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The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death..
#103332 - 24/04/08 02:29 AM

I have only seen about 6 or so really nice doubles chambered in this round over the years. The one that sticks in my mind was a Holland & Holland that was offered by Bill Jaqua years ago in Las Vegas. Adorned with deep chisel relief and fighting dinosaurs, cased in a burl walnut chest.. I believe Bob Peterson bought the gun.

The 700 cartridge never gained popularity, and has fell to the wind.. Here’s a nice example by J&L Wilkins that has sat, and sat, and sat with no takers. At 1000 grains,
Muzzle Velocity of 2000 ft/sec, and Energy of 8900 ft/lbs then add 17lbs 6ozs to your pack, and go figure.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ]
#103339 - 24/04/08 04:07 AM

The Question is

What price do they have on it ?

Very nice gun.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103346 - 24/04/08 05:03 AM

If this is one of the two at Cabela's, its been around. Duke at Gulf Breeze had the pair of 700s and a couple of the Wilkes bolts, for a while and then they ended up on consignment at Cabelas in Ft Worth. The bolt sold, but the DRs have been there for a while. I think they are currently at 60K but that's up to the consignor. Wait long enough and who knows. Dave

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103351 - 24/04/08 06:05 AM

Quote:

The Question is

What price do they have on it ?

Very nice gun.

500,

Asking is $59,000.00 down from the original price of $69,000.00

I would think $50,000.00 might work for them by now, considering they have 2 to move..

They had (2) 416 rigby bolt guns, with single square bridge mag mauser actions, and very nice wood. They went the first 60 days on there list at $8,999.00 which is very reasonable for a bespoke London gun. Bob Harvey is the maker for J&L.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ]
#103356 - 24/04/08 06:33 AM

That's not a bad price for a 700 Nitro and
Wilkes isn't a bad maker at all.

Your - or anyone's - thoughts on the guns ?

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103357 - 24/04/08 06:43 AM

Quote:

That's not a bad price for a 700 Nitro and
Wilkes isn't a bad maker at all.

Your - or anyone's - thoughts on the guns ?

I agree 100%, it looks like a very well made rifle and its regulated well at 50 meters. I guess it just comes down to if such a beast really has a niche in your battery. I know I don't need a stick that big..

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103358 - 24/04/08 06:44 AM

500

The Wilkins rifles were made in the UK in the late 1980's and 1990's as a project using that name by Chris Soysa, a lot of the work was done by Bob Harvey although Trevor Proctor of Wilmslow, Cheshire, England did some of the magazine rifles in the white and other aspects of the work were put out to the trade in Birmingham. Chris deals in double rifles as well as having a number of both doubles and magazine rifles made under the Wilkins name, he made a few in .700 but has said he will make no more, probably the for the reason why these two remain for sale after so long.

Chris continues to trade in double rifles, many of which he sources in India and Africa left over from the days of Empire, he has a US outlet for many of these doubles in California.

Wilkes relates to the unrelated and older established London firm of John Wilkes of Beak street which remained a family firm until quite recently when it ceased trading.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: JTOMLINSON]
#103359 - 24/04/08 06:47 AM

JT,

Do you have contact info for Chris Soysa?

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ]
#103362 - 24/04/08 07:11 AM

Sinner

PM sent

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ]
#103363 - 24/04/08 07:11 AM

Deathby600

I can probably get you Chris's contact details if needed.

It may tale a week or 2.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103364 - 24/04/08 07:13 AM

Jonathon

Thanks for that update / info.

Sounds a bit like the "William Douglass" guns !!!

I didn't realise Chris was involved. He is friends with a friend of mine. I Haven't had the pleasure of meeting him yet.

Don't think I need a 700 Nitro !!!

Edited by 500Nitro (24/04/08 07:14 AM)

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103366 - 24/04/08 07:24 AM

I had made an offer on the one that Gulf Breeze fire arms had at $79,000 a couple of years ago for 65,000.00 and they turned me down, since then I have picked up a Searcy 700 and a couple of 4 bores. The 700's are both nice guns, but a very limited market.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103367 - 24/04/08 07:30 AM

Quote:

Deathby600

I can probably get you Chris's contact details if needed.

It may tale a week or 2.

Thanks bro but JT sent them already..

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103368 - 24/04/08 07:33 AM

Quote:

That's not a bad price for a 700 Nitro and
Wilkes isn't a bad maker at all.

