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pajeff
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Nosler solids
      #102356 - 13/04/08 05:48 AM

Has anyone had any experience with the new Nosler solids- in 375, 416, or 458?

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: pajeff]
      #102363 - 13/04/08 07:26 AM

?????????
I didn't even know Nosler made solids!

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: szihn]
      #102377 - 13/04/08 11:19 AM

Seat Acubonds backwards?

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pajeff
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Re: Nosler solids [Re: DarylS]
      #102389 - 13/04/08 04:37 PM

Well, I meant this as a serious question. Nosler solids are available directly from Nosler or MidwayUSA in .375(260 and 300gr.), .416 in 400gr., and 458 in 500gr.

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: pajeff]
      #102662 - 17/04/08 11:43 AM

Yep they have some solids out now , I wanted to try the 458's but at $4 each they wont be selling me any ..

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: Schamankungulo]
      #102682 - 17/04/08 08:19 PM

$4 each is between 0.016% and $0.028% of an elephant trophy fee in Zimbabwe. At that price and assuming you kill your elephant with a single brain shot, you could fire between 361 and 624 practice shots and it would still be less than 10% of your trophy fee. Not sure what else you might want to use them for, but looked at from this perspective they don't seem that bad...
No I don't work for Nosler How does the price compare to other solids?

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #102683 - 17/04/08 09:08 PM

100% agree Jabali, the most importany piece of the jigsaw,the thing that actually brings home the bacon, if woodleighs cost $10 each I'd still buy them, the cost of the bullet is minute in comparison to the rest of the hunt. Using crappy ammo is the biggest false economy I can think of. best, Mike

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #102698 - 17/04/08 10:50 PM

Ok, so they cost 0.016 of your trophy fee..........
But do they work any better then the 90 cent Hornady? That's a better question.

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #102700 - 17/04/08 11:19 PM

Quote:

Using crappy ammo is the biggest false economy I can think of. best, Mike



Very true.

When I was at the gun shop, we always tried to make that point to fellows we were outfitting for African hunts. However, it was very difficult to convince many of this reality.

Too much recoil and too much price.

Those were the realities that kept fellows from buying the stuff in quantity and practicing before the hunt and I have no doubt that some added their names to the long list of shot-botchers who made the trip to the Dark Continent...

This experience started me on the mental game I've played for years; Assuming you can't force a guy to have both, which is better; superb bullets or superb shooting skill?

A conundrum to be sure...



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Re: Nosler solids [Re: szihn]
      #102710 - 18/04/08 01:19 AM

Good question, Steve - mine as well.
: I'd rather practise with the ammo I'll be shooting on game, but have in the past substituted less expansive bullets, even cast at the same performance level, even in .375H&H.
: Nosler has a habbit of attaching excessive value to it's bullets, at least for the Canadian Market. Here, Barnes, Norma bonded and Failsafes are cheaper than Nosler Partitions of Accubonds.
: Further to this, Hornady has supported other shooting hobbies of mine when no other manufacturer would, and with the best, most accurate bullets to date. Therefore I support Hornady whenever possible. Their new dangerous game bullets deserve a real-world test in Africa.

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Edited by Daryl_S (18/04/08 01:22 AM)

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: DarylS]
      #102727 - 18/04/08 04:37 AM

I have used only the 416 caliber solids in my 416 Weatherby Magnum.
They are by far the toughest monolithic solids that I had tested. I recently shoot several bullets into an oak log to test their penetration and toughness. Rifle used - 416 Weatherby caliber, impact velocity - about 2700 fps. Those new Nosler solids performed significantly better than A-Square, Barnes, North Fork and GS Custom solids. Especially the North Fork and GS solids were badly deformed. But the Nosler solids showed almost no deformation of any kind. That was impresive to witness especially compared to the other solids riveted and the N-F being almost destroyed... But I suspect they will take the rifling downrange with them pretty fast... You want a tough bullet, you got to sacrifice the barrel, there is nothing for free... Besides the toughness they provided also the deepest penetration among those solids.
In my rifle they were not the most accurate bullets, but enough for DG work. I realy don`t expect match grade accuracy from a 416 caliber solid but toughness and penetration and they provide that aplenty. They have a small flat point and a truncated cone shape of the nose. That should give them good penetration in bone, but less penetration in living flesh, as you need a wider meplat for that. But I personally think they are well balanced. But to prove that I need to shoot some tough animals with them first. But in oak wood they were exemplary.

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Re: Nosler solids [Re: Naren]
      #102728 - 18/04/08 04:45 AM

...what is the o/a length of the Nosler solid?

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Naren
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Re: Nosler solids [Re: JLS]
      #102730 - 18/04/08 05:03 AM

In the 416 caliber - 1.523 inch. Dont know about the other calibers - used only that one...

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