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New VERNEY-CARRON 470
      #183723 - 15/06/11 09:17 AM

Some pictures from the factory;










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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #183724 - 15/06/11 09:20 AM

Very nice indeed. Superb lines to the reinforcing, nice strap over comb.

The only think I don't like, and it is very minor
is the tear drop shape on the stock, looks to me
at the wrong angle / shape.

But overall a beauty.

Edited by NitroX (28/10/11 07:36 PM)


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #183725 - 15/06/11 09:28 AM

Is that yours Adam ? Very nice. Now to kill something with it when it arrives.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: tophet1]
      #183726 - 15/06/11 09:49 AM

You have some fine firearms already Adam and this will only raise the bar further.

No doubt we will see it drapped cross Elephant,Buffalo,Lion and other sundries which I look forward to.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: FATBOY404]
      #183727 - 15/06/11 10:07 AM

Adam, marvellous work but a single trigger?

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: kamilaroi]
      #183728 - 15/06/11 10:20 AM

Quote:

Adam, marvellous work but a single trigger?




Looks to have two triggers to me........




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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: HuntingSchneider]
      #183729 - 15/06/11 10:26 AM

Hi Adam,

That is very nice indeed. Did you get it via the same guy that Matt Graham got his from?? and when is the BIG day.?

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: HuntingSchneider]
      #183730 - 15/06/11 10:37 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Adam, marvellous work but a single trigger?




Looks to have two triggers to me........




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My bad. Old age and eyesight y'know.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #183735 - 15/06/11 11:09 AM

ozhunter,

Fantastic rifle! Congratulations on its acquisition and advance congratulations ahead of some great hunting!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #183739 - 15/06/11 11:46 AM

Nice rifle. Congratulations!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: CptCurl]
      #183745 - 15/06/11 01:38 PM

Adam,

Great looking DR, I especially like the rounded action, can't wait to see it in the flesh.


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Rigby350]
      #183755 - 15/06/11 04:23 PM

It was to be ready towards the end of this month but as it was just to close to Safari dates I asked them to hold off on delivery until I get back. Will take the 458 and 9.3 this season.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #183756 - 15/06/11 05:03 PM

Good stuff, Adam!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Ben]
      #183763 - 15/06/11 05:57 PM

V. nice Adam, I like the extended top strap too, best

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #183773 - 15/06/11 07:42 PM

Nice Adam. Looking forward to see how it shoots for you.

Will it be ready for your annual trip to Mozambique or other exotic parts of Africa?

I like the factory engraving job too, but the photos are a bit indistinct.

Did you buy it through Ken - Verney-Carron USA?

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: NitroX]
      #183782 - 15/06/11 08:27 PM

Yes, I'm dealing with Ken from Verney-Carron US. So far so good.
Won't be ready for this season's Safari but there's always next year.


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #183959 - 17/06/11 06:24 AM

Nice, indeed. Some very best modern double rifles come out of France; I love them.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: doubleriflejack]
      #184311 - 22/06/11 05:01 AM

Adam
Very nice !!! I love the top strap, difficult to inlet , but oh so worth it ! A real touch of class.
The French are certainly making some fine guns.
Congratulations,
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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: 500Nitro]
      #184432 - 23/06/11 02:30 PM

Quote:



The only think I don't like, and it is very minor
is the tear drop shape on the stock, looks to me
at the wrong angle / shape.




You're canting your head!!


Lookin good Ozhunter.... looking good!!! Still trying to find time to go slam something with my VC... must be patient. I'm thinking scrub bull....

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Matt_Graham]
      #190299 - 20/09/11 07:43 PM

Permits and payments complete and ready for shipment.










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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #190302 - 20/09/11 08:14 PM

Sweet!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Ben]
      #190308 - 20/09/11 08:36 PM

Thanks for the additional photos. Very nice.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: NitroX]
      #190310 - 20/09/11 09:02 PM

That's a mighty pretty double rifle, looking forward to seeing it.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #190311 - 20/09/11 09:06 PM

Eish - beaut - congrats

Tho just a thought of handling it over to the chaps at SAA on the flight from JBG to HRE and back gives me creeps

Still - I wish it will travel and serve you well!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: 93mouse]
      #190313 - 20/09/11 09:11 PM

Hi Adam,

That is a very tastefully done Double Rifle. I hope that it will give you years of pleasure.

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #190551 - 23/09/11 10:58 AM

BEAUTIFUL!

