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First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :)
      #306852 - 26/10/17 11:58 PM

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/arti...m_campaign=1017

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #306856 - 27/10/17 01:52 AM

yawn

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: cordite]
      #306858 - 27/10/17 03:31 AM

Yup.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #306859 - 27/10/17 03:39 AM

Reading the announcement, another example of cart before the horse.

That's the problem no horse.

Where is the gun?

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DoubleD]
      #306865 - 27/10/17 04:55 AM

Looks pretty much the same as the 270 WSM except with a 6.5mm bullet.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #306882 - 27/10/17 08:33 PM

I'd rather see Hornady resume production and availability of some of the now extinct projectiles that were common ten years ago, such as their (#3715) .375 270 grain RNSP.

It was one of the few reasonably priced options that feed smoothly through the spool magazine of a Mannlicher Schoenauer M1910.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Rothhammer1]
      #306889 - 27/10/17 08:56 PM

If only someone resurrected the 6.5x68mm.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: NitroX]
      #306900 - 28/10/17 12:13 AM

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Reading the announcement, another example of cart before the horse.

That's the problem no horse.

Where is the gun?




Fairly certain if you really want one you can have one..take a action to a gunsmith and he will build whatever you want..."horse" of any color..

Have done this myself with other "newer" calibers..example was the 26 Nosler..bought a Nosler rifle felt like picking up a 2x6...sold it had my own built...using it next weekend for mule deer ..

As for myself, I see no advantage this offers over my Cooper 6.5/284 I currently use for hunting..AND as I shoot about 20 rounds a year out of it..the barrel will certainly last the rest of my lifetime..I have way more yesterdays than I will tomorrows...

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #306933 - 28/10/17 11:20 AM

This one is dumb. Not sure why they didn’t standardize the 6.5 4S (6.5 SAUM) as they make the brass for GA Precision.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: SharpsNitro]
      #306972 - 29/10/17 08:54 AM

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This one is dumb. Not sure why they didn’t standardize the 6.5 4S (6.5 SAUM) as they make the brass for GA Precision.




Has me wondering the same thing.


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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Rule303]
      #306975 - 29/10/17 02:53 PM

Once I bought the 605 creedmoor there was no need for any other 6mm in my arsonal.I have a custom AR10 in 308 and a 338 lupua and all are barn burners.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Wayne59]
      #307005 - 30/10/17 10:49 AM

G'Day Fella's,

Thanks for sharing Ripp.
I was wondering how long it would be, before somebody introduced a commercial Short-Fat cased 6.5mm.
I was primarily expecting it to be a 6.5 WSM or a Ruger Compact Magnum.
It should make a great option for both the Long Rangers (Target), and Mountain Hunters.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Homer]
      #308678 - 05/12/17 11:03 AM

6.5-06 in a different shaped powder bottle (again)
Should be good................. just like the 6.5-06 and the 6.5-284.
Same bullets at the same speed, or close enough that whatever difference there is (if any) will be irrelevant.

"New and Improved" is usually just new. In this case the newness is probably only the shape of the shell.

Nothing wrong with it at all, but nothing "more right" than what we've had for 70 years.

I'll wait and see.


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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: NitroX]
      #308682 - 05/12/17 11:02 PM

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If only someone resurrected the 6.5x68mm.




The 6.5x68 is alive, and well !

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DoubleD]
      #308688 - 06/12/17 01:47 AM

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Reading the announcement, another example of cart before the horse.

That's the problem no horse.

Where is the gun?




https://swfa.com/seekins-precision-havak-bolt-action-rifle-6-5-prc.html

https://www.gunwerks.com/revx#82-42-45-56-164-c7-t0-a0-r0

Let along building one on your own..
example;
http://www.sniperforums.com/forum/rifles/69537-6-5prc-lone-peak-fuzion-kmw-sentinel-ts-customs.html

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #310758 - 21/01/18 10:30 AM

https://www.americanrifleman.org/article...ifle-cartridge/

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2017/12/1/first-look-new-hornady-65-prc-load/

