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I have a confession to make ....
      #79782 - 02/06/07 04:18 PM

Stay tuned ...




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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #79791 - 02/06/07 09:15 PM



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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: Marrakai]
      #79857 - 03/06/07 10:00 PM

AND THEN ! !

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #79910 - 04/06/07 08:35 AM





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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: BFaucett]
      #79955 - 05/06/07 07:42 AM

Have you thought about seeing a priest?

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: Plains99]
      #79957 - 05/06/07 08:11 AM


Don't worry guys, he's from South Australia,
the land of Crow Eaters, Inter breeding and
other things we shouldn't mention !

For the sake of harmony, we just need to
let it run it's course.........


It's OK John, we understand.

SMILE !


ps - good to see you at the Show last weekend.

Edited by 500Nitro (05/06/07 08:12 AM)


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: 500Nitro]
      #79964 - 05/06/07 10:57 AM

You brought a 30.06?

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: Gibbs505]
      #79980 - 05/06/07 03:56 PM

Quote:

You brought a 30.06?



No, he bought a Remington lever action 45/70 and shoots hollow points...


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: DPhillips]
      #80022 - 06/06/07 02:34 PM

Ha ha. I should never post anything until I have the rest of it ready.

Some of you are close.

Marrakai,

I hope that musical score is the "1812 Overture" not "Dancing through the tulips"?

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #80023 - 06/06/07 02:34 PM



45/70

Sacrilage !


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: 500Nitro]
      #80043 - 06/06/07 10:29 PM

And some of us are daft. But then so is most of the rest of the world. Dave

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: 500Nitro]
      #80045 - 07/06/07 12:23 AM

Well I do have to confess I do have a .30-06. No I haven't bought it recently but about 23 years ago. It has travelled to the Northern Territory, to NZ, to Victoria after sambar and hog deer, to the Kymberleys in WA, even to Zimbabwe. Not to mention the many times used on deer, goats and other game here in SA.

It is a very accurate rifle, capable of shooting a third of an inch groups at a 100 yards, and I have been successful at times to using it for even 300 to 400 metre shots.

My confession is ........

............ it has a Monte Carlo stock.


A photo displaying my embarrassment and plan of future salvation

At one time groovy and hip, now it is a bit embarrassing.

Being a Model 1200 Delux Parker Hale with a Mauser 98 Santa Barbara action it was in the 70's quite fashionable. Probably still is with some Weatherby shooters.

Even worse it actually shines like a mirror in sunlight.

So I had a mission during this years SHOT Show. To acquire a nice piece of walnut, and to visit a good stockmaker to have a classic styled stock made from it to bring new life to the rifle with some minor metal work such as the bolt handle and perhaps safety to be done as well.

Roger Vardy had a stand at the SHOT Show with many drooling visitors looking at his lovely pieces of walnut. I visited his stand twice on the first day and purchased this piece of wood. Another blank also caught my eye. Much too good for me, but I advised him I would return the next day.

The next day I did return and acquired a second blank of walnut. More of this story to be told soon.


A lovely walnut blank purchased from Roger Vardy for the .30-06 project.

Ross Waghorn, the stockmaker was nearby and took delivery of my blank straight away and an appointment was made for the Monday to put together a plan for the .30-06 project.

Some enjoyable discussions and details of the future stock were itemised. Below is the future plan for the stock.


The plan for the future stock.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #80048 - 07/06/07 12:37 AM

That will be a beautiful rifle when it's finished John.

I presume you will then burn the Monte-Carlo stock to get rid of the evidence?

I see you have drawn several bolt handles, I personally would go with a straight one.

Erik

Ps. I'm glad your confession wasn't that you'd bought a 45/70 double rifle.


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: EricD]
      #80050 - 07/06/07 12:46 AM

Wait until you see the second walnut stock blank.

The problem with the above project is I think I may need to arrange some additional metal work to bring the barrelled action to par with the future stock.

The future stock? I will keep it. It might become trendy again one day.


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #80077 - 07/06/07 06:12 AM

Why you little floozy..... a monte carlo stocked '06.

What is next ? Going to tell us you actually prefer bolt actions to DR's ??

Good looking wood, perhaps enough to offset your fashion error.

Save that old stock, on a cold winter night it might make some nice firewood.


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: AzGuy]
      #80101 - 07/06/07 03:25 PM

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Why you little floozy..... a monte carlo stocked '06.




Yes it is a little bit flamboyant. But I bet I am not the only one to have owned one.


