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Ruger No. 1 450/400 3"
      #365908 - 26/05/22 02:35 AM

Headed to SA next year for Cape Buffalo.

I have a Ruger No. 1 in 450/400 3 inch headed my way. Near new only fired 3 shots says the seller. 47 rounds of brass and 50 400gr. Swift bullets included.

Looking at scopes. I am Brand loyal and I am looking at Leupold. First Choice was 1.5-4X or 1.5-5X but these are only available with various different wiz band reticles. This old guy works better with K.I.S.S. Narrowed my choice down to Leupold VX-Freedom Rifle Scope 2-7x 33mm Hunt Plex Reticle Matte.

Any one have negative or positive thoughts on the scope, beyond being a Leupold?

Also I am still looking for full or partial bookes of Barnes TSX .410 400 grain bullets.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #365914 - 26/05/22 03:37 AM

Douglas,
Not exactly what you were asking, but here is what I have on my Ruger No.1 .450/.400 Jeffery:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/353887096978?hash=item5265509092:g:rv0AAOSwTN5h-azz

I'm a Leupold guy and like the M8 fixed power scopes, they do pop up on occasion.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #365917 - 26/05/22 05:16 AM

Quote:

Headed to SA next year for Cape Buffalo.

I have a Ruger No. 1 in 450/400 3 inch headed my way. Near new only fired 3 shots says the seller. 47 rounds of brass and 50 400gr. Swift bullets included.

Looking at scopes. I am Brand loyal and I am looking at Leupold. First Choice was 1.5-4X or 1.5-5X but these are only available with various different wiz band reticles. This old guy works better with K.I.S.S. Narrowed my choice down to Leupold VX-Freedom Rifle Scope 2-7x 33mm Hunt Plex Reticle Matte.

Any one have negative or positive thoughts on the scope, beyond being a Leupold?

Also I am still looking for full or partial bookes of Barnes TSX .410 400 grain bullets.




I too am a Leupold guy..have been for over 40 years..

Had a Leupold VX 3 4.5-14 on my 300RUM --did 5 trips to Africa with that combo.. NEVER had to readjust my scope when I arrived and checked my rifles --worked so well I changed it..took off the Leupold and put a Swarovski on it.. first trip..had to readjust when I arrived in Zimbabwe..

I have a 1.75-6 Leupold with Heavy duplex on my 416's I use for DG.. same on the 1.5 to 5 ---both are VX 3's I believe.. can check to confirm..have a VX6 1.75-6 with a firedot on my .375H&H

As for bullets.. There is not a better bullet made for cape buffalo than the Swift A-Frame.. per my experience.. that is after taking in the neighborhood of 80 head of game in Africa using A-Frames in both my 416 and 300RUM.. Personally I would take those over the Barnes every time..BUT?? you have to do what you believe in..

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: Ripp]
      #365922 - 26/05/22 11:12 AM

I have a 2.5x20mm wide duplex on mine in low rings though I'd prefer a 1.5x or 2x. I like the wide duplex in thick bush.

I agree with you - I'm keeping an eye out for another Vari-X III 1.5-5x20mm without the gizmo's that are on the newer ones. Don't need 'em.

I use a hard cheek weld and couldn't get the crosshairs spot-on bringing the rifle up without raising my cheek ever so slightly, so I put a thick leather butt cuff on it and now it's perfect.

If you'll be in the thick stuff you'll likely just leave it on 2x.

I loaded my rounds to 2050 instead of 2150. That and the way I hold the 2nd round in my trigger hand makes for a pretty darn fast reload with practice.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: puddle]
      #365923 - 26/05/22 12:09 PM

Try to find a Leupold Pig Plex 1-4x. Bold reticle, good eye relief. If I didn’t already have a Leupold 1.5-5 (old one) on my No 1 in 450/400, I’d be using the Pig Plex.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: puddle]
      #365924 - 26/05/22 12:19 PM

Common ground :

On the Leupold on my DRs and couple others - the M8 4 power has been on my 1953 M70 .308 for over 3 decades- it just works.