Looking forward to to hearing how it shoots, fits and feels!

Good luck,

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ccmdoc]
      #192293 - 22/10/11 10:44 AM

Picked it up from my local dealer yesterday (MAGNUM SPORTS, Syd).


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #192295 - 22/10/11 11:11 AM

Look forward to seeing it laying over some mountain pigs first than an Ele/Buff/lion or anything else that takes your fancy.

Beautiful rifle,well done.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: FATBOY404]
      #192300 - 22/10/11 01:03 PM

Ahh, you know the plan. It took a lot of will power not to load the Toyota this AM and head up for a hunt.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #192304 - 22/10/11 02:12 PM

A happy day, indeed!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Ben]
      #192312 - 22/10/11 05:08 PM

Well done Adam, it was worth the wait for sure. Now to plan the next hunt,

Cheers,

Jeff Gray

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #192313 - 22/10/11 05:56 PM

Quote:

Ahh, you know the plan. It took a lot of will power not to load the Toyota this AM and head up for a hunt.




well IMO you should let go

Does she have a name yet - anyway - Congrats!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: 93mouse]
      #192314 - 22/10/11 06:04 PM

Adam, cracking double, congratulation, looking forward to seeing how it shoots.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Rigby350]
      #192315 - 22/10/11 06:11 PM

You'll do it proud!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #192332 - 22/10/11 11:04 PM

Thank god you got the splinter style for-end.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: bonanza]
      #192353 - 23/10/11 06:08 AM

Very Nice! It should serve you well for many years!
Congratulations!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #192586 - 27/10/11 01:44 AM

Quote:

Picked it up from my local dealer yesterday (MAGNUM SPORTS, Syd).





Good stuff Adam.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: NitroX]
      #192797 - 30/10/11 10:36 PM

Took the V-C out for a walk this weekend and although I didn't shoot anything with it I did use it on a follow up of a big Boar that a mate wounded with his 9.3.
I tracked it down into a valley through some awfully thick bush (hands & knees stuff) until loosing the small amounts of blood and prints due to other spoor and rain. Its quite a comfortable rifle to carry and now for next weekend to see how it shoots.


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #193657 - 12/11/11 06:21 PM

Three Verney-Carron's, one Famars and one Sabati;

470, 470, 450, 470 and 500

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #193658 - 12/11/11 06:40 PM

Mighty fine looking doubles, especially that FAMARS (A&S).

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Rigby350]
      #193662 - 12/11/11 07:16 PM

Will put them to the test tomorrow mate.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #193670 - 12/11/11 11:37 PM

An impressive line up. Looking forward to seeing the results.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: NitroX]
      #193686 - 13/11/11 08:04 AM

Ozhunter, thats a really nice looking DR you got in your hands. Staffan

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Sville]
      #193689 - 13/11/11 08:27 AM

The grip on the FAMARS appears nicely laid out.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: kamilaroi]
      #193722 - 13/11/11 10:49 PM

Some good fast off hand shooting with the A&S Famars;


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #193730 - 14/11/11 12:08 AM

Quote:

Three Verney-Carron's, one Famars and one Sabati;

470, 470, 450, 470 and 500






Nice lineup!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: CptCurl]
      #193864 - 16/11/11 10:40 AM

+ 100 to the beautiful lineup comment!

Good hunting!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: mehulkamdar]
      #219556 - 13/11/12 07:05 PM

Finally able to put it to use.
I shot this old Sow on last light with the help of the fold over night sight.




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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #219718 - 17/11/12 01:43 AM

Great stuff!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #220437 - 28/11/12 05:59 PM

It is my firm belief that Verney-Carron are the best kept secret in quality double rifles. Very nice smoke pole Monsieur.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #220441 - 28/11/12 06:20 PM

Is there any particular reason that the targets are so high off the ground?

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: gryphon]
      #220459 - 28/11/12 11:57 PM

Not particularly, other than it easier to install at this hight and the targets of these big bore rifles often stand at this hight.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #222526 - 30/12/12 04:32 AM

Quote:

Three Verney-Carron's, one Famars and one Sabati;

470, 470, 450, 470 and 500




Congratulations on a very fine double!

I was just wondering on the different finishes on the rifles in the picture:

First one has a curved line between receiver and wood, but has a "clean" receiver otherwise. Is it the PH of today?

The second one I persume is Adams excellent double? I really like the straight line between the receiver and wood. Likewise the spliter for end.
The receiver however is different from the others. Are the others the more "english style" they also offer?