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      #80102 - 07/06/07 05:54 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Why you little floozy..... a monte carlo stocked '06.




Yes it is a little bit flamboyant. But I bet I am not the only one to have owned one.




I was guilty of the same. But to my defence, I passed it on to my wife.


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: EricD]
      #80107 - 07/06/07 07:38 PM

John,

Great looking blanks- would be perfect with an Oberndorf or Brno ZG-47 action

Four of my ZG-47's are calling for new wood stocks of good quality

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: Yochanan]
      #80171 - 08/06/07 05:49 PM

What , no barrel band and thin english forend..
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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: ozhunter]
      #80173 - 08/06/07 06:54 PM

Ozhunter

I may use a bipod on the rifle from time to time so went for a swivel stud on the forend.

No slim English forend on this rifle. Perhaps on a .318 project one day.

A .30-06 is American after all.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #80177 - 08/06/07 07:49 PM

Quote:



A .30-06 is American after all.




This is true..
Can't a Harris bipod be used on a barrel mounted stud?
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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: ozhunter]
      #80179 - 08/06/07 08:08 PM

Quote:

Quote:



A .30-06 is American after all.




This is true..
Can't a Harris bipod be used on a barrel mounted stud?
Cheers,
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No, generally not.

Wrong type of stud.

Mounting it on the barrel affects (or can)
affect the accuracy.


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: 500Nitro]
      #80200 - 09/06/07 03:06 AM

A bipod on the barrel will affect the point of aim and/or accuracy.

On the forend also allows a sling to be used for off hand shooting to steady the shot as well.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #80450 - 12/06/07 10:48 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Why you little floozy..... a monte carlo stocked '06.




Yes it is a little bit flamboyant. But I bet I am not the only one to have owned one.




Maybe, maybe not. But you and Erik are the only ones admitting it.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: mickey]
      #127182 - 15/02/09 11:22 PM

Well as of the end of last month it is finally back home.


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      #127194 - 16/02/09 01:47 AM

John,

Advance congratulations as we wait for the pictures. That is a gorgeous piece of wood and the rifle should be a magnificent beauty now!

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #127242 - 16/02/09 10:53 AM

hurry up then,we have been waiting since `07

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: gryphon]
      #127246 - 16/02/09 11:15 AM

I agree ! We see so many ugly guns these days so please show us a beautyful one ! That wood is exceptional and we can`t wait any longer !

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #131459 - 04/04/09 10:34 PM

Quote:

Well as of the end of last month it is finally back home.

Pictures coming soon.




Errr John ...have you forgotten something?????????????????????????????????


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #183539 - 13/06/11 02:42 PM

Took the .30-06 for a walk in the last two weeks, for sambar with Gryphon, it used to be my main hunting rifle for virtually everything.

Been using my "cowboy" BLR in .308 a lot recently instead as the .30-06 did not have a scope on it. Ordered a set of Conetrol mounts for it and had a Schmidt and Bender 4x scope set aside for it, but when the Conetrol mounts arrived, they were missing one base, and also the rings were too low for the bolt to clear the scope ...

Sort of got put aside for a while, too long, but with the need for a sambar rifle, the old Hillver Bridge mounts and 4x Weaver got put back on, and re-sighted in, in the dark before driving over to Melbourne over night on Saturday to arrive at the SHOT Show on Sunday morning.

Still shoots wonderfully, the last two 200 gr Nosler Partition Semi-pointed printed maybe a half inch apart at a 100 yards. Not bad for shooting in the dark with a torch illuminating the target!

Did not get to fire a shot in anger at sambar, but did see a couple which isn't too bad. Gryphon donated to me a nice backstrap from the hind he shot for meat, so I will be dining on sambar this month!

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #183833 - 16/06/11 08:34 AM

Quote:

A bipod on the barrel will affect the point of aim and/or accuracy.

On the forend also allows a sling to be used for off hand shooting to steady the shot as well.




John, I have played with the concept of using a sling for steadying the rifle mounted with the barrel band stud.
I found that with the sling held to the fore end with a good grip and a bit of slack ahead of the hand I could hold it tight enough to easily give a hasty sling help to getting a steadier shot off.
The other good thing is that it is not determined by the sling length as is the usual fore end mounted sling stud as with a longer sling length to have the rifle ride lower ion the shoulder you can simply grip the sling further back and bring it forward to the forend till there is enough tension round the off side upper arm to give the steadying effect.

Looking forward to seeing the rifle as the blank shows excellent promise. Any decission on the other blank you got. You do know that you will have to do a 318WR soooner or later so you may as well do it now if the second blank is aas good as you indicated.


