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pajeff
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rifle battery
      #83024 - 25/07/07 08:04 AM

OK. I know this question has been asked ad nauseum. But, I would like to downsize my rifle collection. Starting with a 22RF, what would you choose as the perfect worldwide hunting five rifle battery?

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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83025 - 25/07/07 08:10 AM


17HMR - can do anything a 22 can do and better

30.06 - wide bullet range

375H&H

12 Gauge (prompted by post below !)

Not sure on the others.

Edited by 500Nitro (25/07/07 08:22 AM)

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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83026 - 25/07/07 08:15 AM

.22 rf
.270 Win
.375 H&H
.54 cal Muzzle loader
12 ga pump shotgun (can be used for big game. In some areas rifles are not allowed)

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Re: rifle battery [Re: WyoJoe]
      #83031 - 25/07/07 09:58 AM

.22 LR {cheap and available}

6.5x55 {99% of anything that can be killed can be killed with this, fast}

.375 H&H Magnum {just because I like it and it's a common legal minimum for your African DG}

You don't need the last two. Spend the money you save on them for ammo for the above three and PRACTICE!

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Re: rifle battery [Re: 9.3x57]
      #83035 - 25/07/07 10:32 AM

For australia, i can only think of 4 that are certain.

.22 LR (just the cheapness and availability as mentioned. Is sort of the standard)

.223 Remington (Heaps of ex-military ammo, will never die out)

.308 Winchester (reason as .223 Remington, just that its bigger and more suitable for pigs and allowed to be used on deer, for people in the states i guess .30-06 is a good option)

12 gauge shotgun (when one projectile isn't enough)


The last gun choice would be purely on where you do most of your shooting. For northern Territory I would pick a big bore either .375 H&H or 9.3x74R in a double rifle although the latter is not that popular over here its very popular in Europe so is 8x68S which is also another good large cartridge.

The rest of australia, probably a cartridge in between .22 LR and the .223 Remington. Something like a .22 Hornet, .218 Bee, .17 Remington, maybe even .17 HMR.

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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83053 - 25/07/07 10:22 PM

For my country and the game available:

.243 for small game,cheetal etc.
.270 for ibex,horned sheep
7mm.mag.for nilgai,wild boar(big mean mothers)
375 H&H MAG.for Africa
416 Rigby for big game,elephant,rhino etc.

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Plains99
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Re: rifle battery [Re: iqbal]
      #83054 - 25/07/07 11:05 PM

Yeah, but it's always fun to think about it. I can't include a rimfire if I'm limited to five.
.223 for varmints and predator calling
.243 for long range predator calling and light game
.30-06 for backup on everything else.
.375 H&H as main big game rifle
.458 for dangerous game.
And my 12 gauge...alright so I have six listed.

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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83058 - 25/07/07 11:19 PM

22 rimfire--as stated--cheap to shoot
220 Swift for varmints, small game--anthing up to and through deer and still the ultimate p-dog gun
300 or 338 Win mag--for larger plains game, elk, moose, etc..
375 H&H or 416 for Africa--personally I would take the 416--
12 gauge shotgun--needed to hunt pheasants, ducks, etc..

I have used the 300 and 416 battery on several trips to Africa and have been very, very pleased--in fact my next trip I plan to take 3-excessive I know--but I plan to take a 338, 416 and 470 Nitro--some might say why?? because I can...

Ripp

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Re: rifle battery [Re: Ripp]
      #83063 - 26/07/07 12:35 AM

22
7X64
300MAG
9.3X64
470NE
12GA

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Re: rifle battery [Re: ozhunter]
      #83080 - 26/07/07 07:26 AM

22lr ( because you wanted to include one I would prefer .22 Hornet)
.243 win
.375H+H
.450 NE ( or bigger)
12 or 20 Gauge D/B Shotgun bored cylinder and Full.

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Re: rifle battery [Re: Bramble]
      #83086 - 26/07/07 08:59 AM

I would choose the following for world wide game but for country specific I would change maybe one or two .

.22WMR
.223 Remington
.30/06
.375H&H
.470NE

of course a 12g shotgun but you asked for a rifle battery

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Re: rifle battery [Re: 308]
      #83089 - 26/07/07 10:40 AM

.22 rimfire (cheap and for the pot)
6.5X54 or 55 (flat shooting and light)
8X57 ( good range of medium to heavy bullets; deer to large thin skin game)
.375 H&H (no question about all around) or .404 Jeffrey (the .404 only because it is what it is!)
20 gauge sxs cyl / cyl

Always a good question.

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Re: rifle battery [Re: 88MauSporter]
      #83101 - 26/07/07 07:03 PM

Bit disappointed that one of the all time great has been overlooked, anyway here my 2 bob

22 mag (economical, useful for animals up to meat goats size)
6.5 x 55 (wonderfully accurate, devastating with 155gr megas on all OZ game, Bovines excluded)
9.3 x 62 (can take anything, can be shot all day without developing flinchitis)
Marlin 30/30 (for when a quick action is needed, Boars)
470NE (sounds like a good idea)

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pajeff
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Re: rifle battery [Re: pablo_mauser_66]
      #83115 - 27/07/07 01:42 AM

I would like to thank you all for your inputs and suggestions. After reading the above twelve replies, I have to renege on my original question. I don't think I could limit myself to five hunting rifles. So, here's what I came up with:

22RF- small game/pests
220 Swift- varmint hunting
257 Weatherby- antelope, etc.
7mm Rem. mag- elk. etc.
30-06- backup for all above
9.3X64- backup for two below (where legal)
375 H&H- neavy game
416 Taylor-DG

IMHO, every shooter/hunter needs a good quality 22, 30-06 and 12 guage. Please understand, my initial question was serious. But, it is fun and interesting to ponder this question- probably as long as there are hunters and gun owners. It is also interesting how most of your suggestions were the old established cartridges.Your thoughts?

