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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #346962 - 19/11/20 05:18 PM

What a versatile firearm.

8mm plus 5.6mm and double barrelled shotgun.

Unusual place for the opening lever. What is this system called?

I have a question for our vierling users. How well does the twin rifle barrels work? In terms of useable impact/regulation? Say at 100 metres, how does the rifles impact differ? Then at say 200 metres, and 50 metres? Obviously with your own rifle, as thy may differ.

The 5.6 mm in my opinion is probably used for 'finer' shooting, on smaller game, so needs more precise shooting. But maybe is the last barrel to be considered?

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #346963 - 19/11/20 05:28 PM

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Unusual place for the opening lever. What is this system called?




horn and steel lefaucheux-type forward-facing underlever,

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #346964 - 19/11/20 05:31 PM

I was wondering about the 5.6X35R MM again and did a google search. And what do I find?

A NE thread!

.22 Vierling

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=334787&Main=334769

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #346978 - 20/11/20 03:29 AM

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Unusual place for the opening lever. What is this system called?




horn and steel lefaucheux-type forward-facing underlever,




called Teschner - Collath action

the Vierling was Drilling with a another barrel for small game to far away for shooting with the shotgun barrels

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #347279 - 29/11/20 05:22 AM

W Collath Drilling, barrels completly new in 16/70 and 6x70R, SN 9633
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=8757282











W.Collath Söhne double gun 16/65 , SN 20356
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12790822



























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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #347302 - 29/11/20 06:40 PM

Nice. I like it.

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #347340 - 30/11/20 08:13 AM

Beautiful pieces Lancaster!
6x70R - never heard if it, very LOOOONG for such a small calibre?


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Re: hold for me [Re: 93x64mm]
      #347342 - 30/11/20 08:46 AM

6x70R - that IS an interesting ctg. I suppose it needs to be of large capacity to get decent ballistics at fairly low pressure, I assume.

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Re: hold for me [Re: DarylS]
      #347476 - 03/12/20 06:40 AM

the 6x70R Norma is a new cartridge developt to get roe deer legal energy with the lowest pressure

http://old.municion.org/6Mm/6x70R.htm

its the only cartridge bigger than .22 hornet that is recommended in a barrel insert for a classic drilling.

one of the very few guns actually chambered for this round beside of the inserts https://www.einstecklauf.de/classic.html

mother cartridge was the old pre war 6,5x70R, called pencil cartridge because - well you guess why

http://old.municion.org/Gr/6_5x70R.htm


W.Collath Söhne, 16 ga +9,3x80R, SN 183xx
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12772365













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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #347477 - 03/12/20 07:29 AM

Exciting for the nice old woodskeeper's guns.

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Re: hold for me [Re: tinker]
      #347496 - 03/12/20 07:31 PM

We have had discussions on the 6x70R here on NE in the past. I will go and have a look.

I was talking about getting Bailey Bradshaw to make me a .22 Hornet double rifle with a second set of barrels in 6x70R. Never finished off the deal/order. Decided not to for certain reasons. HE was offering me a favourable price. Early on in his career. Now he is an accomplished gunmaker, I think that deal would be a multiple!

The 6x70R does not set the velocity tables on fire, that is for sure.

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #347497 - 03/12/20 07:49 PM

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=152489&an=&page=0&vc=1
Bailey Bradshaw DR in 6x70 mm Rimmed



http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=150032&an=&page=0&vc=1
Thoughts on the 6x70mm Rimmed?

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #347517 - 04/12/20 04:43 AM

W. Collath Söhne, Drilling, 16/65 +9,3x65R
https://auctions.springer-vienna.com/de/...p;currentpos=18







what interest me about the 6x70R is the fact this will be a basic case to make rare 6,5x70R brass if I get a nice old combination gun for this cartridge one fine day

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #349025 - 09/01/21 07:42 AM

W.Collath Söhne, Drilling 16ga +9,3x74R
https://www.naturabuy.fr/W-COLLATH-MIXTE-9-3X74R-16-item-7416134.html











https://www.gunbroker.com/item/883529542#carousel-modal-view-item

9,3x80R Tesco












W.Collath double rifle "36 caliber", SN 18092
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/engraved-collath-double-barrel-rifle-1974266298









W.Collath single shot rifle "7,65 mm", SN 17482
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/engraved-collath-sporting-rifle-1974266210





W. Collath. first barrel set 8x58E +8x58R +16 ga, second set 16 ga double, SN 14293
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/wilhelm-collath-unusual-barrel-set-2081199788













W.Collath Drilling 12ga +9,3x65R , SN 12885
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/gun-collath-drilling-12ga-12ga-3x65-1831641660










W.Collath Söhne double gun C 16, SN 22156
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=12848614





























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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #349191 - 13/01/21 05:04 AM

heavy rebuild W. Collath Drilling, new barrels 16 ga +6x70R SN 9633 S
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=8757282









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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #349338 - 17/01/21 03:11 AM

W.Collath Söhne double gun 16 ga
https://www.armiusate.it/armi-lunghe/fuc...aucheux_i677576















W.Collath double rifle 11,15x60R , SN 9337

https://www.gunstar.co.uk/wilhelm-collath-of-frankfurt-11-15-double-rifle-43-rifles/rifles/1292324#

























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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #349704 - 27/01/21 02:02 AM

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W.Collath Söhne double gun 16 ga
https://www.armiusate.it/armi-lunghe/fuc...aucheux_i677576










SN 21450

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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #349906 - 02/02/21 05:53 AM

without doubt a Collath 16 ga double gun sold once by E. Munich & Cie.
https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1036/2386/two-german-16-gauge-shotguns







W. Collath Söhne, 16 ga + 9,3x57R 360, SN 18797

https://www.lauritz.com/de/auktion/colla...enumm/i5918931/












W.Collath, Drilling 16 ga +22 Hornet( liner), SN 11000
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/883585563

























thanks tinker




W. Collath Söähne, Drilling 12/65 +8x57IR, SN 21xxx
https://www.vdb-waffen.de/de/waffenmarkt...llath&o=neu















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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #350032 - 05/02/21 03:07 AM



SB 21118

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Re: hold for me [Re: NitroX]
      #351777 - 27/03/21 06:16 PM

W. Collath combination gun 16 ga+8x72R with double gun barrels in 16 ga, SN 16733
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=13985284









































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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #351781 - 27/03/21 07:09 PM

I've never cared for the looks of the Collath.

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Re: hold for me [Re: casper50]
      #351784 - 27/03/21 09:49 PM

I am sorry for you

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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #351786 - 27/03/21 11:33 PM

Don't be Westley Richards takes it's place for me.

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Re: hold for me [Re: casper50]
      #351788 - 27/03/21 11:48 PM

W,Collath combination gun No. 4 + 9,3x65R, SN 17749
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/890940035





































another one
W.Collath No 5 and some unknown 10mm(?) caliber, hard to read mayb 8284?
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/893907892







































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Re: hold for me [Re: lancaster]
      #352677 - 25/04/21 11:10 PM

W,Collath Drlling 16 ga + 8x72R
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/898469632



















W.Collath Söhne Drilling 12 ga + 9,3x74R
https://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=13963189























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