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Considering the quality of some sidelocks, that may be damning with faint praise
I think 'best' quality would be more appropriate. IMHO there's no comparison between a top quality WR detachable lock and pretty much all the other boxlocks, and alot of those are pretty nice too! For me, if I were only to have one DR in my life, I would find it tough to choose between a H&H Royal and a WR detachable lock, but I would probably go with the WR...


I've always had a soft spot for WR because I grew up in the Midlands and know that it has always been the real heart of British industry and manufacturing. Some of the craftsmen there can easily rival anywhere else in the world. Plus, even when I was a kid WR used to go out of their way to reply to my letters and send me information about guns, rifles, hunting and cartridges. Its just a more 'real' and 'down to earth' kind of attitude that you get in that part of the world. No false airs and graces, but huge pride in the quality of workmanship. The only other place that holds similar affection for me is a fishing tackle shop in Perthshire, but that is another story! I have an affection for H&H too, but always feel that their interest in me was much more dependent on how much I spent - a much more 'London' attitude!

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we are planning to go to england (london) for our tenth anniversary, and even now i am trying to figure out how to get to birmingham for a one day excursion (and get the wife to come along)....

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You can bribe her by pointing out how close it is to Stratford-upon-Avon - you know, Shakespeare etc. (actually it is a great visit- river, parks, old buildings...)

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hey y'all--


we are planning to go to england (london) for our tenth anniversary, and even now i am trying to figure out how to get to birmingham for a one day excursion (and get the wife to come along)....

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Is WR even up with the big three in quality of workmanship, fit and finish?

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Not in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong. I am not disparaging Westley Richards or their product. My point is this: WR made guns and rifles that covered the waterfront from basic "beaters" to fairly high end models. WR also made guns and rifles for the trade. But even on the high end the product lacks the overall fit and finish of a Purdey, to say nothing about the design.

If you compare a WR sidelock ejector made to their high standards to a Purdey, the WR is leagues behind. That doesn't mean that the WR is a bad gun. It simply means that WR builds to a different standard. It also sells for considerably less, thus appealing to a different clientele.

Sinner, what say you on the topic?

Curl

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So is it fair to say that WR is comprable to Ruger in the handgun market? Solid, dependable, and more reasonably priced, but not up to the standards of ohhh say Korth revolvers? Or at least the Colt Python or Smith and Wesson's Model 27/29 back in the day? Is this a fair comparison?

Interesting. And even more interesting is that this thread was brought back from the dead.

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Is WR even up with the big three in quality of workmanship, fit and finish?

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Not in my opinion.

Don't get me wrong. I am not disparaging Westley Richards or their product. My point is this: WR made guns and rifles that covered the waterfront from basic "beaters" to fairly high end models. WR also made guns and rifles for the trade. But even on the high end the product lacks the overall fit and finish of a Purdey, to say nothing about the design.

If you compare a WR sidelock ejector made to their high standards to a Purdey, the WR is leagues behind. That doesn't mean that the WR is a bad gun. It simply means that WR builds to a different standard. It also sells for considerably less, thus appealing to a different clientele.

Sinner, what say you on the topic?

Curl

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So is it fair to say that WR is comprable to Ruger in the handgun market? Solid, dependable, and more reasonably priced, but not up to the standards of ohhh say Korth revolvers? Or at least the Colt Python or Smith and Wesson's Model 27/29 back in the day? Is this a fair comparison?

Interesting. And even more interesting is that this thread was brought back from the dead.

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HAD TO RESPOND TO THIS AS I WAS READY TO FAINT READING IT...NO--COMPARING WR TO RUGER IS NOT AN ACCURATE COMPARISON...RUGER IS WHAT IT IS--HAVE SEVERAL MYSELF..THEY SHOOT WHEN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER AND QUITE FRANKLY THAT IS ALL I EXPECT FROM A RUGER..

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Considering the quality of some sidelocks, that may be damning with faint praise
I think 'best' quality would be more appropriate. IMHO there's no comparison between a top quality WR detachable lock and pretty much all the other boxlocks, and alot of those are pretty nice too! For me, if I were only to have one DR in my life, I would find it tough to choose between a H&H Royal and a WR detachable lock, but I would probably go with the WR...


I've always had a soft spot for WR because I grew up in the Midlands and know that it has always been the real heart of British industry and manufacturing. Some of the craftsmen there can easily rival anywhere else in the world. Plus, even when I was a kid WR used to go out of their way to reply to my letters and send me information about guns, rifles, hunting and cartridges. Its just a more 'real' and 'down to earth' kind of attitude that you get in that part of the world. No false airs and graces, but huge pride in the quality of workmanship. The only other place that holds similar affection for me is a fishing tackle shop in Perthshire, but that is another story! I have an affection for H&H too, but always feel that their interest in me was much more dependent on how much I spent - a much more 'London' attitude!

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And even more interesting is that this thread was brought back from the dead.

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sorry for the faux pas-- that was me It is interesting, though...

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How about they moved after the
old WR was raided by the BATF ?

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The above statement needs some clarefication! The problem with the BATF at the Cape Gerdeau, Mo store had nothing to do with Westley Richards, but with an employee in that store! It seems this guy also owned a Pawn shop, and had placed some of his stock in the store, without listing it in their stock, as is the law! This got the store closed, and all the firearms embargoed by the ATF, and hualed to the gov office of the ATF till it was settled. Westley Richards was not at fault, and the ony charges were filed on the employee. W/R moved to Montana, because they were closer to better gun smiths for their type of stock, and with the internet, LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION doesn't count so much as it used to!

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"HAD TO RESPOND TO THIS AS I WAS READY TO FAINT READING IT...NO--COMPARING WR TO RUGER IS NOT AN ACCURATE COMPARISON...RUGER IS WHAT IT IS--HAVE SEVERAL MYSELF..THEY SHOOT WHEN YOU PULL THE TRIGGER AND QUITE FRANKLY THAT IS ALL I EXPECT FROM A RUGER."

RIPP


Calm down. I was making something of a joke about it as well. Don't have to yell at me. I know that Ruger isn't comprable to an English double rifle maker. By the way I'm still joking around. Honestly.

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