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bigdog
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700 Nitro Express
      #49883 - 14/02/06 03:49 AM

I have finally got a 700 searcy double coming in. I am supposed to pick it up on wednesday this week! I have only wanted one of these babies for about 10 years! I just thought I would share the present state of euphoria I am in. Does any one else get this feeling when a long awaited gun finally comes in or is it just me?

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #49918 - 14/02/06 09:54 AM

Did you have it built or get the one off gunsamerica. I love the feeling of getting a new toy. Nothing like it!!

Congrats!

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bigdog
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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bwana600nitro]
      #49933 - 14/02/06 01:03 PM

I traded a bunch of stuff to get the one off of guns america. No way could I afford a new one outright. It would still just be a pipedream.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #49945 - 14/02/06 02:40 PM

Does it come with two stocks?

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: mickey]
      #49997 - 15/02/06 08:54 AM

This gun comes with the original stock that is left handed. There is also a new right handed stock that was made for it,it is part of our deal along with 50 rounds of holland & holland ammunition. Since I am left handed, this works out well for me.


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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #49999 - 15/02/06 10:05 AM

What happened to the dies and brass that went with the rifle when Westley Richards sold it 6 months ago?

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: 500grains]
      #50186 - 17/02/06 05:43 PM

The dies and brass, along with extra bullets also came in the deal. Does anyone remember how much Westly Richards was asking for it? Just curious, Ken

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50187 - 17/02/06 05:51 PM

So are you going to sell it with 49 shells?

I'd love to shoot thatthing ONCE!
It is a good looking rifle!

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: AkMike]
      #50237 - 18/02/06 12:59 PM

I sure hope to shoot it more than once. I will be hanging on to this one for a while. It is a thumper, but I have shot some big stuff, I have a 14lb 585 nyati that I have shot quite alot with some pretty stiff loads,(10300 ft. lbs) so I hope I won't have a whole lot of trouble with this one. We'll see...

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50239 - 18/02/06 01:46 PM

Ken,

WR was asking 35K for it. The rifle cost 40K new (with the LH stock). Dies, brass and bulles were extra.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: 500grains]
      #50241 - 18/02/06 03:20 PM

When I contacted Searcy, Butch told me that new 700 nitro basic rifles were starting at $50,000., I guess he must have meant full retail price? After going to pick up the rifle, I ended up with about 100 rounds of ammunition. Hell, I'll never shoot that much, but it was available, so I figured what the heck. Thanks for the info.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50256 - 19/02/06 01:25 AM

Bigdog

Congratulations - hope you have many successful hunts with it, and please post some pictures.

Brad

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50258 - 19/02/06 01:37 AM

Bigdog, current retail price is 50K. But the rifle you have was built a few years ago when the price was 40K.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: Brad_Rolston]
      #50259 - 19/02/06 01:38 AM

You deserve a big congrats..700ne how sweet it is.. Why brand of ammo are you guys shooting through yours? I am having cone custom in a single bolt set up with the help of Ed Hubbel.. How many firings can a person get form the brass?

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: msorenso]
      #50273 - 19/02/06 02:51 AM

All of my rounds are stamped, holland&holland 700,all are 1000grn. solids. I don't know how long the brass will hold up during reloading. I would like to try some 1200 grn, bullets sometime.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50405 - 21/02/06 02:51 AM

I assume the ammo is made by holland and holland? I know of a few to make it kynock, westly richards, a square is there any others?

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: msorenso]
      #50444 - 21/02/06 12:34 PM

not that I know of, but there may be others

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50559 - 22/02/06 06:55 PM

Congratulations on your new rifle. When it was at Westley Richards, I handled it. It was just too much (of everything) for me. Nice rifle, but I am glad it is your shoulder using it instead of mine.

My first thoughts when I saw it in the case were, "Wow, thats one fancy 12 gauge!" until my eyes drifted from the bores to the front sight and noticed it wasn't a standard bead and then it finally dawned on me when I saw the barrels contour.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50560 - 22/02/06 08:30 PM

Let us know when you shoot it. Just out of curiosity.... What is your build?

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bulldog563]
      #50592 - 23/02/06 04:57 AM

I would love to see a sample target of what the rifle will do, or even better, a video clip of it being fired.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: 500grains]
      #50599 - 23/02/06 05:19 AM

I would love for you to bring that 700 Nitro to our next DRSS hunt.

PS If I had a 700 Nitro, and found I could shoot it and handle it as well as a double in the 470 class I would change my name to BIGDOG.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bulldog563]
      #50628 - 23/02/06 10:51 AM

I am 5'9" and weigh about 285 lbs. I haven't had a chance to shoot it yet, but I hope to go in a couple of weeks. I hope it doesn't knock the hell out of me too bad, guess I'll have to wait and see. I will let you know how it goes after I shoot it. I have only been really hurt by guns twice in my life. One time I shot a 44 mag derringer one handed and buried the hammer about a 1/2" into the web of my hand between base of thumb and first finger. I was shooting some heavy corbon loads, 330 or 340 grains I think. Looking back , it seemed like the thing to do at the time, (pretty stupid)in my younger years. The other time was when a 460 weatherby 12"barrel of an encore blew off the frame the first time I shot it with full factory loads. After I got the barrel fixed with heavier connecting welds, I shot it twice with my other hand, after left broken wrist and cut finger ligiment healed. I posted that story under ENCORE several weeks ago. I may be silly, but I am actually looking forward to shooting the 700 nitro. Has anybody else ever pushed the limit a little too far and gotten hurt? The encore did stay together for the second two shots,but it still kicked like hell with full factory loads. I have retired that gun to the safe, and after the trouble with my 460 encore, a certain Arizona custom gun maker is no longer making an encore in this caliber.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50663 - 23/02/06 09:21 PM

The ammunition with the Holland and Holland headstamp was made by Jim Bell in the late 1980's (88-89)_ for development of Bill Feldsteins initial rifle.

Much of that ammo had the bullet seated below the cannelure and a cruciform stab crimp was applied in line with the cannelure groove, similar to that seen on the original Eley and Kynoch cartridges.

The brass utilised regular LR primers (Fed #215) and with heavy loads hang fires were sometimes encountered.

Both Romey ( who loads for Westely Richards and David Little who runs Kynamco (Kynoch) have opted for the more sensible approach witrh such a large capacity case and opted for BMG primers.

Some of the very first rounds came loaded with a homogenous bullet, although as to who made thaty bullet I have never actually found out, perhaps someone onthe forum may have this info.

Hollands still have a fair amount of the Bell loaded ammo in stock, although apart from selling the odd round to collectors, they do seem to favour supplying ammo to owners of their own manufactured rifles.

Good luck with the rifle however, if you get the chance post some of your results

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: JTOMLINSON]
      #50681 - 24/02/06 02:36 AM

Thanks for the information on the ammunition.I was trying to get a hold of the original owner, Steve Ferguson,he is in Canada somewhere. I pulled his old add off of gunsamerica but it won't let me contact him because it is too old. I talked to him back when he first had the 700 for sale, but I didn't have any funds available and he wasn't interested in trading. If any one knows how I can contact him, I would appreciate it. I would just like to get a little more history on the gun or any stories he might have about it. I wish I wouldn't have lost his number from a couple of years ago, but at that time I never dreamed that I would own this gun two years later. Thanks for any info.

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Re: 700 Nitro Express [Re: bigdog]
      #50707 - 24/02/06 05:51 AM

You could try sending him a personal message via the Accurate Reloading site he posts there regularly

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