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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Homer]
      #273645 - 20/11/15 03:52 PM

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Double Action Only (DAO) pistols are not very popular in IPSC etc comps.




I don't think I mentioned a double action ONLY handgun at all. Wouldn't even look at one.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #273646 - 20/11/15 04:07 PM

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Thanks JB.

I'm still trying out various handguns. I didn't get to the range for months, and am NOW (corrected) trying to make up for it.

I was going to ask about SIG's and I see you mention one model. I know they are not cheaply priced. But how do people find them?

I know one of the other members has a Walther. But a number of people advised against them? People always have their personal preferences.

I am inclinded strongly towards a double action semi auto. As wouldn't this be 'safer' and quicker when drawing a handgun from a holster with a round in the chamber?




John

I do NOT compete in handgun matches..but do have or have shot most of what has been discussed. I personally own 4 or 5 sigs..very well made and very reliable..my one complaint on them is they sit high in the hand..too high really for my liking for fast target acquisition ..agree with what most on here have said with the 1911 models..again have several of these in various makes..nothing in my mind fits my hand like a nice 1911..and many are now making them in 9mm along with 45acp. If it were me that is the way I would go..as to safety, they are as safe as any of them IMHO

I also have H&K's, tried the new Walther PPQ (nice gun) and have several glocks and springfied armory pistols as well..all nice but still like the 1911 the best and my go to gun for concealed carry.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Homer]
      #273659 - 20/11/15 05:06 PM

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John (and others), as I have mentioned above, you have my email address, if you have any questions.

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I know your offer is kind but I've got hands on advice by expert covered, almost anyway. he he.




(PS JB, certainly will give you a call on it at the right time. Thanks. )

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #273680 - 21/11/15 01:35 AM

Looks like she is using a Beretta and inside the waist band holsters..

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Ripp]
      #273917 - 24/11/15 07:01 PM

G'Day Fella's,

No probs John!

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And Lucky Pistol, that Beretta is hey!!!

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Homer]
      #279833 - 25/03/16 11:55 PM

Will have to give JB-Homer a call.

I am considering a CZ 75 or a CZ 85 in 9mm as a first handgun.

For competition (informal) at the indoor range / association I belong to. And also when I join an IPSC club nearby. Have tried one a fair amount and like it.

Question 1 - what are the differences/good points or bad points between the 75 and the 85?



Something I am also considering is to purchase a barrel/frame/magazine setup (etc) for .22 RF through the same handgun. I like the idea of being able to practice cheaply and an easy way to get a .22 RF handgun without paying the full price and having to wait a year for another permit to acquire.



Question 2. Is this stupid or wise?



I also like the STI Trojan at the club. BUT I am hoping we can get greater than .38 handguns approved for IPSC competition in SA (as they are in Vic and elsewhere). If so I would look at a .40 S&W or >45 ACP in something like the STI. As a second future handgun.

Comments anyone and any pf the above or other advice.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #279835 - 26/03/16 12:31 AM

I have NO experience with the CZ handguns...I have numerous handguns in Kimber, Sig, Colt, Glock and S&W...of all, I like the Kimbers the best...all of mine are in either .45 or 10mm..great carry guns, very accurate..etc...

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Ripp]
      #279848 - 26/03/16 05:35 AM

Some of the guys here use the CZ's when shooting 9mm. One of them, don't know the model is apparently almost competitive right out of the box.

Today, IPSC pretty much demands a race gun. I made "A" back in the late 70's with a stock 1911 nickel plated Colt.
In the 80's I bought my own on which I mounted Millet sights, changed out the barrel to a Wilson match bl., numerous links for perfect lockup and ported the barrel and slide. That's it and THEN, was all I needed. today, I doubt very much that I could be competitive.

IDPA is the new and upcoming handgun sport - back to natural combat course where use of your body's concealment as well as concealed carry is worth more than all the fancy space-age-stuff.

I've yet to try IDPA, but want to do it this summer at our local range, where I can use my Colt Police Positive .38 SPL and 4" M29 with ".44 Special" loads and be competitive.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: DarylS]
      #279869 - 26/03/16 12:04 PM

Thanks Daryl and Art

I'm not too worried about being a top competitor. We need to target shoot to own a handgun and also can only use them legally on a range. Just looking to have fun doing some shooting. And IPSC looks more interesting, at least the last time I attended a shoot, than boring shooting at static targets. Which so far is fine with me, handguns and in fact any range shooting being largely "new" to me.

It will get old eventually.

The indoor club I belong to, has rather informal competition. Just book and shoot a session. Can book two sessions in a day. weekdays, evenings or day times, depneding on the day. Need six to remain legal per year. So not that hard. Some fun shooting when I am down in the city.

There is an IPSC club in my district, about a half hour drive away, and always been interested in that. Except turning up to Saturday shoots and wasting a good weekend.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #279876 - 26/03/16 01:01 PM

Check out this video until the end ...

https://web.facebook.com/blackflagtac/videos/833015286772441/

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #279887 - 26/03/16 08:46 PM

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Check out this video until the end ...

https://web.facebook.com/blackflagtac/videos/833015286772441/




Bloody moron, he could have gotten shot so easily. Safety is always no 1.

John,
There are 22-lr kits for SIG's (called Mosquito) and a number of 1911 guns.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Yochanan]
      #279890 - 26/03/16 11:25 PM

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Quote:

Check out this video until the end ...

https://web.facebook.com/blackflagtac/videos/833015286772441/




Bloody moron, he could have gotten shot so easily. Safety is always no 1.

John,
There are 22-lr kits for SIG's (called Mosquito) and a number of 1911 guns.




yes..I know they are made for Kimbers as well..

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Ripp]
      #279897 - 27/03/16 03:06 AM

Holy crap!

