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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: rigbymauser]
      #311728 - 05/02/18 11:55 PM

From past experience should tighten groups by min 30 percent with handloads. Happy with factory load grouping on PURDEY and Boss guns. PURDEY 10 Bore choked barrels ( paradox ) had to be hand loded for testing. Hope to get 10 percent improvement on it.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #311729 - 06/02/18 12:36 AM

Stunning project for sure.

I would like to hear particulars on the 10b Paradox. I have a bit of experience with an original.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: CptCurl]
      #311730 - 06/02/18 12:48 AM

Cptcurl could be 1 year before I can report on 10 bore. From start to finish this will be a 12.5 year project with boss 600 sxs extending it to 17.5 years.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #311744 - 06/02/18 03:43 AM

Ahmed,

Patience is quite a virtue.

As nobody makes 10b Paradox ammunition at present, have you decided what ballistics to specify for regulation?

My 10b was built for the 8 dram load, which used a 2 ounce (875 grain) bullet in a 2-7/8" thin brass case, resulting in approximately 1500 fps. I don't think there was much change in ballistics when the round was adapted to nitro powder. I am buying cases from Track of the Wolf, but I see they don't export these. https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/1210/11/SHOT-SHELL-10-2-78

I'll be interested as this project continues to develop.

One last question: Why would you have Purdey build this rather than Holland & Holland, the traditional Paradox maker?

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: CptCurl]
      #311784 - 06/02/18 02:08 PM

Have a friend with a 12 bore rifle choked gun built by PURDEY 100 years ago. As I was wanting PURDEY guns and they agreed to build it I proceeded. It is built on a rifle action with a set of smooth bore barrels for goose shooting. I have a 12 bore holland shot gun with a set of paradox barrels and a holland rifle 375 short with a set of 28 bore paradox barrels. It may take a while and I will report on loads and regulation etc.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #311994 - 09/02/18 04:41 AM

You certainly will be well-equipped!

I am anxious to see the 10b Purdey for sure.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: CptCurl]
      #316025 - 03/05/18 10:01 PM

Next instalment ...

First as posted elsewhere.

Boss .303 side by side round action.

The first image with scope. The second image of his newly made rifle with an older side by side also in .303.

Exquisite!





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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #316034 - 03/05/18 10:49 PM

And the .375.





I'm in love with this one ...

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #316035 - 03/05/18 10:53 PM

For the lovers of "rook" rifles in the modern age.

A unique bespoke Boss Under and Over in 5.6x50 mm Rimmed





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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #316036 - 03/05/18 11:00 PM

An earlier Boss .470, photos also supplied. Not part of Ahmed's project from the earlier inventory. But enjoy anyway.





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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #316119 - 05/05/18 09:09 PM

Absolutely eyepopping!

When I am re-incarnated as a prince I will have a similar project.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: CptCurl]
      #316147 - 06/05/18 11:50 AM

God I love the boss O/Us! If I get my Africa trip together I think Ill need one to go along with my 9.3 o/u.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: 008]
      #316177 - 07/05/18 08:47 AM

Incredible looking weapons...if only..

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ripp]
      #329966 - 10/07/19 12:59 AM

Some more pics courtesy of Colin.



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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #329967 - 10/07/19 01:02 AM


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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #329969 - 10/07/19 01:21 AM

Beautiful firearm right there.. and in .303 British no less.. perfect for a great variety of game..

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ripp]
      #329975 - 10/07/19 05:02 AM


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6 years and 6 months. It has been many decades since Purdey built a rifle choked gun. Probably close to 100 years. This gun built on a rifle action has an extra set of smooth bore barrels (32) . The rifle choked barrels are 27. It is a 10 bore and comes with a mould for the slugs ( looks just like the old Holland paradox mould). The 300 h&h double is near complete (7 years). The Purdey Battery Of 9 I will be in the bush next year. Both the 10 bore and 300 h&h are missing from this photo. Project started in 2010.


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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #329977 - 10/07/19 05:28 AM

So much fantastic design and craftsmanship.
Beautiful materials and process.

It would be really nice to see detailed accounts of the craftspeople involved in the production of these pieces. Views into their lives and training, their benches and tools - a tour through the production etc would be amazing.

I've seen the video productions from some of the makers. They're all fascinating. I wish there was more of a view into the day-to-day state of the craft.

Roland Baptiste keeps a relatively current journal of his works and his art on his Facebook, Joel Dorleac posts here from time to time with images from his business, Dewey Vicnair with his rising bite rifle and gun builds...
I'd like to see a more detailed look, much more frequently into the workshops of these top builders. That would be great!





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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: tinker]
      #329982 - 10/07/19 06:59 AM


I'm a true admirer of these realisations of the highest quality.
However I will allow myself a remark about the scope mount on the wonderful little Boss O/U 5.6x50R double rifle.
I sincerely believe that this masterpiece deserved much better than this modern claw mount with its inelegant extended rear mount and Allen head screws.
Ahmed will forgive me but I could not resist noting this incongruity ... really sorry.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: DORLEAC]
      #329989 - 10/07/19 03:49 PM

Question; there is two tools placed in case near turnscrews whose looks more or less like butter knifes. I dont recocnize the work they are made for ?

IMO these scope mounts fit quite well with the modern scope. I have seen case coloured mounts with similar modern scope and I dont like that kind of compination because the scope then looks very lonely and even ugly.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Igorrock]
      #329991 - 10/07/19 05:03 PM

The two tools are indeed DEXTER
Beaver skinning knives. Cheap to buy and for me I have never had a better skinning fleshing knife. When skinning crocodile you are forever in dirt and mud. I find these knives very easy to sharpen.


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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #330000 - 11/07/19 12:08 AM

Thanks for yours answer. You just have quite special place for them....

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #330019 - 11/07/19 09:15 PM

Colin, can you provide a left to right, or top to bottom listing of the rifles in the photo? Using one of the number references. I would like to add a description of the seven firearms. Thanks.

Say for this image:


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Edited by NitroX (11/07/19 09:15 PM)


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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: NitroX]
      #330021 - 11/07/19 10:20 PM

L to R. 31600 sn. 600 double. 31500 sn. 500 double. 31375 sn. 375 fl double. 31303 sn. 303 Brit double. 31056 sn. 5.6x52R double. 31022 sn. 22 hornet rook rifle. 31028 sn. 28 bore sxs. Missing are 10 bore rifle choked gun sn 31010 27 rifle choked barrels with additional 32 smooth bore barrels and 300 h&h fl double.

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Re:"200 Yr Purdey Battery of 9/Boss Battery of 6" - Ahmed577 [Re: Ahmed577]
      #330022 - 11/07/19 10:26 PM

Dorleac I agree with your sentiments on the scope mounts and screws on the Boss 5.6x50r. The enormity of the Boss and Purdey projects is hard for others to understand. 13 or 15 years it has taken and all I want is to sit and use them in the bush.

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