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DarylS
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Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls.
      #324734 - 16/02/19 04:48 AM

I just received this from a long time friend:

Daryl, What are the opinions of the boys on the nitro
express sites regarding the French Chapuis double rifles I ask because
the fate of one on gunnutz lies in the balance. mine of course
Weiland claims that these guns are shot regulated.
so, heard anything about them. This is not an African gun, so to speak,
she is chambered in that pantywaist 9.3
any how anything good or bad ?
Bob

I take it he means they are regulated by being shot with factory ammo, not merely aligned as some makers have done.

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: DarylS]
      #324737 - 16/02/19 05:17 AM

Quote:

I just received this from a long time friend:

Daryl, What are the opinions of the boys on the nitro
express sites regarding the French Chapuis double rifles I ask because
the fate of one on gunnutz lies in the balance. mine of course
Weiland claims that these guns are shot regulated.
so, heard anything about them. This is not an African gun, so to speak,
she is chambered in that pantywaist 9.3
any how anything good or bad ?
Bob

I take it he means they are regulated by being shot with factory ammo, not merely aligned as some makers have done.




All I know is what I have read on the net or in magazines.. so, no first hand experience.. looking forward to seeing the responses...

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: Ripp]
      #324738 - 16/02/19 05:59 AM

JJ Perodeau as well as George Caswell of Champlin’s recommend them, I’d say that is as good a reference as any.
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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: 3DogMike]
      #324739 - 16/02/19 07:01 AM

tks Mike - I'll pass that on.

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: DarylS]
      #324741 - 16/02/19 07:13 AM

Daryl, a lot of members at the BGRC here in Australia use them and find them very well made, well balanced, accurate and reliable. Quite a few are in 9.3x74R as well as bigger cartridges.

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #324754 - 16/02/19 12:59 PM

tks MATT.

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: DarylS]
      #324760 - 16/02/19 03:29 PM

Hi Daryl,

I owned one, an African Model in .375H&H and was very accurate if I played my part. It took both my buff's with both dropping to the shot but as is the case, a second follow up shot was given.

More to your point, the finish is first class irrespective of the caliber. Chapuis used to have a video on the making of the firearms on their website and you can see the detail they go to.

Cheers for now Mate,

Jeff



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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: CHAPUISARMES]
      #324761 - 16/02/19 04:52 PM

TKS Jeff- sounds good to me. I will pass on your comments.

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: DarylS]
      #324762 - 17/02/19 12:22 AM

I have only too heard good things about the Chapuis.

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: DarylS]
      #324888 - 19/02/19 11:32 PM

Daryl

I do not own one. I have handled them. I have visited the factory.

As with a lot of makers, there can be different grades, usually cosmetic, with regards to walnut quality, metal work finishes and especially engraving will affect the price a lot.

Out of double rifles, Chapuis is one of the cheaper makers. Most of the rifle seen are more to the base grades of their offerings. I don't know if I have ever seen a higher grade chapuis outside of the factory. By no means an expert however. There are also a small number of cheaper makers, which by reputation are lesser to the Chapuis brand. In the end PRICE is often a determiner of what you are buying. And a determiner to the level/quality and quantity of work put into each unit.

MOST people have reported their rifles are to their expectations. Reasonable accuracy. Reasonable regulation. Regulation can depend on what ammo was sued and also on what conditions were part of the regulation process. Adding a scope to a rifle regulated for open sights may affect it substantially. The rifle if ordered new, should be regulated for such things as the desired sights right from the beginning, and the choice of ammo desired or a completementary choice of ammo desired.

Most people have reported good results.

I know one NE member had a horror story of a rifle, where he also seemed to not get good support from the factory. I don't remember the exact details. And don';t remember any resolution to his problems.

I also know some Chapuis have been reported to me as needing to be reregulated. There may have been reasons for this.

I know one Chapuis rifle was observed by a knowledgeable member of this forum, to have had observable rifling on the outside of the barrels reportedly by the use of mono metal projectiles in the rifle. I personally would not shoot mono metal projectiles in any thin walled rifle, double rifle or multi barrel rifle especially if soldered together. Other brands right up to the most expensive have reportedly been damaged by monometal bullets, so notjust the chapuis. I asked two other DR makers and they claimed it was not a problem for their rifles. I still would not use monometal bullets. Makes life hard if one is in California though.

My personal opinion is functionally I would have no issue in buying a Chapuis if after inspection it was in sound condition and shot according to regulation. Personally I do find some cosmetic aspects of the brand unappealing. This is a personable preference only. Other people love theirs.

If buying an existing rifle, the best advice is to examine it. And if not experienced ask someone knowledgeable to look at it. And especially if possible to shoot it, with the ammo it is supposed to be regulated with, or close to that ammo. And the sights it is supposed to be regulated with.

If the new owner buys a rifle regulated for open sights, then sticks a huge monstrous scope on it, it is pure luck if the rifle will shoot to regulation.

As for the 9.3x74R chambering, it is an excellent choice, and is ideal for Canada, and would handle any of your deer, elk, moose and bear. It is also a relatively mild cartridge for its size and quite easy to shoot.

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Edited by NitroX (19/02/19 11:35 PM)


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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: NitroX]
      #324899 - 20/02/19 01:16 AM

Good Info --thx for posting that John...

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: Ripp]
      #324904 - 20/02/19 03:13 AM

I’ve used a 9.3x74r Merkel double for deer and caribou hunting..... It’s a cartridge that works wonderfully and with a velocity around 2400 fps at the muzzle, it does not produce a tremendous amount of blood shot meat.

Chapuis doubles are not readily available around these parts, but the price point seems to place it near to but maybe slightly better than the Merkel. My personal opinion for or against is not terribly pertinent, not having personally owned one.

It would be interesting to fondle one and to give it a detailed exam with a borescope to see what’s going on inside. Having had several multi barrel Merkels, they all share the same trait of lovely well finished square and cleanly finished rifling but with very rough cut chambers with lots of tool marks.

The Chapuis from what one might deduce from the material available on the Internet, would seem to be regarded as one of the better entry level doubles if one can consider ~$10k entry level.

Edited by Postman (20/02/19 03:19 AM)


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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: Postman]
      #324907 - 20/02/19 06:02 AM

I have learned that friend Bob is a visitor to this forum and has viewed this thread.

My thanks to all who have responded.

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Re: Chapuis SxS in 9.3x74 - Opinions Pls. [Re: DarylS]
      #324990 - 22/02/19 03:41 AM

Daryl

I have owned 3 Chapuis one UGEX and currently have 2 RGEX's in the safe. they are well balanced and all three are very accurate (IE 4 shot group at 50 M that is 2in or better with Swift Aframes, and 2 1/2 with northfork solids)

I have taken everything from Diker to Cape eland, shooting 286 and 300gr Aframes. They both regulate in my rifles at 2350-60 fps

I have owned 16 different doubles and my 9.3 is my favorite double followed by a VC 450/400.


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