Your - or anyone's - thoughts on the guns ?

Sure. Why would you, or anyone else, want them? 17 lbs, 6oz is a lot to lug around, and even so, the recoil will be substantial. Shoot it at the range? Yeah, for how much per round, even if you load yourself.

Next, what are you going to do with it? Does anyone hunt a 700 or, conversely, do you need a 700 to hunt anything that exists? A 470 will do the job just fine on the most dangerous of dangerous game, a 500 NE will add an extra edge, and if you really don't feel that's enough, a 577 NE is lots lighter and the ne plus ultra of real world hunting. And you can get a new build for less or a vintage for this price, and one that will resell a whole lot more quickly.

Really need an extra hunting edge? Find a 600 and still have something more 'moveable' on resale and marginally easier to shoot.

That leaves you with a rifle that is unpleasant and expensive (squared) to shoot, worthless as a practical hunting tool and, as it turns out from the information above, a standard, albeit nicely built, boxlock with a name of a famous but now defunct maker that didn't build it and where a pair of them have been around unsold for at least a year or more.

Accordingly, I would submit that it makes no sense to pay 50 or 60K for a rifle that hasn't been sold and has been all around the circuit for a year or more. Plus when it is time to sell it, don't look for any apprecation nor a sea of ready buyers. Hell, its twin will no doubt be around.

My 2 cents and UMMV. Dave

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: dnovo]
#103370 - 24/04/08 07:42 AM

Good summary Dave.

I am a firm believer that if a gun doesn't sell in a reasonable period, you are better pulling it completely off the market, all adverts, web sites and putting it in a back room. Maybe even take it to the range every so often.

Then re list it 3 months later with new / different photos.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103373 - 24/04/08 07:50 AM

I think the 577 has the best penetration of all the biggies anyway, and at 13lbs is fairly easy to handle. Mammoths have been extinct for some time now, the designer of this round was no doubt a Teradactyl in his last life.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ]
#103375 - 24/04/08 07:58 AM

By designer, you mean
Feldstein, Jim Bell, Russel Wilkins, Geoff McDonald.

I think Feldstein just had to have the biggest !!!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103376 - 24/04/08 08:00 AM

Quote:

By designer, you mean
Feldstein, Jim Bell, Russel Wilkins, Geoff McDonald.

I think Feldstein just had to have the biggest !!!

Yeah I had heard it was all about the BIGNESS.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103377 - 24/04/08 08:06 AM

There must be some market for the big mammoth killers. Two of Ken Owens 4 bore doubles out of the 6 he made have been resold at good prices in the last 3 months. So, though the market is limited, there are people that spend $$$ on the big stuff, weather for hunting or collecting. I like both calibers, but... I am a crazy gun nut, I admit it.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ]
#103378 - 24/04/08 08:09 AM

Quote:

Quote:

By designer, you mean
Feldstein, Jim Bell, Russel Wilkins, Geoff McDonald.

I think Feldstein just had to have the biggest !!!

Yeah I had heard it was all about the BIGNESS.

Well the other 3 who were involved it was a
Commercial thing !!!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103399 - 24/04/08 01:22 PM

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Well the other 3 who were involved it was a
Commercial thing !!!

The motivation was based on greed and shock value- [maybe the later worked] and which can be argued either way. A worthless pursuit in my view given the excellent stopping rounds already long since proven in every corner of the globe. I like a nice 600 though or maybe a 577 is nice and sexy also- those would be my choice for a top stopping round.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#103400 - 24/04/08 01:30 PM

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There must be some market for the big mammoth killers. Two of Ken Owens 4 bore doubles out of the 6 he made have been resold at good prices in the last 3 months. So, though the market is limited, there are people that spend $$$ on the big stuff, weather for hunting or collecting. I like both calibers, but... I am a crazy gun nut, I admit it.

An Owen 4 bore is a desirable item I cant say the same about a 700 nitro. If you have done much dangerous game hunting many times you need to hold the gun on your target for some time- while the animals usually baulk several charges. Even with all your fluids flowing it wipes you out quick with that kind of weight. Then there's the ever so voodooish flinch! Owe the flinch is bad with guns like these- and if you develop one on this gun it carries over sometimes. I drive right bye these big boys when they come up and I think just about everyone else does to giving how long these have been out. Just my thoughts

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: starwars]
#103692 - 27/04/08 03:01 PM

The 2,4,8,10.12 bore rifles have HISTORY!