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #310777 - 21/01/18 07:19 PM

Zzzzzzzz

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: paradox_]
      #312705 - 20/02/18 01:45 AM

https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/new-sauer-100-pantera-rifle-6-5-prc-shot-show-2018/

https://carbonsixllc.com/6-5-prc-now-available/




I realize this is another new 6.5 caliber..however based on what I read, much of which is media hype, not sure which direction this will ultimately go.. I like choice and this one realy does have a good design....but....do we need two dozen different options in 6.5?? Guess time will tell..oh, and sales

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #312723 - 20/02/18 08:32 AM

Now, if I only had a neck/throat reamer for 6.5, I could make up a 6.5/220SwiftIMP chamber using my .220 Swift IMP reamer. Now THAT would be super - or about identical to the .260 REM/6.5x55 line of ctgs. as 55gr. total case water capacity.
It WOULD certainly be a different case, though. LOL New and improved.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #312726 - 20/02/18 08:51 AM

Next quarter it will be 6,5 PRK...yawn...

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #312730 - 20/02/18 01:23 PM

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Now, if I only had a neck/throat reamer for 6.5, I could make up a 6.5/220SwiftIMP chamber using my .220 Swift IMP reamer. Now THAT would be super - or about identical to the .260 REM/6.5x55 line of ctgs. as 55gr. total case water capacity.
It WOULD certainly be a different case, though. LOL New and improved.




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I think you should go for it...AND you could even name it..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #312735 - 20/02/18 05:13 PM

LOL - last time I did that, I found out an Aussie had done the same thing, same month or maybe one ahead of me. He didn't go as far though, as I found not only .303 brass, but .30/40 and .35 Rem. brass was also usable.

I do think I was the first with the 9.5x68S, though, even though it is so obvious to run that case to 9.3 or .375.

Another I designed and built, had been done by Ken Waters likely 5 years before I did it, without my knowledge, of course. I had never seen it written up - likely between my subscriptions to handloader magazine when he was writing the Pet Loads columns.

I just can't win - is there anything NEW?
Certainly not ballistics wise, but that's not the point.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #312746 - 20/02/18 11:47 PM

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LOL - last time I did that, I found out an Aussie had done the same thing, same month or maybe one ahead of me. He didn't go as far though, as I found not only .303 brass, but .30/40 and .35 Rem. brass was also usable.

I do think I was the first with the 9.5x68S, though, even though it is so obvious to run that case to 9.3 or .375.

Another I designed and built, had been done by Ken Waters likely 5 years before I did it, without my knowledge, of course. I had never seen it written up - likely between my subscriptions to handloader magazine when he was writing the Pet Loads columns.

I just can't win - is there anything NEW?
Certainly not ballistics wise, but that's not the point.




Timing is everything..

As to anything new..not sure we will see much at this point that hasn't been seen before unless there is some new major breakthrough of one kind or another..there are always the little tweaks here and there, but for the most part they go bang and things get hit..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #312875 - 22/02/18 11:01 PM

www.americanhunter.org/articles/2018/2/21/why-you-should-be-a-fan-of-the-new-hornady-65-prc/

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #312895 - 23/02/18 12:56 PM

the latest reloader mag. has a few pages on the 6.5-300 weatherby wacker supposed to be fastest on planet.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: ducmarc]
      #312911 - 23/02/18 04:15 PM

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the latest reloader mag. has a few pages on the 6.5-300 weatherby wacker supposed to be fastest on planet.




Think it probably is..BUT, would rather have the 26 Nosler if I am going for the speed end..NO belt and IMHO, better designed cartridge for accuracy...

For a bit more moderate caliber, think this 6.5 PRC would be a good choice and was developed for accuracy and a bit more speed than the Creedmoor ..however it has a bit more recoil..

The 6.5/284 is a great overall cartridge as well based on my use of it..however if you use it in competition barrel life is an issue..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #312923 - 23/02/18 10:03 PM

Wow!!! All this work to be the baddest fastest mofo 6.5 on the planet and here I am just now downsizing into a 6.5 Grendel. I’m either waaaaay behind the times or I am a bright light bucking the current populist trend.......

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Postman]
      #312934 - 24/02/18 12:45 AM

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Wow!!! All this work to be the baddest fastest mofo 6.5 on the planet and here I am just now downsizing into a 6.5 Grendel. I’m either waaaaay behind the times or I am a bright light bucking the current populist trend.......