Also on the 400 grain Woodie at 2100 fps for Cape Buff - another combo that just works in my 1895 Winchester .405.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: crshelton]
      #365925 - 26/05/22 01:17 PM

I would be more inclined, for that rifle not being a long range gun, to be looking at a straight 2X or at the most 2.5X fixed power scope.
I had a 2X Leuy for a while (20years) on my .458 2" and it was perfect.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DarylS]
      #365927 - 26/05/22 01:38 PM

Like Daryl, I too would be inclined to use a fixed low power scope for cape buffalo and other heavy/dangerous game.
I do however use an older Redfield 1 3/4-5x on my No. 1 450/400.
Mine is used for deer size game with NfB type loads.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: Iowa_303s]
      #365928 - 26/05/22 07:05 PM

I like a post cross reticle or the German no.4 reticle which has heavier posts, a higher bottom post and no top post. Thinner cross hairs.

For buffalo a 1x to a 2.5x reticle, or a variable starting at 1x or 1 1/2x. A top 4x or 5x is useful for plains game shots.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: NitroX]
      #365929 - 26/05/22 07:07 PM

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I like a post cross reticle or the German no.4 reticle which has heavier posts, a higher bottom post and no top post. Thinner cross hairs.




https://thenewrifleman.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/German4_Reticle-2.png



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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: NitroX]
      #365931 - 26/05/22 09:41 PM

I have John Taylor's book open and reading praises of the 450/400 3". My goodness he does go on. I do enjoy his writing how ever.

As I read what you folks have wrote it seems we all are on the same wave length.

I did consider the idea of 2X fixed.

Reading her and on other discussion boards as well as Taylor I am more inclined to to go with the variable. While this gun is being acquired for Cape Buffalo it is not intended to be a one shot gun, (not over confidence or arrogance, rather positive attitude) But from description of the cartridge performance, it might become an Elk and Deer rifle and a minimum of 4X for that game would be more useful.

Now to finish Taylor and dig out Keith.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #365932 - 26/05/22 10:17 PM

A scope can be useful for making a shot on a bull in a herd. As compared to open express sights. I swapped my double 450 for the guides 416 Rem, 700, scope sighted when trying for a buffalo in a herd while hunting elephant. But no older mature bulls s didn't fire a shot.

Some extra magnification ie 1 to 4x might be useful. I doubt more than 4x is needed on anything a .400 shoots. I've used my 30-06 with a 4x to 250 metres well. Up to 400 metres used but wouldn't normally at least on a costly trophy fee.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #365933 - 26/05/22 10:26 PM

I too like the M8 4x. First scope I ever owned. Good all round magnification for everything except extreme range....which I don't shoot. Just recently bought a used one and will add another one as soon as I can find one I like.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #365936 - 26/05/22 11:17 PM

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I have John Taylor's book open and reading praises of the 450/400 3". My goodness he does go on. I do enjoy his writing how ever.

As I read what you folks have wrote it seems we all are on the same wave length.

I did consider the idea of 2X fixed.

Reading her and on other discussion boards as well as Taylor I am more inclined to to go with the variable. While this gun is being acquired for Cape Buffalo it is not intended to be a one shot gun, (not over confidence or arrogance, rather positive attitude) But from description of the cartridge performance, it might become an Elk and Deer rifle and a minimum of 4X for that game would be more useful.

Now to finish Taylor and dig out Keith.




Fixed used to be and maybe still is considered a bit more reliable however I have never had an issue with any of my scoped on the larger calibers.. I will only use a variable like the ones mentioned. In Africa and other areas the extra power can come in handy and you never know what opportunity may come your way.. IMHO..

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: Ripp]
      #365944 - 27/05/22 01:16 AM

If using the rifle for deer at home, then yes, a variable would be better. The 1-4X or 1-5X would be perfect. with soft-ball deer loads, it is not like you would need any more magnification than 4 or 5X.
When I first started hunting in BC, I used and had a 2X on the .458 as well as a 3-9X on the .358/.375 602. It was taped at 4X.
I did use a 12X when 3-position shooting with the .375 and cast bullet loads.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DarylS]
      #365960 - 27/05/22 02:47 AM

Funny acstraight 2 1/2x used to be considered ideal for a bolt action .375. Now I consider it too big ! .

Variable scopes are probably better now. And most certainly cheaper than they used to be.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: NitroX]
      #365961 - 27/05/22 02:50 AM

One could with a Ruger No.1 .400, to equip it with two scopes. One for a 410 gr SP. And a low powered scope.

With a second scope of greater power and a lesser weight Spitzer or pointed sp projectile.

