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      #364208 - 02/04/22 04:42 AM



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The place to get your sword, gun, tents, clothes and maybe razor for you safari!

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      #364211 - 02/04/22 04:49 AM



Philip Hope Percival. PH to Hemingway and others.

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      #364228 - 02/04/22 11:16 PM

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Old advertisement.

The Norfolk Hotel of Nairobi. And the Victoria Hotel of Entebbe. THE places to stay in British East Africa - Kenya and Uganda.




Wow! Thanks for the attempt at non political discussion! Well done!

I haven't stayed at the "New Stanley Hotel" but have had lunch and dinner there. It is a popular or was? meeting place. Also had a message board to leave messages for other travellers on.

The New Stanley Hotel is a tall multistory hotel, had an outside cafe. In the middle of the urban city Central business district, no longer countryside by many decades.

Back in 1988. What is it now?

I wanted to go to Uganda back in 1988. Not long after Idi Amin. But was not able to. A couple of Kiwis I met on the Mombasa train were heading there soon after.

So never stayed at the Entebbe Victoria Hotel.

Another place in Nairobi to visit and stay is the Muthaiga Club. Both the Norfolk Hotel and the Muthaiga Club were THE places of Colonial Nairobi.

My club, the Naval and Military Club, currently a non person unvaxed member , used to have associate or reciprocal membership benefits with the Muthaiga Club. Able to stay there, the pool , tennis courts, golf?, restaurant etc etc. Alas I think it is no longer on the list.

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      #364229 - 02/04/22 11:24 PM

Sign me up for a full bag two month walking safari, 1904, please.


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Old advertisement.

The original and first outfitter for Safar clients. Created in 1904 by Newland and Tarlton, in British East Africa now Kenya. Two Aussie ex-soldiers of the Boer War.




The great Aussie outfitter firm in British East Africa. All the famous names were White Hunters for N & T in the early years.



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      #364237 - 03/04/22 02:52 AM

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Sign me up for a full bag two month walking safari, 1904, please.








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      #364238 - 03/04/22 04:50 AM

I think on day number two you have allready enough from walking and only wish a safari car

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: lancaster]
      #364242 - 03/04/22 09:58 AM

Sign me up as well (if we get tired we’ll hire someone to carry us) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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      #364243 - 03/04/22 11:55 AM

No walking like that for me. Now, horseback I can handle.

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      #364246 - 03/04/22 02:46 PM

I would have loved a walking safari not that long ago. Used to walk from 10 to 30 or 40 KMs a day once during hunts.

Nowadays two blackamatics and a sedan chair might be pleasant from time to time.

On some of these walking safaris they wore through at least one pair of boots.

In non sleeping sickness country horses were also used. Mules and donkeys pre conditioned for tetse might also be used.

Harder hunting on foot physically, game was probably less wary and certainly more numerous. Injured or sick, one might get buried out there. Though explorers such as Stanley and Livingstone often spent much time in a bearer borne litter.

The days of high adventure in Darkest Deepest Africa.

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      #374622 - 01/03/23 12:48 AM

A forgotten hunter

In the early 19th century there were two German naturalists, Robert, 1804 – 1865, and Richard Schomburgk, 1811 -1891. In British service, both explored Guyana from 1835 to 1844. Robert stayed in British service and was knighted “Sir Robert” by queen Victoria. Later he served as British consul in Siam. Several plants and animals are named for him, among them the now extinct Schomburgk’s Deer. Richard returned to Germany first, but emigrated to South Australia in 1849. In 1850 he planted the first vineyard in Down Under near Gawler and founded the Gawler Museum. Later he became director of the Adelaide Botanic Gardens.
Their great nephew Hans Schomburgk, 1880 – 1967, born in Hamburg, wanted to go to the African wilderness. In1898 his family sent him to South Africa to learn farming at a distant relative. Aged 17, he did not care much about farming. Pennieless, he joined the British Natal Mounted Police instead. In Natal he made his first small hunting trips and shot his first buffalo there, besides various plains game. He fought during the 2nd Boer War on the British side.
After the end of hostilities he had himself transferred to the Barotse Police in Rhodesia, right into the then wild Africa. As an officer he took part in some expeditions into the unknown to put the Zambezi – Congo watershed on the map as a possible border between Portuguese Angola and British Rhodesia. His hunting rifle from Natal to Rhodesia was a .303 Martini action single shot by W.W.Greener. Apparently he lost the foreend somewhere in the bush.