The 600 NE, 577NE, 500NE, etc. do as well.

The 700 NE does NOT, and NEVER will. It was

not in the game when the history was being

made. It was BF's SECOND choice! When H&H

refused to build a 600 NE for him he became

the driving force behind the 700 Nitro. If H&H

could have/ would have built the 600 NE when

BF originally asked for one none of us would

ever have seen a 700 NE.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: BigFiveJack]
#103700 - 27/04/08 04:19 PM

I would love to have a.700 Nitro....however it would be interest as a collector. The gun is simply TOO big for me to carry around all day. My 14.5 Ibs 10 bore could be "ok" for a limited period of time a la 4-5 hours...but that is it!!!!. In the recoil department the .700 nitro must be stiff!. My 10 bore loaded with 275grain black + 900 grain bullet is about my limit. Flinching is something that no man can control, it just comes. Flinching is where the mind of the shooting really are saying "no good for me" and tries to reject the upcomming action. Its funny to read all kinds of posts on other forums where members are building so powerfull rifles, that braindamage could be the finally outcome. The is a practical limit on guns as far as 1)taking it to a foreign land with ammo 2) developing a solid shootingskill in the field, without a flich 3) carry the rifle for a day in adverse terrain etc etc.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: BigFiveJack]
#103702 - 27/04/08 04:39 PM

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If H&H could have/ would have built the 600 NE when
BF originally asked for one none of us would ever have seen a 700 NE.

100% correct.

And if by chance the three others involved (apart from BF)
had not all been together to sit around a table and draw the initial diamgrams, it may also not have come to pass.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#103730 - 28/04/08 06:01 AM

Would it be reasonable to say that perhaps many would be owners simply wont buy a 700 due to the "awareness" of the substantial boot when she bangs?

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: gryphon]
#103734 - 28/04/08 07:16 AM

I don't know, perhaps it would be a selling point to masochists? Dave

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: dnovo]
#103970 - 01/05/08 11:47 AM

i know of at least two phs that use a 700

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ant458]
#103981 - 01/05/08 12:43 PM

Good for you ant458, I need some help here.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#104056 - 02/05/08 05:36 AM

It's been a while, maybe 15 years or so, but the last price for 700 Nitro ammunition back then was $100 a round IIRC. It is undoubtedly higher now, but I have no idea who loads it. Kynoch maybe? Some of the guys (& gals) that inhabit this and other forums are wealthy beyond my imagination, but at $100+ a pop I suspect even they would get tired of it PDQ. Pilgrim

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: ant458]
#104076 - 02/05/08 10:46 AM

Quote:

i know of at least two phs that use a 700

Who?

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Bramble]
#104142 - 03/05/08 05:48 AM

If you do not reload, it can be expensive, but some ammunition reloading companies will load it for close to 1/2 that price. Still expensive, but better than 100/round.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Bramble]
#104152 - 03/05/08 11:21 AM

Quote:

Quote:

i know of at least two phs that use a 700

Who?

WHO??

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 9.3x57]
#104154 - 03/05/08 12:33 PM

Mark Sulivan used one a bit for a year or so. I think he sold it as I saw it at SCI about 4? years ago?

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#185522 - 10/07/11 12:44 AM

I still have my Searcy 700 doudbe that I purchased 5 1/2 years ago and shoot it regularly. I don't really care if it has a history or not. I like it and enjoy having it. While a limited market, I do not see many for sale. The 2 Wilkens sold and Butch has made several more, one was even done in all stainless steel. Big and heavy, but part of the limiting factor may be the cost for a 700 nitro double. They certainly don't give them away. My 700 is 9 lbs lighter than my 4 bore double, so I guess weight is all relative. I know it is not the most practical gun out there,but I enjoy collecting the big bores and shooting them. Not to everyones liking, buy to some. Now about that 2 bore double cartridge gun ...........

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185524 - 10/07/11 12:52 AM

Bigdog,

Do you load your ammo for the .700NE? If so, I would enjoy hearing details. I see you hail to Southern Illinois. You need to jump on I-64 and head east for a shoot some time. It's not very far to Southern Illinois. I live about 1.5 miles off I-64 at Virgina exit 21.