Why do you have to be either or???

As I have stated before, you can enjoy them all..I had a Daniel Defense AR 6.5 Grendel, currently have rifles in 6.5x55, 26 Nosler, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x284, 264 W Mag...and enjoy shooting/hunting with them all..AND will probably get a 6.5 PRC...

Personally enjoy both the new calibers as well as the older ones..have never understood the mentality of when a new cartridge comes out it gets hammered by some who state it won't do anything better than what I currently have..fine, don't buy it..its as simple as that..pretty sure no one is forcing you...so why the attitude.???

Applaud you on the 6.5 Grendel --great round..very enjoyable to shoot..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #312959 - 24/02/18 05:13 AM

Ripp - I don't see a 6.5/.300WTBY in that list! You are waiting for?????????????????

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #312965 - 24/02/18 07:13 AM

I wonder if we can neck down a 50 BMG to 6.5. We could call it the 6.5 OMG.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #312967 - 24/02/18 08:04 AM

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Ripp - I don't see a 6.5/.300WTBY in that list! You are waiting for?????????????????




Daryl,

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Wayne59]
      #312984 - 24/02/18 11:06 AM

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I wonder if we can neck down a 50 BMG to 6.5. We could call it the 6.5 OMG.




Here I was going to suggest a 450Rigby necked down to 6.5 but as usual someone had to go one better.


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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Rule303]
      #312991 - 24/02/18 12:27 PM

LOL - new data for it in the new 2018 Hodgdon Annual Manual out now.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #312999 - 24/02/18 02:14 PM

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LOL - new data for it in the new 2018 Hodgdon Annual Manual out now.




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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #313015 - 24/02/18 10:36 PM

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Personally enjoy both the new calibers as well as the older ones..have never understood the mentality of when a new cartridge comes out it gets hammered by some who state it won't do anything better than what I currently have..fine, don't buy it..its as simple as that..pretty sure no one is forcing you...so why the attitude.???

Ripp




Hey Ripp:

Rather well stated indeed!!!! For me, I like to play around with new (to me) toys as it can sometimes get boring repeating the same recipes at the loading bench. One thing that does irritate me a little bit is having to go through the tedium of having to search for and finding yet another die set and sometimes a shell holder although I must say, mail order and the Internet has made this an easier process...... I’m drowning in die sets!!!!!!

What I have found is that most cartridges are pretty similar and the finer nuances between them are often not terribly relevant in the field. There are two key categories to my mind: “big, fat and slow” or “small, skinny and fast”...... Then within those categories, one might look at horsepower and adjust for different game types and distances to be shot......

I do really believe over all else, that one should be able to choose and to play to one’s hearts content..... live and let live and be happy to have choices!!

One additional thought: Thankfully we have companies like Hornady that are willing to mess with new ideas to bring to the market and to take the commercial risk and cost of doing things that others may not. I for one am very appreciative of Hornady stepping in to the big bore arena in a big way, thus resulting in much more accessible and significantly less costly brass for the old time Nitro Express cartridges than what we may have seen even a few years ago.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Postman]
      #313022 - 25/02/18 01:20 AM

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Quote:



Personally enjoy both the new calibers as well as the older ones..have never understood the mentality of when a new cartridge comes out it gets hammered by some who state it won't do anything better than what I currently have..fine, don't buy it..its as simple as that..pretty sure no one is forcing you...so why the attitude.???

Ripp




Hey Ripp:

Rather well stated indeed!!!! For me, I like to play around with new (to me) toys as it can sometimes get boring repeating the same recipes at the loading bench. One thing that does irritate me a little bit is having to go through the tedium of having to search for and finding yet another die set and sometimes a shell holder although I must say, mail order and the Internet has made this an easier process...... I’m drowning in die sets!!!!!!

What I have found is that most cartridges are pretty similar and the finer nuances between them are often not terribly relevant in the field. There are two key categories to my mind: “big, fat and slow” or “small, skinny and fast”...... Then within those categories, one might look at horsepower and adjust for different game types and distances to be shot......

I do really believe over all else, that one should be able to choose and to play to one’s hearts content..... live and let live and be happy to have choices!!