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: VonGruff]
      #186725 - 28/07/11 11:47 AM

You still haven't posted any pictures of the final rifle . . .

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: Oldsarge]
      #186761 - 29/07/11 12:25 AM

I didn't post them as I wasn't happy with the look of the scope and mounts. The original Hilver Steel bridge mounts and a 4x Weaver steel scope. Both work fine however.

Though have used it on a few hunts that way including the recent sambar trip with Gryph. Had to put all the old stuff back on for the hunt.

Had a set of Conetrol mounts sent over, but they didn't work out as the rings were too low for the bolt, and they only sent one base not the two ordered!

Got a couple sets of Warne QD mounts on hand now instead. Only very recently.

The next problem is the 4x Swarovski scope (bought second hand) may not have a tube long and too short eye relief ... will see this weekend.

I never took photos as haven't been happy with the final look, but could have taken "progress" photos I guess ...

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #186787 - 29/07/11 05:53 AM

Yeah, you could.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: Oldsarge]
      #192952 - 03/11/11 09:08 AM

Hmmm not sure quite what the problem with a Monte carlo stock is. Although I think losing the white line spacers would be good. here is a P-H 1200 Super straight out of the box still with hang tag:-





Then fitted out:-



Scope is a Leupold Vari X 111 of 2.3-8 vaiiable in Leupld Q/T lever op mounts. The rifle is a ot catalogued special order and chambered for 7.92mm


The inletting was very poor so it has been re-bedded by a real gunsmith and checked with Privi Partisen 196 grn ammunition and shoots around MOA with it. Now a different version of the P-H Monte carlo stock:-




The original factory finish hid this figuring. This one is a .308 1100 Lwt.

Now the question is what happened to the origina P-H stock.. If you look under the butt pad or possible in the barrel channel if it's not been attacked a by a free floating advocate it will bear the mark SILE as that is who supplied P-H and also the late BSA stocks.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: Brithunter]
      #192953 - 03/11/11 09:11 AM


Parker Hale - our first CF here in Aust in 22.250.

Huge action, small round, whispy barrel, 2 foot flame out the end that killed all night vision.

But they were very popular.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: 500Nitro]
      #192956 - 03/11/11 12:07 PM

Quote:


Parker Hale - our first CF here in Aust in 22.250.

Huge action, small round, whispy barrel, 2 foot flame out the end that killed all night vision.

But they were very popular.

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Yep, that was my very first centrefire rifle.....

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P.S. C'mon John, some pics anyway.......


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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: MarkR]
      #192958 - 03/11/11 12:53 PM

Our one came from the Eley factory here in Aus, it was used as a "test" gun or something - it used to be in the cabinet with a few others, most of which I or my father ended up with.

Greener 12G shotgun, Webley & Scott 20 bore, Anschutz .22 Rifle being a few others.

I never liked the Parker Hale and it put me off 22.250 and Parker Hale's for ever.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: MarkR]
      #192975 - 03/11/11 10:37 PM

Quote:

P.S. C'mon John, some pics anyway.......




Actually fitted the new mounts and scope last week, plus a handfull of other scopes, to the Tikka double and also the Mauser M03. Had the camera out but too dark outside when finished. Will do it, but most of my daylight hours are getting used up at the moment with more mundane stuff ...

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #193580 - 11/11/11 03:50 AM

"I've a confession to make ... the pics took too long, but here they now are."












These two photos could be redone without the bags I think.

Still need to find the open sights and put them back onto the rifle.

Basically a simple re-modelling of a Parker Hale 1200 Delux. Replacement of the stock from a blank supplied by Roger Vardy. Stockwork by Ross Waghorn, including the buffalo horn forend. Some metal work ie replacement of the bolt handle by Bob De Vries.

The barrel could do with a clean up and re-blueing one day.


And Blitzen was very excited by the photo session.

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Re: I have a confession to make .... [Re: NitroX]
      #193582 - 11/11/11 04:30 AM

Sweeeeeeeeeeet! And well worth the wait. Good job, that man.

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      #193583 - 11/11/11 04:57 AM

Excellent work, great finish, a very nice rifle!!! A great rifle, you must be pleased!!! / Staffan

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      #193609 - 11/11/11 10:35 PM

Hi John,


That looks really 'Spiffy' the grain is lovely and you can't beat Ross Waghorn for stock making and Rodger Vardy for blanks.

I had a 1200 Deluxe in .243 but it had that confounded 'Gloss' finish which spoilt it in my eyes.