Dunno if I have anything big enough to interest you. Biggest boomers I have are my .577 BPE and my .500 NE.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: CptCurl]
#185525 - 10/07/11 01:02 AM

I do some reloading on the 700. I use the regulated load for the rifle which is 160 grains of RL 15 and it gets 1996 ft/sec with a 1000 grain bullet. At the moment over the past couple of months, I have not done any shooting, because my arthuritus in both my hands is flaring up. It comes and goes. When things settle down, maybe we can get together and swap lies and shoot a few guns. I always like looking at guns, they do not have to be huge for me to like them.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185526 - 10/07/11 01:03 AM

Captcurl sending pm.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#185553 - 10/07/11 10:56 AM

If you can afford it and that is what you want ,i say why not ? i dont know why some of the negative comments here .Why own a ferrari ? why own a Rolls Royce ? why own a multi million dollar yacht ?because you want one and can afford it ,buy it !!! we have enough ''ANTIs'' telling us we dont need a gun or anything bigger than a 308 ,the 700 is still an interesting gun !

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185555 - 10/07/11 11:04 AM

Bigdog,

A suggestion, my friend - I take six capsules of fish oil every day (two with each meal) and it helps my arthritis. This, of course, in addition to the medicines that my doctor has prescribed for it and the supplements.

Keep shooting and hunting for decades and decades to come!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Boswell]
#185556 - 10/07/11 11:05 AM

500 Boswell,

Some excellent logic here!

Good hunting!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: mehulkamdar]
#185573 - 10/07/11 09:03 PM

Quote:

Bigdog,

A suggestion, my friend - I take six capsules of fish oil every day (two with each meal) and it helps my arthritis. This, of course, in addition to the medicines that my doctor has prescribed for it and the supplements.

Keep shooting and hunting for decades and decades to come!

Mehul and others who might need it:
4 fish oil pills thrice a day is the current, recommended 'load'
Do excuse the OT- Enjoy your shooting!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: eljefedouble]
#185590 - 11/07/11 01:49 AM

Asif,

Thanks, buddy! Will double the dosage of fish oil rightaway. Even half the recommended dose worked wonders for me especially through a particularly hard Chicago winter. I also have a problem with my right kneecap which shattered in a motorcycling accident some years ago and had to be reconstructed. Gives me trouble during cold weather, but the fish oil seems to have helped that too.

Cheers!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: mehulkamdar]
#185593 - 11/07/11 02:13 AM

Guys thanks for the advice on the fish oil. I have it in both hands , one knee and one ankel. It gets really bad at times when I can't hardly pick up a rifle, then sometimes not tood bad. It is amazing how fast it can move around from one joint to another. I am pretty f##ked when it is in both hands at one time. Captkurl, sounds like a plan on the short meeting in Virginia on date sent, look forward to seeing you.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185594 - 11/07/11 03:06 AM

I have a dumb question, what size dose is your pill for taking 4 pills 3 times a day. I have the 1000mg pills, rather large and it says recommended daily dosage is one pill a day. Please let me know the mg size of your pills. thanks a lot.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185595 - 11/07/11 03:13 AM

to clarify The 1000mg is mg of fish oil in each tablet. Each tablet contains 300mg of omega 3 in it.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185598 - 11/07/11 04:28 AM

I would watch the fishoil intake - don't over do it.
One thing I do know is that fishoil makes you bleed like a stuck pig!
I have been in surgeries which had to be bailed out of because of excess bleeding due to fishoil. The main problem for surgeons is that patients think of it as a supplement so don't mention its use pre-op as they would the drugs they are taking.
One more thing to think about while out on the trails. Wouldn't want a normally minor injury to become life threatening through an inability to clot adequately.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Huvius]
#185606 - 11/07/11 06:48 AM

ant458, you know of "at least two PH's who use .700s" ....really !!?? Sullivan might have been paid by someone to carry one for a while in one of his DVDs, I will pay you $100 if you can name a PH in the world who uses one of those monstrosities for real use, it was all an ego thing as Holland will happily tell you, it has no use in the real world, best, Mike

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Mike_Bailey]
#185612 - 11/07/11 09:32 AM

Mike we understand that you don't care for the 700 nitro, but why so confrontational with those of us that like it? My 700 nitro has taken an elephant, though I was not the shooter. If we like it for whatever reason, so what. Thats why they make different guns because people like different stuff. Nobody said that the 700 was the most practical gun on the earth. Then again, you don't really need a 600N or a 500n or a 700 AHR,or a 600 overkill or a 4 bore or a 2 bore to hunt with either, but people like them and some of us think they are pretty cool to own. If you don't, thats certainly your right.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185613 - 11/07/11 09:39 AM

500 boswell, I agree with you 100% People that think it is just ego can stick it and 100.00 if they want too.Some comments just rub me the wrong way!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185614 - 11/07/11 09:44 AM

The original (700 Nitro) might have been an ego exercise but future purchasers, as has been said, do we really need 500's, 600's, 700's ?