Awkward. But could hunt with the buffalo setup. Once done, go for the plains game setup.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: NitroX]
      #365962 - 27/05/22 05:04 AM

With good quick detachable mounts by Leopold and others, a quick switch with already sighted in scopes set up for the same rifle would be a piece of cake.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DarylS]
      #365987 - 27/05/22 11:14 PM

The scope issue is resolved. I bought a Leupold VX-3HD Rifle Scope 1.5-5x 20mm CDS-ZL Duplex Reticle.

Talked to the Outfitter yesterday and he waiting for the seller in Wisconsin to send the gun. Wisconsin, is that you BuckStik?


As I said above the gun comes with brass and bullets. I would like to pick up 10-20 more cases and load up some light cast bullet loads for drill and practice. I have .410 and .411 bullet moulds for may Marlin Ballard 40/90.

Anybody have any spare 450/400 3" case they might part with. Onsey and twosy will work for practice ammo.

Drop me a PM or email if you can help.

More I read on the Swift bullet, the more I am liking them.

The PH/Outfitter are pushing the TSX bullets. I doubt they complain if I show up with Swift---If I can shoot.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #365988 - 27/05/22 11:35 PM

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The scope issue is resolved. I bought a Leupold VX-3HD Rifle Scope 1.5-5x 20mm CDS-ZL Duplex Reticle.

Talked to the Outfitter yesterday and he waiting for the seller in Wisconsin to send it. Wisconsin, is that you BuckStik?


As I said above the gun comes with brass and bullets. I would like to pick up 10-20 more cases and load up some light cast bullet loads for drill and practice. I have .410 and .411 bullet moulds for may Marlin Ballard 40/90.

Anybody have any spare 450/400 3" case they might part with. Onsey and twosy will work for practice ammo.

Drop me a PM or email if you can help.

More I read on the Swift bullet, the more I am liking them.

The PH/Outfitter are pushing the TSX bullets. I doubt they complain if I show up with Swift---If I can shoot.




You will NOT regret using Swifts..Don't think I have a recovered A-Frame that isn't still 90% weight retention or more.. As I have stated before.. I shot a big buff bull one morning in Zim.. at about 80 yards.. bullet passed through and killed another bull behind him.. Two for one..

Think your choice of scope is perfect..

Has to be exciting preparing for the trip.. good for you..

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: Ripp]
      #365990 - 27/05/22 11:42 PM

Ripp,

Since moving away from Montana my hunting and shooting has been seriously curtailed. I use to get all shakey in February driving around to look lo0oking for the first gopher of the season.

I haven't fired shot through one of my 17's since 2018.

Now I am getting cranked up. and this trip is still a year away, well technically 11 months and three weeks away. But who is counting.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #365997 - 28/05/22 02:15 AM

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Ripp,

Since moving away from Montana my hunting and shooting has been seriously curtailed. I use to get all shakey in February driving around to look lo0oking for the first gopher of the season.

I haven't fired shot through one of my 17's since 2018.

Now I am getting cranked up. and this trip is still a year away, well technically 11 months and three weeks away. But who is counting.





My kids, wife and I entered a gopher derby a couple weeks back.. it was a Sat/Sun event.. bring in a tail for proof.. I worked on the ranch Sat so couldn't help .. they had a rough time opening day as 2/3's made it back down the hole before they could get their tails but off.. I fired up my Anschutz in 17HMR on Sunday morning.. once hit with that the going down the hole part was a non-issue..

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: Ripp]
      #366002 - 28/05/22 03:55 AM

We have used our HMRs to 200yards VERY effectively. At that range, head and chest hits anchor them.
The first year we used the HMR's, we went right out to 250yards, but had too many crawl-offs, so have now restricted their use to 200.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DarylS]
      #366003 - 28/05/22 04:06 AM

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We have used our HMRs to 200yards VERY effectively. At that range, head and chest hits anchor them.
The first year we used the HMR's, we went right out to 250yards, but had too many crawl-offs, so have now restricted their use to 200.




THe 17HMR's are such an awesome gopher round.. can witness the hit through the scope.. and leaves no doubt as to the hit itself

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: Ripp]
      #366008 - 28/05/22 05:26 AM

Same goes for the .17AH, .17 Hornady Hornet and .17 Ack. Bee.
About 80% of the time, with .17. Rem too.

