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maybe its obsolete but a gun without looks like a woman without breast.
if you like this?

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Like female breasts without nipples ...

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There are weapons that were always designed without iron sights and that definitely have a certain style.

Here for example a Lloyd rifle caliber 7mm rem mag, a rifle specifically designed for deer hunting in Scotland.



http://gavingardiner.com/BidCat/detail.asp?SaleRef=0007&LotRef=5

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I decide what the rifle will shoot and at what range.

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For me, a hunting rifle has normally open sights. However, every shooters, and especially long range shooters, knows that a free-swinging barrel is better in terms of precision.

David Lloyd's rifles were primarily intended for long range shooting at deers and were also zeroed in up to 400 yards, according to the customer's wishes. Strangely, Lloyd only used scopes with fixed magnification and these 4x or 6x, which is paradoxical for rifles that were intended for long range shooting.

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In addition, the scopes were delivered with the turrets removed, which makes subsequent regulation with another ammunition very difficult. It was a very personal concept from the manufacturer. The rifles were built from the fifties until supposedly the early nineties. According to him, it should be very robust rifles for demanding deer hunters in the highlands.

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By the way, David Lloyd is also the designer of the cartridge that was later called 244 H&H Magnum.

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Since the ammunition with which the rifle above was regulated was not known, it was difficult to first find a suitable load and then to gain with tools an access to the control of the scope. We finally succeeded, and the rifle also shoots very accurate.

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Well done.

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But you have to take into account the social environment and the hunting concept of a certain class of hunters from the British Islands. You look at Rigby's advertising and you will understand what I mean.

By the way, I bought this rifle by Rigby in London, but I am not a Gentleman Hunter British-style.

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Can you elaborate? Just interested.

Perhaps you mean the "gentleman" huntersthe client hunter type whether in Scotland or Africa where for examplethe gamekeeper carries the rifle for the client.The PH or gamekeeper has the binoculars and sights the game. Works out the stalk. Positions the didn't hunter. Tells the the animal to shoot and where to shoot it. The client pulls the trigger, hands the rifle back Later the beast is delivered to the game skinning room the triumphant hunter toasts his success with a Scotch. ???

Not much hands on A rifle already setup to be theoretically full proof is loaned to the client.

I remember the Brit approach when hunting Roebuck in Northumberland Not as bad as I describe sarcastically above, but I get the picture. I did get to sit in a highseatby myself for a few hours in the middle of the day.

We've probably all been there or partly there. Especially with African PHs. I had one saying I didn't need binoculars as the PH does it all. All I needed was to shoot the rifle .... I asked him if the arrogant c#nt wanted to pull the trigger as well . Not those words but that attitude in my words. Most of these dumb c#nt PHs don't realise they are only used by some clients mostly because it is required by law. Access to properties could be purchased directly just like many outfitters do. Their camp setup is handy of course. They have more experience judging African trophies of course. Blacks are often very good trackers. Hiring a good one is hit and miss, so if the PH has good trackers that's a plus. Skinning,trophy prep, if you don't at home, you can do it in Africa.

A guy in the 1980s wrote articles on how to hunt South Africa solo. Hire a 4WD, What gear to buy. How one could buy access directly to game farms hunting areas. Farm staff might accompany you. How to sell the meat to reduce costs etc. I think later on banning foreign hunters from Soo hunting was enforced

Friends and acquaintances of mine used to hunt Zimbabwe solo. A local farmer provided a vehicle and camp equipment and some staff. Self hunting including buffalo and lion. They purchased hunt quotas and dates in auctions in the citizens hunting areas. With Mugabe's farm invasion era and south African white outfitters poaching Zimbabwe , these auctions were ffffed up.

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Can you elaborate without being rude? Just interested.

Perhaps you mean the "gentleman" huntersthe client hunter type whether in Scotland or Africa where for examplethe gamekeeper carries the rifle for the client.The PH or gamekeeper has the binoculars and sights the game. Works out the stalk. Positions the didn't hunter. Tells the the animal to shoot and where to shoot it. The client pulls the trigger, hands the rifle back Later the beast is delivered to the game skinning room the triumphant hunter toasts his success with a Scotch. ???

Not much hands on A rifle already setup to be theoretically full proof is loaned to the client.

I remember the Brit approach when hunting Roebuck in Northumberland Not as bad as I describe sarcastically above, but I get the picture. I did get to sit in a highseatby myself for a few hours in the middle of the day.

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Interesting concepts - all.

Not for me.

I decide what the rifle will shoot and at what range.

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In addition, the cartridge seem not to deliver ballistically what it promises. It was not a success.

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There are weapons that were always designed without iron sights and that definitely have a certain style.

Here for example a Lloyd rifle caliber 7mm rem mag, a rifle specifically designed for deer hunting in Scotland.



http://gavingardiner.com/BidCat/detail.asp?SaleRef=0007&LotRef=5

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