. I'm accurate with it and it's easy to shoot. My department issues the Federal HST round. 9mm 124 gr +P JHP and the 45 ACP 230 gr +P JHP. We've had a couple officer involved shooting in the ten years since we went to Glock and the officers who had to shoot are still here. What more can I say.

Also the transition training for the officers was very easy. The Glock is an easy pistol to teach people. We've had no AD's since we went to Glock.


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