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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #255284 - 16/10/14 11:02 PM

I think Marrakai or another Territorian posted he used to have one, or still does???

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      #255300 - 17/10/14 12:51 AM



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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #255301 - 17/10/14 12:53 AM



A rare Webley Mk VI .22 RF chambered revolver, factory made on a .455 frame.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #255317 - 17/10/14 03:09 AM

I had an old "civilian" Mk III in 32 in India. Beautifully machined - it must have taken hours and hours more to build one than to build one of the solid frame revolvers that Colt and S&W made. I am not sure that it was an entirely worthwhile effort, though. The Webleys had a reputation for losing accuracy over time. I didn't have to worry about that as I sold mine, but I can see where the Webleys have historical value and are not made anymore except by the Indians. India makes the design with a Titanium alloy these days:

Article Link courtesy the Times of India.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #255395 - 17/10/14 10:18 PM

Interesting Mehul. Thanks for sharing the information.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #255815 - 27/10/14 10:34 PM

Gentlemen,

What do you think of the Webley look to a revolver?

I think it is a little archaic. But also very fitting accompanied with a double or classicly styled rifle or shotgun.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #256135 - 31/10/14 10:25 PM

It's certainly not graceful.

We in the U.S. are accustomed to looking at the wonderful works of Sam Colt and of Smith & Wesson. I am a huge fan of Smith & Wesson.

I have never had the opportunity to own a Webley but often have wanted a nice Mk VI in its original chamber of .455 Mk II. I have never fired one either.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: CptCurl]
      #256151 - 01/11/14 01:25 AM

Can you imagine 9 x purdey guns .600 .500 .375 .303 .300 .5.6x52 .22 .10b .28b. Then compliment the battery with a pair of modern webleys in .357 revolvers for the coup de grace.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Ahmed577]
      #256160 - 01/11/14 03:26 AM

Archaic design, outclassed by any DA American gun of like size - however, it is perfectly functional and just fine as it is. If set up for full moon clips & .45 Auto cases, a good combat piece as well. Not bad stock, either. I remember one that was done, years ago, for the ACP ctg. and 1/2 moon clips.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Daryl_S]
      #256168 - 01/11/14 07:23 AM

I like the looks very much, especially the standard service model. There's a nice shot of a group of Webleys on www.hallowellco.com in the historical gallery. I have never owned or fired one but have several S&W revolvers in .455 and like the cartridge as well.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Ahmed577]
      #256495 - 10/11/14 08:56 AM

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Can you imagine 9 x purdey guns .600 .500 .375 .303 .300 .5.6x52 .22 .10b .28b. Then compliment the battery with a pair of modern webleys in .357 revolvers for the coup de grace.




Mate I CAN imagine that.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #257190 - 25/11/14 05:32 PM

Managed to take off some video clips from Pink Floyd's "The Wall" DVD then stills from the clips where a 455 Webley VI featured, first three photos showing the revolver being rod cleaned while in a trench bunker, next three photos when young "Pink" found a box of ammo in his fathers war belongings and next two photos where he hands out ammo to put on the railway tracks to explode as the train passes over.

Bit of a continuity issue with the movie as the ammo in the packet Pink discovered when home alone is the military hard ball whereas supposedly the same packet he has down at the railway tracks seems to have lead projectiles!!










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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: eagle27]
      #257276 - 28/11/14 09:16 AM

Cool! Thanks for posting.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #257321 - 29/11/14 12:57 AM

I can make those MkII Manstoppers:





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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: CptCurl]
      #257504 - 04/12/14 02:14 PM

I've kind of wanted a 455 Webley - just because. Stopped at a local gun shop and low and behold
there was one in really decent shape and priced right, I am rather cheap. Anyway I'll be bringing
it home soon. Will post some more details then & maybe a few pics. Next step is to acquire some
ammo., might need a bit of assistance in that endeavor. --- John


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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: John303]
      #257525 - 05/12/14 07:34 AM

Did the paper work today so will have it soon. I'm pleased to say the least, it's an all original
MkVI with its original holster. Three small notches on the handle to boot. Is there a way to trace
it back to the original "user" via serial #?, any records laying around? --- John


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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: John303]
      #261846 - 07/03/15 05:08 AM

BTTT

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: NitroX]
      #261871 - 07/03/15 01:52 PM

I have another .455 Mk.II on the way. A S&W Triple Lock. It was a frame intended for the .44 Spl. but diverted to the .455 production, as demonstrated by the serial number. Alas, it never went to war but was sold commercially. I haven't seen it or had it in hand. I'm anxious to see it. Hopefully in the coming week.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: CptCurl]
      #261874 - 07/03/15 04:20 PM

Way to do 303 - well done. If I can help, just ask.
I suspect .45ACP dies will work just fine.

All this reminded me of the 1917 Colt parts I was supposed to send to Dan Pharris - action parts and a .44SPL cylinder.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Daryl_S]
      #261876 - 07/03/15 06:44 PM

understand the webley is being remade in a airgun version interesting

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
      #261888 - 08/03/15 01:45 AM

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understand the webley is being remade in a airgun version interesting

greenshoots




Who is making these? Just interested.

I will put up a couple of marketing graphics for the Anderson Wheeler Mk VII which will be available in .357 Magnum.

I have seen a couple photographs of the actual handgun, but they have not released them for public viewing yet. You may well see photos and information on the AW Mk VII here on NE first, if we are lucky. The handguns will be released in May, I know some have already been ordered here for Australia. (not me unfortunately!)

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: Daryl_S]
      #261890 - 08/03/15 07:18 AM

Quote:

Way to do 303 - well done. If I can help, just ask.
I suspect .45ACP dies will work just fine.

All this reminded me of the 1917 Colt parts I was supposed to send to Dan Pharris - action parts and a .44SPL cylinder.




45 ACP dies are all I used to load for my Webley .455. They work perfectly. The three die set does everything needed on the .455 case.

My Webley slugged at .452" so it handled any of the commonly available handgun 45cal projectiles giving good accuracy with all. The 200gr Speer "flying ashtray" bullet was a favourite jacketed bullet for me, also shot a lot of cheap Winchester 185gr FMJ "Keith" profiled bullets I came across and my own 250gr cast were great. If you have access to a small lathe it is simple to thin the rims and cut to length 45 Long Colt cases which last a lifetime in the 455 Webley. Unique powder is the one to use with all bullets in the Webley.

BTW the shell holder I used was one for the 303 British which fits the rim diameter of the Webley case but just needs a shim cutting out to fit in the shell holder to take up the 'slack' due to the thin Webley rim.

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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: eagle27]
      #261920 - 08/03/15 06:53 PM


http://www.gunstar.co.uk/webley-webley-s...Air-Guns/747463



looks rather nice


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Re: Handgun of the Empire [Re: greenshoots]
      #261932 - 09/03/15 05:02 AM

I had a Webley service 455 mark 6 prior to the handgun ban in the UK but have to confess the smith and wesson 625.2 with the five inch barrel and full moon clips in .45 ACP was easier to shoot and more accurate due to the lighter trigger pull and clean being stainless steel HOWEVER there was something of Empire and braver men that made me enjoy the Webley much more.

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