One additional thought: Thankfully we have companies like Hornady that are willing to mess with new ideas to bring to the market and to take the commercial risk and cost of doing things that others may not. I for one am very appreciative of Hornady stepping in to the big bore arena in a big way, thus resulting in much more accessible and significantly less costly brass for the old time Nitro Express cartridges than what we may have seen even a few years ago.




Thank you and agree with your comments...

AND feel you pain as to "drowning in die sets"... Even that, to me, is interesting.. messing with various calibers, reloading..tweaking this or that, one always learns a little tidbit that can be tried or used on the others as well...really enjoy that...

YES, Hornady has really stepped up with products in the last decade or more..Steve has a great love of hunting and has been hunting all over the world for along time. Steve had actually been hunting in the same camp I was in Zim back in 2008..in fact, he shot his lion about 60 yards from where I shot mine about 10 days before..small world..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #313067 - 25/02/18 05:35 AM

Yes, it is. Some time back, I (among others) had been pestering Hornady via e-mails, to being out a 25 gr.Vmax bullet for our .17's.
When that finally came to fruition, I received an e-mail, from Steve, I think, telling my "Daryl, your dream has come true, where would you like the first 50,000 shipped". I answered back - "some wholesale stores up here so we get them first".
He wrote back, almost immediately, sorry - the first 24,000 just went to Midway. LOL
Nice guy, though. I get catalogues, posters and their magazines from them, every year. Much appreciated. My bullet 'case' is loaded with red boxes. Some other colours as well, of course, but mostly red, from .172's to .458's.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #313116 - 25/02/18 05:59 PM

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Yes, it is. Some time back, I (among others) had been pestering Hornady via e-mails, to being out a 25 gr.Vmax bullet for our .17's.
When that finally came to fruition, I received an e-mail, from Steve, I think, telling my "Daryl, your dream has come true, where would you like the first 50,000 shipped". I answered back - "some wholesale stores up here so we get them first".
He wrote back, almost immediately, sorry - the first 24,000 just went to Midway. LOL
Nice guy, though. I get catalogues, posters and their magazines from them, every year. Much appreciated. My bullet 'case' is loaded with red boxes. Some other colours as well, of course, but mostly red, from .172's to .458's.




That is a really cool story Daryl..thx for posting that..

Good to hear things like that in today's world..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: ducmarc]
      #314063 - 17/03/18 12:34 PM

Na, I think that retro is coming back with the 6.5 and 7.35 Carcano leading the way. :-)

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: fsrmg1]
      #314086 - 18/03/18 10:26 AM

Wayne59:

"I wonder if we can neck down a 50 BMG to 6.5. We could call it the 6.5 OMG."

P.O. Ackley necked the 50 BMG down to .22, he called it the ".22 eargunsplittenloudgunboomer" so no reason you couldn't do 6.5

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      #314087 - 18/03/18 10:37 AM

Might be worth a try, so long as it is the Improved version.

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      #314092 - 18/03/18 12:07 PM

I was looking through some of my oddballs, came across a bunch of .5's, and some 20 mm brass. Now THAT would make a great .30 calibre varmint ctg. shooting solid guilding metal bullets at about Mach 7.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #314189 - 20/03/18 08:32 AM

50 BMg - not enough powder. 20mm cannon down to 6.5!

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      #314244 - 21/03/18 03:49 AM

Laugh away you naysayers...

The 6.5 does have some validity..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFrnhu_DV9M

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      #319003 - 11/08/18 01:06 PM

This 6.5 thing is getting ridiculous....but I did get a Creedmoor and the new Weatherby, so...

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      #319010 - 11/08/18 02:15 PM

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This 6.5 thing is getting ridiculous....but I did get a Creedmoor and the new Weatherby, so...




SO did SOCOM..

The 6.5 Creedmoor is here to stay, period

Been around now for more than a decade with sales still increasing every year... don't know of any manufacturer here in the USA that doesn't have at least one model in that caliber..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #320729 - 19/10/18 01:00 AM

Recent article..
https://www.longrangehunting.com/articles/6-5-prc-review.1223/

6.5 PRC - Review
By John Johnston

In October of 2017 Hornady announced the birth of a new cartridge, the 6.5 PRC.

