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Huvius
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Re: Shotgun to Double Rifle [Re: DarylS]
      #200633 - 26/01/12 07:08 AM

Took me a while to catch on that Ellis is on the forum now.
Huge welcome to you!
I think I have mentioned before that he hosts a shoot in August every year. A good time with a bunch of good guys (and a few gals) and a great opportunity to see some conversion guns and shoot some pretty exotic originals too.

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apr1775
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Re: Shotgun to Double Rifle [Re: Huvius]
      #201772 - 06/02/12 02:15 AM

Ellis,

Many of us here have your book and consider you to be the wise old sage of home double rifle builders. I hope to read more from you.

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DBLGN
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Re: Shotgun to Double Rifle [Re: apr1775]
      #201838 - 07/02/12 03:39 AM

Careful with that "wise old" stuff! Especially the wise! Thanks for the warm welcome guys. As I have stated before, I have followed these forums for quite some time, but just have not posted much. I can't afford too much to be spent here. Most of all, I am just an ordinary guy the was foolish enough to undertake recording his feeble efforts and then shared them with an unwitting public that now thinks he knows something. I still have lot to learn and learn new things with every double I build. Have to tell you, there are several guys out there that have taken my information and build at least as nice, if not nicer doubles than I do. Kind of like the old martial master that is most pleased when his student(s) exceed his ability.

Thanks again!
Ellis

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tinker
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Re: Shotgun to Double Rifle [Re: DBLGN]
      #201874 - 07/02/12 01:53 PM

Just got home to family and warm dinner -- and my copy of Gun Craft!


I'll look through it tonight after the kids are tucked in.
So far it looks pretty nice!




Cheers
Tinker

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nitro450exp
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Re: Shotgun to Double Rifle [Re: DarylS]
      #201960 - 08/02/12 12:43 PM

Mr. Brown.

Ordered our book hope to see it soon.
Looking forward to reading it.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Hope to one day tackle a project.

Graeme "Nitro"

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470 NE DR
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Mauser416
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Re: Shotgun to Double Rifle [Re: nitro450exp]
      #202038 - 09/02/12 12:13 PM

If we are considering the same shotgun model for conversion and have a 12 ga. or 16 ga. to choose from, is there a benefit to using a 12 ga. frame if the cartridge will fit into the 16 ga.? Is there a downside to using the 12 ga. in such a case?

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DBLGN
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Re: Shotgun to Double Rifle [Re: Mauser416]
      #202093 - 10/02/12 04:15 AM

"If we are considering the same shotgun model for conversion and have a 12 ga. or 16 ga. to choose from, is there a benefit to using a 12 ga. frame if the cartridge will fit into the 16 ga.? Is there a downside to using the 12 ga. in such a case? "

This all depends on the cartridge that you intend to build the rifle in. I build a lot of .450NE sized doubles and feel that the weight should be between 10 and 11 pounds to make the recoil manageable. While a 16B can be used, from a strength stand point, it is hard to get the proper weight. My first .450-3 1/4NE is built on a 16B frame, has over 900 rounds through it, and is still tight, but it only weighs 9.5 pounds - a bit light. Anything bigger than a .450, (500/465, .470, .475, .500) really needs to be on a 12B frame. The .500 is a another break over point - it can be built on a 12B frame, but may end up being a bit light for the cartridge. I feel that a .500 should weigh around 11 pounds, or a bit more. Anything over .500 (.577), needs to be on a 10B frame.

Ellis

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