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banzaibird
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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #61272 - 16/08/06 11:21 PM

Well its been a while since I started this thread. The guy who had the rifle had second thoughts on selling it and had backed out of a deal. Anyway to make a long story short he sent it to somebody for evaluation (don't know who) and they told him it would take at least $15,000 to restore it. Thus he was no longer interested in keeping the rifle. I ended up getting it for evan less than we were originally talking about for price.

This will be a long term project for me. Some of the work I'll be able to do myself but some will need to be sent away. Currently I've had the action annealed and it is making its way between a couple of engravers to see first who can and who wants to try to work on the engraving problems. I also think that the little bit of pitting on the right barrel will be able to be covered by adding a bit of engraving to the breech end of the barrels.

Anyway the reason I'm giving the update is that it dawned on me that I had the action annealed for the engravers but when it comes to rehardening I'm not sure what to tell the company. Thus anyone have an idea of the hardness or process that a DR receiver should go through?

Bill

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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #61273 - 16/08/06 11:25 PM

Oh as a follow up. It's a 350 #2. The 400/350 ammo wouldn't even chamber. I shot some original Kynoch ammo and got a group just over 3 inches at 50 meters. I currently am getting some dies made from the fired cases. I also just recently sent off a letter to Paul Roberts with the serial number.

For those that might have wondered.

Bill

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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #61403 - 19/08/06 01:47 AM

Bill:

I figured this would be a No. 2. Dies for the No. 2 are the same as those for the .400/.350. You should be able to get them as standard dies from RCBS.

Did you ever look for the Webley number on it?
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Re: 400/350 [Re: 400NitroExpress]
      #61414 - 19/08/06 08:27 AM

Yep a #2. It said so on the top of the barrel. I must have missed it the first time I had looked at it in my excitement.

Not that I have anything agaisnt RCBS (I have many of their dies) but I really like Redding Dies. For the difference in cost I decided to get custom made to the chambers. I sent 2 fired from each barrel and specified that when I talked with them that it was a double and might vary so all cartridges needed evaluated for the dies.

To tell you the truth I didn't see a number on the bottom rib. Though I didn't look on the hook for a number. I took pictures of the gun but haven't got that roll of filmed developed yet. The gun as I said is currently on a roundabout.

Bill

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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #61511 - 21/08/06 10:15 PM

banzaibird,
What is the bullet weight stamped on the barrel flats, 310gn or 225gn?

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Re: 400/350 [Re: 4seventy]
      #61515 - 21/08/06 11:25 PM

The proof marks read 310. However Kynoch 400-350 ammo with the 310 bullet won't even chamber because the throat isn't long enough.

Bill

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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #61517 - 22/08/06 12:05 AM

Bloody Poms!

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Re: 400/350 [Re: 4seventy]
      #61518 - 22/08/06 12:15 AM

That leads me to a question. How did they proof it for a load that it won't even chamber?

Bill

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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #61519 - 22/08/06 12:43 AM

Precisely.
Then to add insult to injury, Rigby decides to add their own stamping/engraving for a totally different load.

Kinda makes a bit of a mockery of British proof doesn't it?


Edited by 4seventy (22/08/06 07:17 AM)

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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #61536 - 22/08/06 07:22 AM

Bill:

In those days, they didn't use a jacketed bullet for proof. IIRC, they used a lead bullet wrapped in greased paper that would have been heavier than 310 grains.

The Webley number probably isn't on the short rib, it's more likely on the left side of the fore-end loop. If it's a Rigby boxlock, it's a Webley product and the number will be there somewhere. Very, very few Rigby boxlock rifles came from other makers.
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Re: 400/350 [Re: banzaibird]
      #79348 - 25/05/07 03:54 AM

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