PRC stands for Precision Rifle Cartridge. Hornady had this cartridge in mind for many years. Due to the ammo shortage in 2012 and 2013 plus their work on the new ELD line of bullets, the project was put on the back burner. Now that the ELD bullet line is up and going with great success, it was time to take the PRC seriously. Nick named the “6.5 Creedmoor’s big brother” it was a big point of interest at this past SHOT SHOW. However, the big question remained, “why?”.

Like all 6.5 cartridges, it got my attention immediately. Seekins Precision was one of the first to chamber their new Havak rifle in the PRC but when contacted they said that the wait would be considerable. It was the same story with Sauer and Christensen Arms. Savage is the only one of what I call the Big Four American Rifle Makers to publicly state they were going to chamber a tactical rifle in the PRC. So far it is not listed on their web site. I went to the folks at Montana Rifles and they said they are going to chamber their new X3 model in the PRC and agreed to build one for me.

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6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC and 6.5 SAUM (GAP) (L to R)

Let’s get back to the question “why”; in other words, are there not enough 6.5 caliber rifle cartridges? The governing body of the Precision Rifle Series set some ground rules about six years ago which included the maximum caliber that could be shot would be .308 and maximum velocity would be 3200fps. It seems there was a lot of interest within the competitors for a cartridge that would be faster and shoot flatter than the favored 6.5 Creedmoor. Sure there were other calibers that could have been considered but the 6.5mm had better ballistics and had a considerable line up of bullets from which to choose plus the weight of the bullets kept wind drift down.

George Gardner, the owner of G. A. Precision Rifles and quite a successful precision rifle shooter himself, collaborated with Hornady to design a cartridge that would meet the maximum limits set for Precision Rifle Series but would not burn out barrel throats quickly, to be unique enough that other cartridges would not chamber in the rifles and be able to shoot the heavier bullets between 3000 and 3050fps. The case had to be of such a design that it would load easily in top loading actions as well as from magazines. Their idea was for a round that would be popular with the F Class shooters, the long rang hunting crowd, as well as the precision rifle shooters and the every day hunter.

Hornady did not have to look too far for a case; in 2008 they had developed the Ruger Compact Magnum round in .375 and .30 caliber. This case would meet their needs and still fit a short action rifle. Since the basic part of the 6.5 PRC would not be difficult to transform into a 6.5 caliber; it was an easy decision.

Utilizing their ELD line of bullets they came out with an ELD X and ELD M lines of ammunition. I am sure other types of bullets from the Hornady stable will be used when there is a demand. If you look at the ELD M next to the ELD X, there is very little difference. The ELD M is shooting a 147gr. Bullet while the ELD X is using a 143gr. Bullet; The OAL is the same at 2.95 inches. According to the box the 143gr. ELD X is going 2960 fps., while the slightly heavier 147gr ELD M is leaving the barrel at 2910 fps. It will be interesting to see what reloaders can get out of PRC with lighter bullets.

MONTANA Rifle X3
The X3 was a lighter version of their X2 design, they accomplished this weight loss by using slightly more of a taper on their in house made barrel, using aluminum for the trigger guard and bottom metal plus they re-designed their stock. I requested a muzzle brake be installed on my rifle since I would be shooting this rifle off a bench. The bare rifle weighed in at just a hair over 7 pounds with the brake. The stock is a unique combination of carbon fiber, foam and aluminum. There is even aluminum blocks imbedded into the stock for mounting the swivel studs. With the Hi-Viz recoil pad, this rifle is very pleasant to shoot and probably does not need a muzzle brake at all. The barrel is made in house and has button rifling. It is hand lapped to the extent I had a difficult time checking the barrel twist due to the smooth land and grooves. The model 99 action is of their design and has a controlled round feed. Basically it is a combination of what is good with the old Winchester model 70 and the Mauser 98 action. I found the machine work to be excellent. The trigger is the same as the old Winchester model 70. It broke at 3.5 pounds at first but after easily adjusting it; I had it set at 2.25 pounds. The X3 handled the recoil well and was a pleasure to shoot.