(All Photos are from his even dozen books, published in German only afaik)
The European outposts in that part of Africa were connected by oxen drawn express mail:

After their contracts expired by 1906 Hans and his friend McNeil decided to wander through uncharted parts of Africa and live as hunters on their own. First they ventured into Angola, still unoccupied by the Portuguese. His battery then consisted of his Greener .303 and a Westley Richards single shot in .450-400. (photo taken May 30, 1906, near Kafue river)

A photo shows one of his camps there with two buffalo and a giant sable skull:

A closeup of a 44” sable:

(to be continued)


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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: kuduae]
      #374623 - 01/03/23 01:29 AM

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A forgotten hunter

In the early 19th century there were two German naturalists, Robert, 1804 – 1865, and Richard Schomburgk, 1811 -1891. In British service, both explored Guyana from 1835 to 1844. Robert stayed in British service and was knighted “Sir Robert” by queen Victoria. Later he served as British consul in Siam. Several plants and animals are named for him, among them the now extinct Schomburgk’s Deer. Richard returned to Germany first, but emigrated to South Australia in 1849. In 1850 he planted the first vineyard in Down Under near Gawler and founded the Gawler Museum. Later he became director of the Adelaide Botanic Gardens.





Interesting. South Australia was only settled first in 1836. My ancestors arrived 1838 to 1839. 1849 was pretty early. Many of Adelaide's streets were named after pro intent German residents, Grenfell, Rundle, Grote, among others. Now anglicised pronunciation.

Schomburgk, the name I've heard of, either Australia or Africa, or both?

Gawler is between Adelaide and the Barossa.

Thanks for posting. To be confined ...

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Re: Africa vintage pic thread [Re: kuduae]
      #374624 - 01/03/23 01:30 AM

A forgotten hunter 2

In Angola Schomburgk met the then famous Danish elephant hunter Carl Larsen (one of the three .600 NE users mentioned by Truesdell). They became friends and Larsen taught him how to hunt the mighty elephant. In September 1906 Schomburg traded his .450-500 Westley Richards ss “and some cash” for Larsen’s .600 NE Jeffery.
A bit later photo of Schomburgk and .600 NE in central Africa when he had all his trousers destroyed by thorns:

Some game he shot with his .600 on his 1906 - 1909 way through Africa:



That was close!

He travelled through Africa, mostly on foot, constantly hunting for food, specimens and ivory. His trophies on the way to then German East Africa:


On his way, he got a .450 NE by i.Meffert, Suhl too. He also mentions a 9mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Finally he acquired an 8x57 Mauser, firing the then standard load of a 227 gr jacketed bullet at 2040 fps. From then on he shot all game, including buffalo, with the 8mm Mauser and used his .600 for elephant and rhino only. A map of Africa with Schomburg’s travels 1898 to 1909:

Two tusks at 180 pounds each:

In EastAfrica he caught several younf elephants and other animals for the Hagenbeck zoo, Hamburg.
In 1910 he returned to Germany for the first time and published his first book “Wild und Wilde = Game and Savages”
(To be continued)


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      #375635 - 28/03/23 12:23 AM

Dedication and perseverance. Wearing out all your trousers.



Kuduae, please continue .

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      #375637 - 28/03/23 12:59 AM

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A forgotten hunter 2

On his way, he got a .450 NE by i.Meffert, Suhl too. He also mentions a 9mm Mannlicher-Schoenauer. Finally he acquired an 8x57 Mauser, firing the then standard load of a 227 gr jacketed bullet at 2040 fps. From then on he shot all game, including buffalo, with the 8mm Mauser and used his .600 for elephant and rhino only. A map of Africa with Schomburg’s travels 1898 to 1909:

Two tusks at 180 pounds each:

In EastAfrica he caught several younf elephants and other animals for the Hagenbeck zoo, Hamburg.
In 1910 he returned to Germany for the first time and published his first book “Wild und Wilde = Game and Savages”
(To be continued)




Magnificent tusks, 180 lbs.

Looking at that map, what a safari.

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      #378484 - 07/08/23 11:52 PM

Prince Willhelm of Sweden (1884-1965), smoking a cigar after a succesful bull Gorilla hunt in the Congo, a. 1920.



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      #381834 - 09/01/24 06:58 AM

Karl III. von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg in Kenia



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      #381838 - 09/01/24 02:59 PM

Funny.

King Chuck to many of us.

Quite a German moniker he would have.

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      #381847 - 09/01/24 04:34 PM

looks like camel corps, maybe patrol the somali border then? don't know they had it still in this time.
was thinking patrol leader with a double rifle would fit here.

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      #381849 - 09/01/24 11:37 PM

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looks like camel corps, maybe patrol the somali border then? don't know they had it still in this time.
was thinking patrol leader with a double rifle would fit here.




And it does.

I'm going to share it with your comment to FB. See what the reaction is.

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      #382953 - 29/02/24 01:53 AM

Bttt, just relooking at these images again on one huge page.

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      #382957 - 29/02/24 03:36 AM

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Karl III. von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg in Kenia

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Karl III. von Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg in Kenia






Quote:

Quote:

looks like camel corps, maybe patrol the somali border then? don't know they had it still in this time.
was thinking patrol leader with a double rifle would fit here.




And it does.

I'm going to share it with your comment to FB. See what the reaction is.




Reaction was rather boring. Some Germans disagreed with that title and provided an alternative. All Deutsch to me!

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