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #279921 - 27/03/16 01:15 PM

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Thanks Daryl and Art

. Just looking to have fun doing some shooting.




Have you had a look at SA or Cowboy?

Its a lot of fun different shoots and ties in pistol, rifle and shotgun. How can that not be fun?

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: TonyD227]
      #279935 - 28/03/16 04:38 AM

I know it's been a long time due the hand gun ban here in the UK but when I was shooting Practical Pistol my pitol was a Tanfoglio Ultra in .41AE.

The Tanfoglio Ultra was based on the CZ75 and yes the CZ75 is a good reliable pistol. On my Ultra I had to replace the take down latch as it broke but then I was shooting a lot of ammunition in testing and practice. Running through 300-500 rounds was not that uncommon on a range trip. Just looking at Tanfoglios web site I see the range has changed some but they still do a lot of competition based models.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Brithunter]
      #279940 - 28/03/16 06:21 AM

Locally here, the 'boys' are starting up Cowboy Action Shooting. They're having a lot of fun, but that sport can be expensive.

Let's see:

2 single action revolvers
Period lever of pump action rifle
SXS hammer shotgun (hammers not mandatory)

That's bare minimum.

plus, for those inclined:

2 - cap and ball revolvers
Sharps or rolling block for long range side bet challenges
Lever gun or two or three for side bets,
such as:

Henry, Model 66, Model 73, Model 76, Model 86

It adds up when you go overboard, considering a good (Uberti) 1876 is almost $2,000.00. The others only a little less and the 86 is more, if you can find one.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: DarylS]
      #279949 - 28/03/16 08:36 AM

Your not wrong Daryl, but what else is money for?

I got a Uberti 1866 in 38spcl for $1700 a Stoeger SxS coachgun for $650 and I have two Uberti El Patrons on order for $1800.

Unfortunately now I also have to buy a Pedersoli Sharps Boss for $2300. Yes, "have to"!

The good thing though is everyone is very friendly and helpful.

When I started people lent me rifles and pistols while I decided what I wanted.

Its fun shooting with just enough competition to make you want to do better, but not at the expense of having fun.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: TonyD227]
      #280099 - 01/04/16 10:13 AM

G'Day Fella's,

John, have a gander at the CZ "Tactical Sports" model pistol!
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-tactical-sport-9mm-dual-tone-20-rd-mags/
That will probably be my next 9mm!!!

Also John, you can own BOTH a CZ and a STI 1911 pistol!!! ...... and then you will also need a nice centrefire Revolver and a .22LR Semi-Auto pistol as well!!!

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: TonyD227]
      #280237 - 03/04/16 09:19 PM

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Apologies for the highjack Nitrox




One of the advantages of being an admin is cutting off off topic posts ...

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: DarylS]
      #280240 - 03/04/16 09:28 PM

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Locally here, the 'boys' are starting up Cowboy Action Shooting. They're having a lot of fun, but that sport can be expensive.





Maybe in the future but for every new club I join I would have to attend at least four or six shoots every year ... way too much paper punching for me at the moment.Cowboy action might be of interest sometime in the future but not at the moment. Looking for constructive replies on IPSC handguns. Simple basic semi-auto handguns. maybe with some specialist frills, possibly better sights. Not Glocks, I don't like them and even for my basic skills aren't very accurate.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: Homer]
      #280241 - 03/04/16 09:37 PM

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G'Day Fella's,

John, have a gander at the CZ "Tactical Sports" model pistol!
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-75-tactical-sport-9mm-dual-tone-20-rd-mags/
That will probably be my next 9mm!!!

Also John, you can own BOTH a CZ and a STI 1911 pistol!!! ...... and then you will also need a nice centrefire Revolver and a .22LR Semi-Auto pistol as well!!!

LOL!
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Thanks. Look interesting.

Hopefully I will be able to get to the SHOT show thus year and hopefully the distributors of various brands will be there with a variety of handguns to have a look at. CZ was at the last show I went to.

I do intend to have something like an STI in the future. As previously said hoping we can get the .38 and lower restrictions in SA changed in the National Agreement for IPSC as it was a request made to the SA Police. As some other states allow them already. Then a .40 S&W or .46 ACP will be on the cards. If not something like the .38 Super.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #280366 - 05/04/16 05:06 PM

G'Day Fella's,

Never a problem John, any time I can be of assistance!

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: NitroX]
      #280762 - 12/04/16 09:22 AM

I had a CZ 75 9mm for many years, I shot service match with it when there was only one service match and it was a great little gun, I should have kept it.

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: iomskp]
      #280764 - 12/04/16 09:36 AM

John - when I first started IPSC back in the 70's, before it turned into a race-gun event, a person could compete with a model 1911 .45, even a mil. handgun in good shape, new link, bushing and maybe barrel. I made "A" (top 10) with a store bought M1911 nickel plate & factory hardball - 56 shooter event. I still preferred my .44 M29, but B was the best I could do with the wheelgun.

One aspect of cowboy action is they also have a category for M1911's. Maybe something to think about?

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Re: Handgun for IPSC - your thoughts [Re: DarylS]
      #283320 - 03/06/16 05:42 PM

G'Day Fella's,

I think I have found my next 9mm IPSC pistol!
I just did a dealer transfer on a Sphinx SDP, Duo Tone pistol, for a local powder burner.

FYI, they were originally based on CZ 75/Tanfoglio type frames but now, they apparently machine their own pistols complete, in Switzerland.
These days, the frames are made from Two pieces, that may be bolted (?) together.
Either way, they are an exceedingly impressive made pistol, with minimal tight tolerances.........and I forgot to mention, Expensive!

FYI. Enjoy!
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=sphin...AQILA&dpr=1

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