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      #193615 - 12/11/11 12:08 AM

Lovely lines and well proportioned. Great rifle.

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Went looking for this thread, so bttt.

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      #270937 - 24/09/15 11:53 PM

Great looking rifle--congrats..

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That is nice - well done.

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One day I must take better photos.

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      #347834 - 13/12/20 04:52 AM

Nice looking rifle John.
photos of Blitzen (or any dog) always brings a smile too.

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Still waiting for those pictures.

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Still waiting for those pictures.




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My confession is ........
............ it has a Monte Carlo stock.
............... it is a bit embarrassing.

Being a Model 1200 Delux Parker Hale with a Mauser 98 Santa Barbara action it was in the 70's quite fashionable. Probably still is with some Weatherby shooters.

Even worse it actually shines like a mirror in sunlight.




Don't feel bad at all about this one John, I have one too but in .308 Norma Magnum!
Great trigger on mine........have to agree with you one the stock though - but it was all the rage here back in the late '70's & early '80's!
By the way your new take on the stock is far more practical & classical - back to the 'future', what is old is new again!
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      #347857 - 13/12/20 10:40 AM

VERY nicely done - BRAVO!

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      #347859 - 13/12/20 11:19 AM

If I could change one thing about my "new" custom stock is I would have a shorter forend. It looks better when the24 inch barrel is fully shown in photos. However more classic is a shorter forend.

One is never fully pleased ....

I must compare it to the Whitworth and see if there is any difference.


PS the photos were earlier in the thread.

I will have to post photos from the .30-06 thread onto this one as well. As "tribute" to the rifle.

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      #347860 - 13/12/20 11:33 AM

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Don't feel bad at all about this one John, I have one too but in .308 Norma Magnum!




Are you channelling Bob Penfold?

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Great trigger on mine........have to agree with you one the stock though - but it was all the rage here back in the late '70's & early '80's!
By the way your new take on the stock is far more practical & classical - back to the 'future', what is old is new again!
Lovely piece mate, I hope you get out with it soon




I think of the stock as the "Classic American". Some classic Brit features, but also designed for modern scopes and also the lomger forend. Which are features of the modern classic stocks in the USA. And probably appropriate for a .30-06.

As for my joke of "channelling Bob Penfold". I was influenced and enjoyed reading the articles of Bob Penfold and Col Allison in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

Bon of course used a .308 Norma Magnum with a stepped barrel, obviously rechambered from a .30-06.

Col Allison wrote a lot about his 7mm Remington Magnum and also the .30-06. He re-barrelled his .30-06 to 7mm Rem Mag. Later saw wisdom and had a .30-06 again.

Articles about hunting in Alaska and Africa, Australia and NZ.

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      #347869 - 13/12/20 12:14 PM

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If I could change one thing about my "new" custom stock is I would have a shorter forend. It looks better when the24 inch barrel is fully shown in photos. However more classic is a shorter forend.

One is never fully pleased ....

I must compare it to the Whotworth and see if there is any difference.


PS the photos were earlier in the thread.

I will have to post photos from the .30-06 thread onto this one as well. As "tribute" to the rifle.




Nice photo of the rifle John..

I actually have a pre-64 Winchester in 300H&H at the gunsmiths getting redone as we speak so i found your comments on the stock interesting

The original one is not in good shape..have to have it either redone or have a custom one done..

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Nice photo of the rifle John..

I actually have a pre-64 Winchester in 300H&H at the gunsmiths getting redone as we speak so i found your comments on the stock interesting

The original one is not in good shape..have to have it either redone or have a custom one done..




Go back in the thread. Lots of other photos. I DO want to take more photos, as I used some big rifle rest sandbags to display the rifle and they look silly.

I am not an expert on stock designs. But my take on the classic Brit stock it has less wood, a much shorter forend, and also drop at heel, for open sight use.

The classic American looks like my stock. Straight comb for good scope use, and the longer forend.

If I ever get my .318 WR made, it will probably be a combination. I have admired a stock I saw on a magazine cover of an original .318 WR , black and dark with age, but a short forend. BUT nowadays unless only set up for open sights, the stock does need the straight comb for use with the scope.

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      #347876 - 13/12/20 12:34 PM

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"I've a confession to make ... the pics took too long, but here they now are."












These two photos could be redone without the bags I think.

Still need to find the open sights and put them back onto the rifle.