Probably not but it's nice owning them.

And I think if you can afford to buy a 700, the cost of shooting is the least of your worries.

I am not a fan of certain calibres, 8mm's, 416 (I'm a 404 fan

), Ex Mil calibres, but that's just my personal preference, nothing more, nothing less. Doesn't mean those that own them are in the wrong, just have a different area of interest.

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Edited by 500Nitro (11/07/11 11:32 AM)

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Huvius]
#185618 - 11/07/11 10:37 AM

Huvius,

I take 6 1000 mg caps a day as I said and my doctor is aware of this. Thanks for your suggestion - I'll be going for my once in 3 months blood tests in two weeks' time and will ask if I should increase the dosage.

Good hunting!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: mehulkamdar]
#185620 - 11/07/11 11:26 AM

+1 with Bigdog and 500Nitro - you have both the Marilyn Monroe and Grace Kelly fans, but the world couldn't do without either, whichever of the two you might be a fan of.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: mehulkamdar]
#185633 - 11/07/11 05:10 PM

sorry Bigdog, didn't mean to rub you up the wrong way, just not my cup of tea, apologies, best, Mike

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185634 - 11/07/11 06:24 PM

Cool thread, nice rifle(s). It's cool that one of our own has one of these kittens! Enjoy, Bigdog!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Ben]
#185649 - 11/07/11 11:55 PM

no sweat Mike, I get a little hot under the collar sometimes and was having a bad day. I open my mouth sometimes just to change my feet!

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: bigdog]
#185654 - 12/07/11 01:04 AM

Read the next issue of Dangerous Game Hunting Magazine. I've got an article in it about the .700 and shooting reduced loads. I've shot a .700 and yeah, it's a bit much. However, I love the gun. Being as how a Gunwriter is the next best thing to Professional Starvation, I have to use my .416 for all the squirrels, woodchucks and elephants I hunt. Check out Nyati.com for info about reduced loads for the big banger.

I shot the .416 with a 300 gr. light load and it is like punching out a .300. Still powerful enough to take any North American animal except Brown Bear.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: poprivit]
#185656 - 12/07/11 02:13 AM

Nyati.com seems to be a tour company site.
Wrong address or what? I didn't see any load data.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: AkMike]
#268427 - 23/07/15 10:49 PM

The site is now http://nyatiinc.com/ and Edward Hammond runs Nyati Inc out of Wisconsin, USA. I've got a set of 10 reduced load .700 NEs from him on the UPS truck en route to me today. Hopefully will have an opportunity to try these out in the next couple of weeks.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Chambered]
#268471 - 24/07/15 03:11 PM

Chambered i'd love to see your .700. I'm thinking of building one for myself at some point

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: 500Nitro]
#317505 - 25/06/18 02:22 AM

Just pinging this one back for current review.
Some good reference material here, and the voices of fellows no longer with us on NE

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: tinker]
#317525 - 25/06/18 06:02 PM

Great topic.

Would love to fire one. Wouldn’t like to carry one

Some not here, for shame, RIP to those that have passed.

Would like to see those that are MIA come back. Some great knowledge there.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Rockdoc]
#317532 - 26/06/18 10:37 AM

In 2007 when Boss agreed to build my guns I requested a 600. They were only prepared to build a 700. Having fired a 700 holland ( courtesy Winks ) it was too much gun for me to fire. I love to carry my guns and although I only fired the 700 I doubt I could carry it. Boss has a new owner who is happy to complete my original order and the 600 is under way. I find the 600 easier to shoot than the 577.

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Re: The 700 Nitro dies a terrible death.. [Re: Ahmed577]
#317533 - 26/06/18 11:59 AM

A .500 NE is the upper limit for me in both recoil and weight. There are some days at the range that I just do not enjoy it after just a few shots. I never even noticed the recoil while hunting though. It could have just as easily been a .308 and I wouldn't have noticed the difference. Everybody is different and what is too much for one is absolutely ok for another.

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