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Hatari
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460 weatherby vs 500 A²
#107603 - 17/06/08 07:47 PM

What do you think of these big bore for hunting dangerous game (elephant, hippo. buffalo) ?

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WyoJoe
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Re: 460 weatherby vs 500 A² [Re: Hatari]
#107666 - 18/06/08 11:26 PM

I like the idea assuming a person can handle the recoil. I have heard of at least 1 PH who uses the .460.

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Plains99
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Re: 460 weatherby vs 500 A² [Re: WyoJoe]
#107674 - 19/06/08 12:39 AM

I had a chance a year ago to shoot a .460 Weatherby Mark V. I just don't think that many can imagine what an experience that can be. I don't care how effective or ineffective the round may be it is brutally recoiling. I'm sure that in the case of an emergency, a PH would and could use the rifle with little of no regard to recoil... but I can think of no better way of destroying shooting skills than regularly shooting a .460 Weatherby. As a hunting caliber I can think of any number of cartridges that would be more practical. For a PH who regularly has to pull the fat from the fire, it is probably OK... but how many guys like that are there in the world?
I've never shot a 500 but again, what is the point except for a once-in-a-lifetime elephant? And for a hunter, why would you want such a cartridge when so many lesser recoiling calibers exist that are perfectly adequate (at least I'm told so) for dangerous game?

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Schamankungulo
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Loc: Southeastern USA

Re: 460 weatherby vs 500 A² [Re: Plains99]
#107705 - 19/06/08 06:49 PM

I hadda 460 back when I was younger , it is brutal , but I think the 378 is worse .. I too know of one PH who used one , his was cut back to 20" and no brake ..

I think there are many better choices , my concern being recovery for a second shot ..

My Lott at 2280 fps~ will sledgehammer anything on the planet , and I can recover for a second shot ..

Edited by Schamankungulo (19/06/08 06:52 PM)

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albertan
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Loc: Alberta, Canada

Re: 460 weatherby vs 500 A² [Re: Schamankungulo]
#107710 - 19/06/08 10:16 PM

With the anti-terrorist programs in full swing the .460 would not have the .50 caliber problems to deal with. You can always load a .460 (or have it loaded) down to 2400 fps. .45 bullets are common and so is .460 brass.

.50 calibers can have feeding problems. They are so long and fat that binding is a real issue. Even expensive, brand name customs are known to have this problem.

If I were going .50, it would be in .500 Nitro Express in a double. In a bolt I would not trouble myself with anything bigger than a .45 of some sort.

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JPK
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Loc: Chevy Chase, MD

Re: 460 weatherby vs 500 A² [Re: albertan]
#107822 - 21/06/08 02:18 PM

I believe that once you reach the performance of the 458 Lott you have reached the point of diminishing returns in .458". This being true regarding performance for recoil. Past Lott performance you should go up in calibre and bullet weight and not just up in .458" velocity, either with 500 or 550gr .458" bullets.

And by the way, those fellows who have used the Lott with 550gr bullets swear by them.

The 500NE, which provides a 570gr bullet 2150fps, delivers more on game performance than the 458 Lott or 470 Capstick, according to a fellow who has used all three on game. (at least the Capstick and 500 for sure, but I think all three)

For what it's worth,

JPK

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JabaliHunter
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Loc: England

Re: 460 weatherby vs 500 A² [Re: JPK]
#107834 - 21/06/08 10:56 PM

Couldn't agree more! If I were to go above .458 in a bolt action (which I doubt) I would probably look at the .495 A2, although I can't see a huge advantage over the Lott with 550gr woodleighs at 2150fps - except perhaps mammoths!

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