Basically a simple re-modelling of a Parker Hale 1200 Delux. Replacement of the stock from a blank supplied by Roger Vardy. Stockwork by Ross Waghorn, including the buffalo horn forend. Some metal work ie replacement of the bolt handle by Bob De Vries.

The barrel could do with a clean up and re-blueing one day.


And Blitzen was very excited by the photo session.




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      #347882 - 13/12/20 04:25 PM

NICE !!!!

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      #347884 - 13/12/20 07:28 PM

Very nice restauration work and now an interesting British & American classic combination in style!
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      #347886 - 13/12/20 10:59 PM

From the

"Why you can't go wrong with the .30-06" thread

My first centrefire was a .222 Remington. At the time the most popular centrefire in Australia.

My second was a .30-06. At the time the most popular hunting cartridge in the USA. But nowhere near the popularity here in Australia of course. The .243 and .270 was the standard at the time for deer and medium game.

I shot many feral goats with my .222. But after a trip with too many wounded goats needing follow up to finish off, and also shot my "largest horned billy" ever, several times in the chest, but it ran off into the bush. A search could not find its body. I am sure it was dead.

So I bought my .30-06 and never lost another wounded goat, and also don't believe I had anymore goat follow ups. I remember one nanny came running out a few dozen yards away from me, above it on the mountain slope, looking down hill for what disturbed it. A Nosler Solid Base HP at the base of the skull completely exploded its head, bits falling all over including behind me! I also had my longest ever shoots on medium game, 400 yards or more. A herd of feral goats fleeing me on from another mountain slope, fleeing along a ledge above a cliff. I managed to snipe each goat in line in turn. Until I wounded one, gut shot, and it fell down the cliff. And bleated in the rocks below. Try as I could I couldn't hit it to finish it off down there. Several shots until I hit it properly and it died.

Most deer I have shot has been with my .30-06, my two red stags, most fallow, my sambar, I have carried it on every sambar hunt. Even my small hog deer trophy stag! Not my chital. A .308 was used there. I have shot a lot of meat deer with a some other rifles, starting with my .222s and also 6.5x55 but most trophies with the .30-06.

Feral pigs, I have used all sorts of my rifles.

Not a water buffalo. But I did carry my .30-06 on my first Top End trip with 220 gr Norma RNSPs loaded up by the previous owner of the rifle for that purpose. Ah yes, that was another reason for buying the .30-06, trying to take a buffalo with it. Did not find any on that trip. At the time the buffalo were not as far South as where we hunted then. St Vigeon Station South of the Roper River. An abandoned cattle station, the owners had just walked off it, unable to make it work. Every man and his dog in the NT was hunting there. Later it was given to the Aborigines as another reserve. I reckon I still have that box of ammo somewhere ... but did shoot a Volkswagen combivan with it. We tried all sorts of ammo on it. A burned out VW van lost and stuck in the bush forever.

BTW on the same trip found a whole diesel fuel tanker abandoned in the bush. Fuel of diesel. What had evidently happened, was the trailer got stuck in the mud at the beginning of the wet. The prime mover detached and got out of there. And the large diesel tanker trailer stayed there for the entire wet, the river crossing flooded and the roads underwater. The owners had not yet recovered it as the Wet was only just over when we were there. We did sample a few jerry cans of diesel from it ... no doubt locals would pass it with empty tanks, and leave with full ones ... ?

Shot a lot of donkeys with my .30-06. A few camels. Scrub bulls? I can't remember?

Most of my African plains game have been taken with my .30-06. I did have some troubles with the 180 gr Nosler Partitions acting like FMJs on that first trip. 200 gr Semi Pointed Nosler Partitions I also had along worked fine. They don't make those since then. Took warthog, impala, duiker, zebra, wildebeest, kudu and also an eland. Another (dickhead) PH said it couldn't be done. A shot and a finisher to speed it along. the eland was a very enjoyable hunt.

And my one and only NZ feral sheep/ram.

A few rabbits even, and some foxes. Some skips.

I remember trying Remington accelerator sabot ammo in it. A .224 55gr SP at 4000 fps. I remember it shoot about a foot higher than my usual 150 gr loads. From memory was not that accurate, maybe one and a half inches at a 100 yards. Did flatten a skip at close range with one.

I really wish saboted ammo was researched more and created more. Imagine being able to use a .375 with good bullets to hunt medium game with. Loading up say 180 gr .30 calibre or 140 gr 6.5mm etc. Magnum performance plus. A new thread I think.

My restocked Parker Hale 1200 Delux Mauser 98 in .30-06 remains my first reached for rifle for any medium game and deer hunt. I need to find the open sights for it, and put those back on. Or new ones fitted.