Sorry this has nothing to do with the OP's Ruger.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DarylS]
      #366014 - 28/05/22 06:58 AM

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Same goes for the .17AH, .17 Hornady Hornet and .17 Ack. Bee.
About 80% of the time, with .17. Rem too.

Sorry this has nothing to do with the OP's Ruger.




I had a 17REM centerfire for a while.. was hell on wheels for varmints.. eventually sold it as it was finicky with barrel cleaning.. and the cleaning required different rods needed vs something like a 22-250..

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DarylS]
      #366037 - 29/05/22 12:42 AM

Not a problem for drift to shooting Gophers, it is part of the strong memory I have of the 20 years I lived in Montana. Besides this is my topic, and I started the drift.

This also brings back memories the thousand and I do mean many thousands of rounds I shot at gophers. The last year was a year of using the 17 Hornady Hornet. I had 1500 rounds of factory ammo I shoot up and then reload. I shot about half those reloads that year also.

I can tell you this. The most inherently accurate was the 17 Hornady Mach 2, the 17 made on the 22LR case. It was was limited to 100 yards because of the wind-they have wind in Montana.

The 17HMR worked very well at to 150 yards, very accurate, but not as accurate as the HM2. Shots on a calm day to 250 yards possible and still was a devastating killer at that range. I used it one time on prairie dogs. I never recovered one, all made it the hole. Plenty of blood and debris to indicate kills, even head shots. But they still got in the hole. No PD's recovered. Head shots only and easily done on Rock chucks and never a miss. Instant death

17 Hornady Hornet. I really like this cartridge. Not as accurate as the two rimfires. but very adequate. I built two of these guns on Martini actions. I made the mistake of loaning one to my wife to use. She is not an experienced shooter but did a spectacular job with this gun. She made a great shot on a rock chuck at 175-180 yards with this gun. I told her to aim at the nose of the straight on facing chuck. I told her she was going to hit below that in the chest. She thought she had missed at the shot. But I saw the chuck hump up at the shot and then saw blood running down the rock. Last time I saw this gun, it was in her gunsafe. I mentioned that my gun was in her safe and she responded to the effect only her guns were in her safe. Hmmm.


I got to shoot a few rounds of 17WSM when a friend brought his Savage rifle out in that caliber. It shot okay. My friend shot if for a while and put it away and got out his other Savage 17HMR. I never saw him shoot that gun again. I was considering doing up a Martini in that Cartridge but after that session I no longer was interested.

I am torn be between the 17HMR and the 17 HH as best cartridge for gophers. Generally ranges for them are well under 100 yards, but longer shots are available. The 17HH does have a touch more range. As far as accuracy, my BSA Francotte 1215's out shoots any other of the guns my friend brought out. Now there is one friend that is a better shooter than me. But in his case it is a better shooter not better gun. Might also be the reason he got a couple of Martini' for the gopher patch.


This is what you do while waiting for the orders to come in, sit around and BS.

When the Ruger and Leupold scope get here and I put them together I will bring this subject back on topic.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #366038 - 29/05/22 01:04 AM

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Not a problem for drift to shooting Gophers, it is part of the strong memory I have of the 20 years I lived in Montana. Besides this is my topic, and I started the drift.

This also brings back memories the thousand and I do mean many thousands of rounds I shot at gophers. The last year was a year of using the 17 Hornady Hornet. I had 1500 rounds of factory ammo I shoot up and then reload. I shot about half those reloads that year also.

I can tell you this. The most inherently accurate was the 17 Hornady Mach 2, the 17 made on the 22LR case. It was was limited to 100 yards because of the wind-they have wind in Montana.

The 17HMR worked very well at to 150 yards, very accurate, but not as accurate as the HM2. Shots on a calm day to 250 yards possible and still was a devastating killer at that range. I used it one time on prairie dogs. I never recovered one, all made it the hole. Plenty of blood and debris to indicate kills, even head shots. But they still got in the hole. No PD's recovered. Head shots only and easily done on Rock chucks and never a miss. Instant death

17 Hornady Hornet. I really like this cartridge. Not as accurate as the two rimfires. but very adequate. I built two of these guns on Martini actions. I made the mistake of loaning one to my wife to use. She is not an experienced shooter but did a spectacular job with this gun. She made a great shot on a rock chuck at 175-180 yards with this gun. I told her to aim at the nose of the straight on facing chuck. I told her she was going to hit below that in the chest. She thought she had missed at the shot. But I saw the chuck hump up at the shot and then saw blood running down the rock. Last time I saw this gun, it was in her gunsafe. I mentioned that my gun was in her safe and she responded to the effect only her guns were in her safe. Hmmm.