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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83136 - 27/07/07 07:29 AM

I was reading the post here and all of a sudden realized that I've spent the last 30 or so years trying to give your question the ultimate answer. Here it goes:

22 hornet - Brno Fox (22RF is not legal for hunting in Portugal)
7mmRM - Kiplauf Hubertus Krieghof
9,3X74R - CCS 25 double FN Browning
375HH - Dakota
470NE - Krieghof Classic double

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I don't remember the last time I felt the need of another gun, let alone pure lust.
For sentimental reasons I still keep my first rifle a very worn 30-06 BSA.
Besides these I have used 22RF, 243, 270, 300WM, 9,3x62 and 45-70.
Should I have to keep only one rifle I would get another 9,3x62.

Shotguns will go another day.
Regards

Edited by ducota (28/07/07 01:06 AM)

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WyoJoe
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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83161 - 27/07/07 02:15 PM

Quote:

I would like to thank you all for your inputs and suggestions. After reading the above twelve replies, I have to renege on my original question.....



My gun safe holds 8 long guns so if I can reneg and limit it to that, to my original post I would add a .243, a good lever action (either a Win mod. 94 in .30/30 or Marlin Cowboy action shooter in .45/70) and a Butch Searcy PH model in .500 NE.

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Re: rifle battery [Re: WyoJoe]
      #83165 - 27/07/07 09:59 PM

Mine would consist of
22mag
243 bolt
300WSM bolt
357 H&H bolt
50 class cal bolt(505ibbs vs 500A Square)
500 NItro Double for big DG

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Re: rifle battery [Re: hoppdoc]
      #83169 - 28/07/07 12:02 AM

My response was to sort of go the other way and really force myself to consider NEED {not including shotguns since rifles were specified and not including a specialized small-varmint rifle since I made my list up thinking in terms of game animals}.

Having rethought the question, I would be quite satisfied with the same list, adding only a shotgun for shotgun-only required big game hunting areas and a .223 for small varmints.

So there is the Five I suppose.

Truthfully, though, for all big game hunting anywhere in the world, excluding dangerous game, I could get along quite nicely with just the 6.5x55.

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Re: rifle battery [Re: 9.3x57]
      #83195 - 28/07/07 01:08 PM

Enjoyed reading the responses thus far and having given it some thought many times in my life time. I have the following observations, if at all possible stick with the same action in everyting, except perhaps the 22lr and the shot gun. in my case and if I had to, I could live with 4 guns, 2 Mauser bolt action rifles in 6mm Rem, 300 WM., a 16 gau. on a Mauser 98 and a 22 lr either bolt or semi-auto. The versatility of the loads available for the 6mm & .300 and the overlapping game sizes vs availale loads pretty well covers anything one might hunt anywhere. Having said all that I will keep all my babies as long as I can. A list follows 22LR, 22-250, 220 Swift, 6mm REM, 7x57, 32.20, 303 British, 300 WM, 38.55 and "several" shotguns. --- John303

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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83237 - 29/07/07 06:57 PM

Maybe I am too practical but I think this list offers the most bang for the buck. Even given the recently high Winchester prices, one could probably get totally set up with scopes, a boatload of ammo and everything below for well under $10K.

.22 LR...Kimber Classic
One can buy 5000 rounds for around $100...tough to argue with that.

.308 Win...Kimber Classic
Cheap to shoot with universally available 147 grain mil. surp. ammo. One can use 110 grain bullets for varmints or 200 grainers for bigger stuff.

.416 Rem...Win Model 70
Just make brass from .375H&H if you have to. Use 400 grain solids for the big stuff and cheap 350 grain hard cast bullets for larger plains game.

12 guage...Rem 870
This gun is durable, offers ubiquitous spare parts and cheap ammo for birds. Use slugs in the thick stuff for deer sized game. Cut it off at the end of the mag tube for a defensive weapon.

8 bore...front stuffer
For use when the .416 feels small. Use on the largest African game, cast your own bullets or round balls and make your own black powder in a pinch. Keep a minimum stash of 1000 musket caps.

The only weapon I would add to this list for any "practical" reason would be a 9mm Browning hi-power.

Best,

John

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Re: rifle battery [Re: pajeff]
      #83258 - 30/07/07 08:41 AM

22 LR

223 Rem.

270 Win.

338 Win. Mag.

416 Rem. Mag.

AD

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Re: rifle battery [Re: allenday]
      #83272 - 30/07/07 01:22 PM

Quote:

22 LR

223 Rem.

270 Win.

338 Win. Mag.

416 Rem. Mag.

AD



Ditto!! BT

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Re: rifle battery [Re: Blacktail53]
      #83283 - 30/07/07 09:14 PM

22lr
243 win
7mm magnum
375 H&H
500 NItro

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Re: rifle battery [Re: Farhan]
      #83391 - 01/08/07 09:30 PM

In SxS doubles:
.22 Savage
.303
.400 x 3-inch
.577 x 2 3/4 NE
12-bore Paradox

In bolt-rifles:
.22 LR
.222 Remington
7x57
.416 Taylor
.500 Jeffery


This assumes I could load and access my own ammo. If separation from one's ammo was a liklihood, then the .375 H&H and the .458 WinMag would probably get the nod.

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Re: rifle battery [Re: Marrakai]
      #83532 - 04/08/07 11:43 AM

For me it would be:-

.22 rimfire
7mm08
9.3x62
416 Rem Mag

mlg

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