It now ears a different scope. I started with a Weaver steel 4x scope with a tapered post and fine cross hair reticle. Now it has a second hand S&B 4x scope in QD mounts with a German post and cross hairs reticle. Whatever it is called? I find a 4x scope adequate for medium game, out to 300 metres to even 400 metres. If one knows the rifle one is shooting.

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My one and only sambar stag, taken with thanks to Gryphon. If he ever visits here still.




A good afternoon's work?




My first trophy deer.


No rifle in the photo, but my South Aust Red Stag taken with the .30-06.

I would like to try 250 gr RNSPs in it oneday. Maybe I don't need a .318 Westley Richards? O)

And before I forget. I at one time planned to replace my Parker Hale M98 .30-06 (God Forbid) with a M70 Featherweight Winchester in .30-06. That rifle could not be made to shoot better than six inches at a one yards .... so was one of few rifle I have ever disposed of.

AND I have TWO other .30-06s, one a barreled action of a Colombian FN M98 Mauser rebarreled to .30-06 by the Colombians I assume. Kept it for a custom project, however esteemed members here said it is too pitted.



And the other is a double rifle barrel set for my Tikka/Valmet. Since it had final fitting for my double action, I have not used it. In the last month or so, have been thinking of giving it a real try. I have been thinking of attempting to return to go to being a "double rifle purist". I think the .30-06 will be able to do ANYTHING the M98 can do, including shooting at range. At least with one of the barrels.



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      #347887 - 14/12/20 12:42 AM

For what it is worth, I tried my brothers .06, but passed it on. My M70 FWT .308 works for me as your
'06 does for you. Had it 40 years and it still shoots sub minute of angle and is my main go-to rifle for big game.
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      #347904 - 14/12/20 07:43 AM

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Quote:

Don't feel bad at all about this one John, I have one too but in .308 Norma Magnum!




Are you channelling Bob Penfold?

[quote
Great trigger on mine........have to agree with you one the stock though - but it was all the rage here back in the late '70's & early '80's!
By the way your new take on the stock is far more practical & classical - back to the 'future', what is old is new again!
Lovely piece mate, I hope you get out with it soon




I think of the stock as the "Classic American". Some classic Brit features, but also designed for modern scopes and also the lomger forend. Which are features of the modern classic stocks in the USA. And probably appropriate for a .30-06.

As for my joke of "channelling Bob Penfold". I was influenced and enjoyed reading the articles of Bob Penfold and Col Allison in the late 1970s and early 1980s.

Bon of course used a .308 Norma Magnum with a stepped barrel, obviously rechambered from a .30-06.

Col Allison wrote a lot about his 7mm Remington Magnum and also the .30-06. He re-barrelled his .30-06 to 7mm Rem Mag. Later saw wisdom and had a .30-06 again.

Articles about hunting in Alaska and Africa, Australia and NZ.




Spot on John - you got me in one!
Appears we have read the same articles, those by Mr Penfold have long since got to the bin from over use!
Wonderful cartridge the .308NM
As to your stock, the only change if it was mine would be to also slim it down just a little at the fore end as you mentioned.
It is one hell of a very nice hunting rifle there John none the less!

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      #347906 - 14/12/20 09:10 AM

Really nice looking rifle!

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Quote:














These two photos could be redone without the bags I think.

Still need to find the open sights and put them back onto the rifle.

Basically a simple re-modelling of a Parker Hale 1200 Delux. Replacement of the stock from a blank supplied by Roger Vardy. Stockwork by Ross Waghorn, including the buffalo horn forend. Some metal work ie replacement of the bolt handle by Bob De Vries.

The barrel could do with a clean up and re-blueing one day.


And Blitzen was very excited by the photo session.







Just revisiting my rifle. I MUST take new photos without the shooting bag! And it needs those open sights. They are somewhere! Or get new ones. And the young fellow Blitzen is a very old fe!low now almost 15.

I have thought of rebarrelling this to .318 WR but that would be very stupid

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      #370315 - 15/10/22 01:47 AM

Still a great looking rifle.

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      #370446 - 18/10/22 08:29 AM

As is Blitzen, just love expressions on hunting dog faces

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As is Blitzen, just love expressions on hunting dog faces




My old mate, gone almost eight months ago, two days short of his Christmas Eve birthday, and age of 15 years.

Yes he has intense expressions, common of pointers.

Seeing this image earlier reminded me I need similar of the young Donder monster.

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