I got to shoot a few rounds of 17WSM when a friend brought his Savage rifle out in that caliber. It shot okay. My friend shot if for a while and put it away and got out his other Savage 17HMR. I never saw him shoot that gun again. I was considering doing up a Martini in that Cartridge but after that session I no longer was interested.

I am torn be between the 17HMR and the 17 HH as best cartridge for gophers. Generally ranges for them are well under 100 yards, but longer shots are available. The 17HH does have a touch more range. As far as accuracy, my BSA Francotte 1215's out shoots any other of the guns my friend brought out. Now there is one friend that is a better shooter than me. But in his case it is a better shooter not better gun. Might also be the reason he got a couple of Martini' for the gopher patch.


This is what you do while waiting for the orders to come in, sit around and BS.

When the Ruger and Leupold scope get here and I put them together I will bring this subject back on topic.




Well, with it being Memorial Day weekend and all.. its raining here today.. a rain we are ALL very thankful for..its suppose to rain off and on for the next 4 days..hopefully that happens

Another Anschutz I have is in 22Win MAg..heavy target barrel on it..can consistently shoot p-dogs with it 150 tp 200 yrds no problem using the scope...Have not shot that in a very long time..BUT, got a call from a client who knows I like to shoot them.. Wants me to come over and clean up a little town which I plan to do in a couple weeks.. going to take my travel trailer over there and part right in the middle of the town..

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: Ripp]
      #366047 - 29/05/22 02:59 AM

Generally speaking, we use our re-barreled, re-springed and re-stocked Ruger 10-22's with Yellow Jackets or WW Power Points on gophers to 100yards. Both of our Rugers shoot into 1/2" or a bit tighter at 50 yards. Both loads really work well on them.
Then, the HMR's from over 100 to 200, then the CF's out to 500yards plus.
My quad's front gun box holds 2 rifles in foam and one bungied on the rack behind my back.
With a short camp stool, the front gun box makes a good bench.
BR and bags in the rear box along with ammo.
We used to get between 1,500 and 2,500 gophers each, on the week long trip near end of April. Shooting was fast and furious for about 15 seasons", then dropped off on the 4 farms we shot up. We quite decimated the rodents. The last time out there, (Horse Fly B.C.) I shot just over 300. Missed 4 shots, all with the HMR. Some of the fields, buddy Len. didn't even get his rifle out of the gun box on the front of his quad. They were very few and far between. Waste of fuel, actually. Still had a good time. That was about 5 years ago, and with that regenerating reprieve, maybe it's "time" we go back for another shoot?

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DarylS]
      #366798 - 16/06/22 11:19 PM

Well the rifle has arrived and it is very nice, too nice.

Lots of surprises in the box. I did not pay premium for this rifle. I paid run of the mill Ruger No. 1 price. Way below normal price for a 450/400 3" 1H.

In the box was a 42 fired Hornady cases and 2 sealed boxes of Swift A frame .410- 400 Grain bullets.

Also in the bottom of the box was a packing slip from Ruger indicating the gun was recently shipped (26-APR-2022) from them after the barrel was replaced, the gun refinished, and stock replaced. Hummmm? I knew the stock had been replaced, but heard nothing about the barrel. Looking closely at the gun You can tell it was refinished. The packing slip also says, "repair, proofed, safety function check range test and cleaning has been completed. 1/2" group at 50 yards with Hornady 400 grain DGS"-copy of test target enclosed.

Serial number look up on this gun says made 2007.

While I am not concerned about the replaced barrel, I would like to know why it was replaced.

I called Swift looking for load data for their bullets, but they did not have any. The fellow I talked to said finding bullets right now would be hard, but they're out there. He told me finding brass right now will be near impossible. He said use the published data for reloading this cartridge.

He suggested look for 2150 to 2200 fps for best performance in this cartridge with their bullet. I wish I got his name he seemed knowledgeable and friendly.


Given the price I paid for rifle and getting $350 worth of brass and bullets in boot, I am happy.

Now to do some reloading.

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Re: Ruger No. 1 450/400 3" [Re: DoubleD]
      #366806 - 17/06/22 07:13 AM

Seems to me like you got a good deal. Well done.

Matt.

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