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Ron_Vella
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Bison with double rifle
#274402 - 02/12/15 01:11 PM

Hello all. I've just returned from a hunt for wild bison, about 200 miles north-west of Fort Saint John, British Columbia. A great camp, good guides, beautiful snow-covered Rockies, and saw lots of game, including a wolverine on day one. Attached is a photo of a four-year-old bull that I took at about 120 yards with my self-built double rifle in calibre .450 #2 Nitro Express. GREAT STUFF!!!

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crshelton
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Ron_Vella]
#274403 - 02/12/15 01:15 PM

Good show! Nothing easy about hunting in deep snow.

What was the load(bullet at fps) for that hunt?

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Ron_Vella
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: crshelton]
#274404 - 02/12/15 01:22 PM

My lighter, longer-range load which basically duplicates a hot .45-70: 350 grain Hornady RNSP at 2280 fps.

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stug
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Ron_Vella]
#274405 - 02/12/15 02:11 PM

Good stuff, your rifle looks a dandy!

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4seventy
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Ron_Vella]
#274406 - 02/12/15 02:40 PM

Well done Ron! That's a great photo.
A fine trophy Bison taken with a great cartridge in a double that you built yourself.
Awesome!

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DarylS
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: 4seventy]
#274411 - 02/12/15 04:38 PM

That's great, Ron- wish I knew you were in the neighbourhood! Well done.

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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: DarylS]
#274417 - 02/12/15 07:13 PM

Really a great photo, looks like a nice place to hunt!

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crkennedy1
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Sville]
#274426 - 02/12/15 11:24 PM

Ron, congratulations on your successful hunt! It sounds like your trusty double did its part too. In October I had the opportunity to take my daughter bison hunting in eastern Wyoming. Here's a pic of my cutie with a two year old cow that she shot at 185 yards using her brother's Remington 770, chambered in .30-06.

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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: crkennedy1]
#274435 - 03/12/15 04:25 AM

double rifle looks realy good, must be special to build such a low power load in the big No. 2 case. do you use foam filler?

waidmannsheil for the bison!

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Ron_Vella
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: lancaster]
#274440 - 03/12/15 06:30 AM

Lancaster, I use Dacron fibre as a filling under both the 350 and the 500 grain bullets.

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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Ron_Vella]
#274444 - 03/12/15 07:51 AM

Fantastic Ron, well done!! How did that bullet combo perform out of interest, was it recovered? Did the bull drop to your shot?

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crshelton
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Matabele]
#274453 - 03/12/15 09:46 AM

"My lighter, longer-range load which basically duplicates a hot .45-70: 350 grain Hornady RNSP at 2280 fps."

That is a hot load for a 45-70!

I took my bison with my 1886 .45-90 using left over DG loads; 450 grain Kodiak FMJ with flat nose at 2150 fps. It shot clean through both shoulders and was over-kill, but I was my first bison so I used ammo that I knew would be effective.

BTW, Very nice looking double rifle.

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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: crshelton]
#274458 - 03/12/15 10:33 AM

Ron,
Very nice job on the rifle and the buffalo! I'm sure you had lots of fun doing that hunt. I am currently working on getting the parts and loading stuff together to build a .450 #2 N.E. I am going to send you a P.M. along with a couple of questions. Thanks for posting this hunt, you made my day.
Bob

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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Birdhunter50]
#274468 - 03/12/15 04:23 PM

Nice work.

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DarylS
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: crshelton]
#274473 - 03/12/15 08:15 PM

Quote:

"My lighter, longer-range load which basically duplicates a hot .45-70: 350 grain Hornady RNSP at 2280 fps."

That is a hot load for a 45-70!

I took my bison with my 1886 .45-90 using left over DG loads; 450 grain Kodiak FMJ with flat nose at 2150 fps. It shot clean through both shoulders and was over-kill, but I was my first bison so I used ammo that I knew would be effective.

BTW, Very nice looking double rifle.

You are right, in that it is not a load for trapdoor Springfields or Lever Action rifles - however it is a normal load for bolt Siamese mauser actions and modern single shots like the Ruger #1 and Browning M78. A LOT depends on the throat & it's length, as well.

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gwh
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: DarylS]
#274477 - 03/12/15 09:47 PM

Great work, nice looking rifle!

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Ron_Vella
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: gwh]
#274486 - 04/12/15 04:44 AM

Daryl,
Unfortunately many shooters do not understand that there are three acceptable loading levels for the old .45-70, one for Trapdoor Springfield types, one for 1886 types, and one for Ruger #1 types. Obviously, shooting the latter in the former will almost certainly have catastrophic results!!!!

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DarylS
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Re: Bison with double rifle [Re: Ron_Vella]
#274487 - 04/12/15 04:54 AM

So true, however loading manuals have spoken of this since the 60's, where there was a segregation between Trapdoor-type loads and loads for the Model 1886 Winchester - see Hodgdon's #21 loading manual form the 60's, which I still have, of course. It is the one I started with.

Your 350gr. @ 2,260fps must have been fairly moderate in that big #2 case. It is a good load - I shot a moose with a similar loading - many years ago.

That is a good bullet.

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