Does anyone have pictures of these rifles closer up, perhaps describing which "extras" they have compared to the Azur PH currently made?

If I choose to put in an order for one, I´d like it to be "english" in the receiver, preferably straight line between the receiver and wood, along with a splinter forend.

I would very much appreciate some feedback on this.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Bonde]
      #222547 - 30/12/12 10:44 AM

bonde-I will try and help, all the V-C guns are made to order so you can get the receiver with or without a scallop, you also have a choice of splinter or semi-beavertail forearm, same with the grip angle, barrel length, sights, engraving, etc.
Talk to your local importer and he should be able to help with your questions.
A couple of pdf catalogs can be seen at verney-carron.us

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Kebco]
      #222644 - 31/12/12 03:54 PM

Bonde,
The first one is a Azur PH and like you I prefer the straight back of the action.
I would also look at a shorter splinter fore-end with 24" barrels, reverse checkering on the pistol grip, 70mm drop in heal and in ether 450NE, 470NE or 500NE.


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #222648 - 31/12/12 06:09 PM

Instead of the usual (IMO) nasty Beesley fore end release I'd much prefere a Rigby type lever. (they can't go wrong)

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: kamilaroi]
      #223215 - 09/01/13 10:38 AM

What is the weight on this particular rifle Adam?

Would a .500 reach a manageable weight when it is made to balance nicely with 26" bbl?

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Bonde]
      #223244 - 09/01/13 05:24 PM

Bonde, I ordered it to be 10.25lbs but I have not checked.
Imo, a 500NE needs to weigh in at around 11lbs. they would need to add more lead to the stock to balance it out.


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225077 - 10/02/13 06:22 PM

Had the opportunity to shoot a few round today and fine tuned the sights to my preferred position of "dead on" at 40m off hand.
Like most double riles today, they seem to be set for the "6olclock position" which is a more accurate method but for game hunting I find it not as natural for quick aiming.
Before straight from factory. 6 shots off hand at 60m;

After adjusting v sight.6 shots at 40m off hand (the way this rifle will be used);


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225078 - 10/02/13 07:21 PM

Mighty fine shooting

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Rigby350]
      #225079 - 10/02/13 07:53 PM

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Mighty fine shooting



Happy take it after Jumbo now.
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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225095 - 11/02/13 12:46 PM

Just noticed it, we will have to try shooting in the afternoon and see if we get the opposite effect.

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: kamilaroi]
      #225137 - 12/02/13 06:05 AM

Kamilaroi--
"Instead of the usual (IMO) nasty Beesley fore end release I'd much prefere a Rigby type lever. (they can't go wrong"
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Kamilaroi, Where in the world are you getting the idea that these are Beesley forend releases? Two major releases are usually used on modern doubles, the Anson release, and the Deeley release. The Anson is usually used on sxs, while the Deeley usually used on over/unders, but especially used by German makers today. One was originally designed by Anson, and the other by Deeley, who worked for Westley Richards at the time. The Anson is extremely durable; hardly ever wears to point it won't work correctly, and is the simplest to make and fit to a double, compared to the Deeley release. What you are calling a Rigby release is also very simple in design, and very effective in use, but it wasn't designed originally by Rigby either! If I recall correctly, it was designed by W.C. Scott.


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: doubleriflejack]
      #225893 - 24/02/13 08:12 PM

Out for a walk this morning and shot this small Boar at 50+ meters;


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #225921 - 25/02/13 05:31 AM

Fantastic!!

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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Matabele]
      #227428 - 23/03/13 08:48 PM

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Fantastic!!



Matebele,
Hope to use it in Matebeleland soon!


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #227440 - 24/03/13 01:06 AM





Matebele,
Hope to use it in Matebeleland soon!




Great stuff, good to hear Oz!! I'm sure you're going to love it! When are you heading out, plains game or DG? Please keep us posted on that one.


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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: Matabele]
      #227456 - 24/03/13 11:48 AM

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Matebele,
Hope to use it in Matebeleland soon!




Great stuff, good to hear Oz!! I'm sure you're going to love it! When are you heading out, plains game or DG? Please keep us posted on that one.




Yes I have hunted out of Bulawayo many time and I know I'm going to enjoy it.
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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: ozhunter]
      #235703 - 16/09/13 10:27 PM





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Re: New VERNEY-CARRON 470 [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #235710 - 17/09/13 08:26 AM

Adam, that is a lovely looking rifle.

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