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Ahmed577
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H&H 500/465
      #293277 - 06/01/17 11:32 PM

Have rifle s/n 28253 appears little used. Built without bolsters is this a negative. Gun may have been delivered 20 years ? After s/n sequence. Could this have been as a result of popularity of bolsters. Case and gun have largely been in proper storage. One trip to Africa by purchaser in 30s. Gun purchased by Fred. W. Owen of Melbourne Australia. Any thoughts on bolsters. Will try to get mick from Darwin to post photos.

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Huvius
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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #293299 - 07/01/17 05:14 AM

For some reason, many buyers put a premium on the bolstered frames. My assumption is that they are seen as an improvement and add strength to the action. I have never seen an H&H crack though.
I prefer the look of the older non bolstered guns.

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Huvius]
      #293312 - 07/01/17 07:19 AM

The bolstred frame appeared after WW1 if I recall correct.

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: rigbymauser]
      #293325 - 07/01/17 08:51 AM

I've seen quite a few of the bolstered and non bolstered H&H rifles and in my opinion the only one they look right on are 375's.The H&H rifles don't need them and like Huvius,I've never seen a cracked action although I have seen some blown up barrels.
I wouldn't build a sidelock rifle now with bolsters on it as I prefer the the non bolstered look and unless the action body is really light,they are unnecessary.


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #293345 - 07/01/17 02:17 PM

Just trying to sort pics thru new Mac. Well the missus is.........Hopefully soon.

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Ahmed577
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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: 264]
      #293363 - 07/01/17 05:32 PM

Thanks mick.

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #293373 - 07/01/17 09:20 PM

Not liking the new Mac transfer of photos. Heres Ahmeds pics cheers Mick








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Huvius
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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: 264]
      #293398 - 08/01/17 02:41 AM

Lovely!
That is exactly as I would want a Royal.
I suppose it could be possible that H&H had kept this gun for another client whom never took delivery and then eventually resold it to Mr. Owen.
I don't think that the option of getting bolsters would have kept this from selling for 20yrs and you just never know what makers did for clients at the time.
I was shocked to learn that my Westley Richards that was made for the Maharajah of Alwar in 1926 was actually built on an earlier action and renumbered. I should get the ledger page on that gun to see if it was one of his own guns returned for the build. Can't imagine that though as armory space and money were of no concern to him!

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Huvius]
      #293401 - 08/01/17 03:30 AM

Very Nice.I can't imagine anyone not wanting that.

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Pugwash]
      #293406 - 08/01/17 04:48 AM

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Very Nice.I can't imagine anyone not wanting that.




Oh yeah- THAT will do nicely!

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: DarylS]
      #293440 - 08/01/17 09:21 AM

Now that's a nice piece of kit Ahmed577.
she's a beauty all right!


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #293449 - 08/01/17 10:01 AM

That is a beautiful double Ahmed!
Thanks for showing us and thanks Mick for posting the photos.


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: 4seventy]
      #293495 - 09/01/17 12:59 AM

What a beautiful rifle.

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: NitroX]
      #293497 - 09/01/17 01:39 AM

As nice as they come. THAT is my kind of rifle. Enjoy in good health!

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: bouldersmith]
      #293558 - 09/01/17 10:24 PM

It's a lovely rifle. Great condition as said. I wish it were here in Virginia!

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: CptCurl]
      #293714 - 12/01/17 09:47 PM

That is a beautiful rifle! Congratulations.

Built between 1910 and 1914?

Bolstered actions started around 1920. The hand detachable sideplates 1908 of course.

Lovely finish.


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Rockdoc]
      #294559 - 01/02/17 01:20 AM

Lovely!

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MMBA
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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: ozhunter]
      #294653 - 02/02/17 11:11 AM

Another Treat! Thankyou both again!

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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: MMBA]
      #294654 - 02/02/17 11:32 AM

Ahmed,

Would you please detach a sidelock and post of picture of it??

Beautiful rifle............bolsters or not.


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: twobobbwana]
      #294677 - 02/02/17 09:37 PM

Brazier locks?

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Ahmed577
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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Rockdoc]
      #294678 - 03/02/17 12:40 AM

Twobobbana on the hunt at minute. Will do that. I will send picture to Mick to post. Unable sadly to post pictures.

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Watson577
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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #294689 - 03/02/17 09:37 AM

Ahmed,

You have a beautiful rifle there! Thank you for being kind enough to share some photos of it.

Regards,

Jim


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: Watson577]
      #294692 - 03/02/17 10:38 AM

ahmed,

much appreciated.

Happy hunting.


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: twobobbwana]
      #294726 - 04/02/17 01:00 AM

Quote:

Ahmed,

Would you please detach a sidelock and post of picture of it??

Beautiful rifle............bolsters or not.



Heres The pics, cheers Mick


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Re: H&H 500/465 [Re: 264]
      #294844 - 06/02/17 12:17 PM

Thank you Ahmed.

It is a thing of beauty.


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