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DarylS
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: stug]
#269479 - 22/08/15 02:28 AM

Shooting buddy Len, with one of his 320yard kills.
.17AB 20Vmax @ 4,150fps.

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Iowa_303s
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: DarylS]
#269489 - 22/08/15 08:16 AM

Daryl, what was that before the high speed injection?

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mart
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Iowa_303s]
#275083 - 14/12/15 04:02 PM

Cow moose this year with a left handed Winchester 70, 400 Whelen, 400 grain Hawk and a Lyman 48 receiver sight.

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Rule303
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: mart]
#275084 - 14/12/15 05:57 PM

Mart, nice work with the 400Whelen. An over looked cartridge.

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mart
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Rule303]
#275097 - 15/12/15 04:32 AM

Thank you sir. I built it about 5 years ago and so far it has a caribou and a moose to it's credit. I was blessed to get to know Michael Petrov and visit with him several times before his passing. He was the foremost authority on all things Whelen and inspired me to built the 400. Its been my most enjoyable rifle project ever.

The 450/400 made its stellar reputation with 400 grain bullets at 2150 fps. The 400 Whelen will do the same in a magazine rifle.

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Rule303
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: mart]
#275113 - 15/12/15 08:19 AM

Mart I would think the 400Whelen would be more than enough gun for Grizzle Bear. Would you hunt Grizzly with it if you had the chance?

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mart
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Rule303]
#275131 - 15/12/15 02:08 PM

Absolutely. I'd hunt anything in the world with it given the opportunity. I even have some Barnes Super Solid 400 grain bullets in case I get invited to cull some elephant or cape buffalo or suddenly become wealthy enough to afford a safari.

I've been out several times looking for a bear but haven't gotten in on one for a shot yet. I've no qualms at all about using the 400 Whelen for a grizzly.

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DarylS
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: mart]
#275147 - 16/12/15 02:46 AM

mart - is your rifle chambered for the improved case, or simply necked up for the standard .400 Whelen?

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mart
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: DarylS]
#275148 - 16/12/15 03:33 AM

Daryl,

The 400 Whelen in its original or standard form was on an improved case. The only versions that used a non-improved standard 30-06 case were done by gunsmiths who did not understand what Colonel Whelen had designed in the 400. Michael Petrov's excellent articles on the 400 Whelen are easily found online and a worth while read and do a great job of explaining the 400 Whelen's history.

The 30-06, 35 Whelen and 375 Whelen all share a common .441 shoulder diameter. The 400 Whelen as The Colonel designed it has a .458 diameter shoulder. There are other variants with a .461 shoulder and of course the Brown-Whelen with the shoulder moved slightly forward and a .461 shoulder. I'm not sure what the dimensions on the 411 Hawk are but all three cases, the 400 Whelen, the 400 Brown-Whelen and the 411 Hawk are so close in capacity that load data is interchangeable.

My 400 is the standard 400 Whelen with the .458 shoulder.

Mart

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Re: Kills with classic bolt rifle. [Re: kuduae]
#275180 - 17/12/15 10:05 AM

Not a classic rifle, but a classic caliber. Sako Kodiak 375 H&H.

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DarylS
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Iowa_303s]
#275187 - 17/12/15 11:54 AM

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Daryl, what was that before the high speed injection?

Columbia Ground Squirrel, IOWA_303, about 1/2 the size of a black tailed Prairie Dog.

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mart
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: DarylS]
#275211 - 18/12/15 01:49 AM

Toby,

Awesome. A classic cartridge and a classy rifle.

Mart

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Ash
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: ozhunter]
#320005 - 24/09/18 12:42 AM

Went for a walk last night with a torch.

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470evans
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Ash]
#320009 - 24/09/18 02:01 AM

Elephant and Buff taken in Sapi in 2010 with my William Evans 470

Hippo taken with my LH Model 70 375 H&H

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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Ash]
#320015 - 24/09/18 04:53 AM

I love that certus rifle.

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Ripp
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: cordite]
#320023 - 24/09/18 11:09 AM

Zim--2005

P1010018 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

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Ash
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Ripp]
#320026 - 24/09/18 12:07 PM

Well done, guys!

That hippo appears to be a double rifle rather than a Winchester..?

Ripp - what’s the rifle? 416 rem?

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Re: Kills with classic bolt rifle. [Re: CptCurl]
#320027 - 24/09/18 01:11 PM

Other then kills with AR15s and FALs nearly all my kills have been with classics. I have never owned a sporting rifles with a plastic stock. I have nothing against them, but they just don't interest me at all.
Here is one of the VERY few pictures I have of a kill. I shot this young buck Prong-Horn 4 days ago.

I have hunted for over 50 years in many states and a few other countries, but until a few years ago I never owned a camera. And in the last few years I have forgotten to take it on my hunts.

So this is very rare for me.
But the little carbine is a classic for sure, and I made the shot from 177 yards and killed it with a neck shot.
6.5X54

2018 #1 Ant. Buck by Steve Zihn, on Flickr

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Ash
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Re: Kills with classic bolt rifle. [Re: szihn]
#320028 - 24/09/18 01:42 PM

Glad you’re getting pics, Steve. Earlier in this post you mentioned having none.

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Rule303
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: 470evans]
#320030 - 24/09/18 03:13 PM

Ash, good to see the old girl getting put to good use.

470Evans, sweet. brain or heart shot on the Elephant?

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Rule303
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Ripp]
#320031 - 24/09/18 03:15 PM

Ripp, that is a nice old Buff and solid boss. Any idea how old he was?

szihn, now sir that is a classic rifle and cartridge put to good use.

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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Rule303]
#320037 - 24/09/18 09:13 PM

Cross posted in the ML forum as well. William Moore 14 bore two groove rifle.

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Ripp
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Ash]
#320038 - 24/09/18 11:48 PM

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Well done, guys!

That hippo appears to be a double rifle rather than a Winchester..?

Ripp - what’s the rifle? 416 rem?

Indeed-Remington Custom Shop 416 Rem Mag... Love that gun..have several others including a custom, controlled round feed, but shoot and like this one the best..so she keeps getting to come with to Africa..

P1080048 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

2008 elephant2 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

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2008 Lion-1 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

P1060025 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

WORK PHOTOS 1783 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

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P1060008-3 by A Hoffart, on Flickr

art -brown bear by A Hoffart, on Flickr

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Ripp
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Re: Kills with classic bolt rifle. [Re: szihn]
#320039 - 24/09/18 11:49 PM

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Other then kills with AR15s and FALs nearly all my kills have been with classics. I have never owned a sporting rifles with a plastic stock. I have nothing against them, but they just don't interest me at all.
Here is one of the VERY few pictures I have of a kill. I shot this young buck Prong-Horn 4 days ago.

I have hunted for over 50 years in many states and a few other countries, but until a few years ago I never owned a camera. And in the last few years I have forgotten to take it on my hunts.

So this is very rare for me.
But the little carbine is a classic for sure, and I made the shot from 177 yards and killed it with a neck shot.
6.5X54
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That's a really nice rifle Steve..congrats..

Ripp

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470evans
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Re: Kills with classic not plastic bolt rifles. [Re: Rule303]
#320040 - 24/09/18 11:56 PM

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470Evans, sweet. brain or heart shot on the Elephant?

Hello Ash,

The elephant was shot with a frontal brain shot at 10 paces in thick cover, very exciting to say the least....I used a Woodleigh 500 gr solid that went through the brain and lodged in the neck vertebrae. The elephant dropped at the shot.

The Hippo was shot with my 375 H&H Win 70, when I took the picture I only had the 470 available so it gets the glory.

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