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Montana Rifles X3 with a Swarovski X5 ready to test

SWAROVSKI X5
For this testing I wanted to use the best scope I had in my shop. It is a Swarovski X5 but it was happily on another rifle. Luckily I found one of our members who had one for sale and I was glad to pick it up. I have tremendous trust in this scope and have used one to shoot a factory 6.5 Creedmoor out to 1400 yards. Once you get used to setting one up, it is easy to use. The X5 will definitely get the 6.5 PRC out to those long ranges accurately.

Hornady ELD M and ELD X
First up was the ELD M which I used for breaking in the barrel and it did not take long due to Montana Rifles’ lapping procedure. I bore sighted the scope and started to shoot my first group. My first shot was low and to the right. My second shot appeared not to be on the clean target at all. I even walked down range to see if I could find the hole. It turned out the second shot was in the first shot hole. Normally I would make the adjustments to get the rounds into the center of the target but I decided to see what a five shot group would look like with this new X3. The second two shots were also in the same hole but slightly higher, cutting the first two. The fifth shot was just a hair to the right. This may have been me, or the wind which was left to right at 7 mph. The temperature on the range was 101 degrees, so barrel heat may have also been the culprit. I cleaned the barrel and got it shooting dead center the next morning with the ELD M. The X3 and ELD M 147 gr. consistently shot right around 0.50 MOA. The average velocity of five rounds was 2924, the ES was 38 and the SD was 19.8 according to my LabRadar set to read at 12 ft. from the muzzle. There was one round that showed signs of high pressure. The bolt was hard to lift and there was the telltale shiny spot on the rim. However, this only happened once in over 100 rounds shot. The primer was not flattened.

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The first five shot group shooting Hornady Match ELD M ammunition

The ELD X shot almost as well, with an occasional group coming in at less than 0.50 MOA. The average velocity was 2964fps, the ES was 16 and the SD was 8. All this shooting had been from my air conditioned shooting room at 116 yards. It was time to stretch the distance out to 300 yards. I shot both rounds at 300 yards. They did not shoot to the same point of aim but they were only about 3 inches apart. The groups were consistently under 0.75 MOA for both rounds. I kept the groups to three due to the heat. Texas was having the hottest summer on record.

The question still remains, how does the 6.5 PRC stack up against the other 6.5 caliber cartridges. Powder capacity of the PRC is 68.9 gr. of water, Creedmoor 52.4, 264 mag. 80.7 and the 6.5 SAUM 73.2. Depending on the weight of the bullet, the PRC will be around 200fps. faster than the Creedmoor. Shooting the same 143gr. ELD X bullet, ballistic charts say at 1000 yards the PRC is 6.42 MOA flatter shooting, 228fps faster and has 225lbs. more of energy. This study was done with factory ammunition on the Hornady calculator. The SAUM is just a little bit faster than the PRC. The old .264 magnum is fastest of them all but uses a lot more powder and requires a long action. The weight of a short action would be well appreciated on a hunt in the mountains and with a rifle chambered in the PRC you would still have the horsepower needed to have a clean harvest.

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6.5 PRC ELD X ballistics using the Hornady calculator

Like the 6.5 Creedmoor, the gun industry has been slow committing to this new round. It was designed for Precision Rifle shooter but Ruger has been mum about chambering their Precision Rifle in the 6.5 PRC. F class shooters and long range hunters may be interested in taking a closer look at the PRC. It does have the flat shooting velocities, the accuracy of a long 6.5 bullet and the down range energy needed. I plan on using this rifle in an elk hunt next month. After all my testing I am sure if I do my job, the 6.5 PRC ELD X will down a bull elk.

Even though this X3 with the Swarovski are staying in my safe, I am not sure if I would have run out and purchased a 6.5 PRC since I have 6.5 Creedmoors, 6 Creedmoor, 6.5 SAUM and other 6.5’s. It will be interesting to wait and see where this 6.5 PRC goes in the future. After all, the 6.5 Creedmoor had its naysayers and now our military is re-chambering their .308 sniper rifles.

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After twenty-five years with a major law enforcement agency, John Johnston retired to the hill country of central Texas. His law enforcement career was diverse with assignments with the tactical/motorcycle unit, patrol, and criminal investigation. After retiring, writing became his calling. He started with a newspaper column, which he still writes, and then he moved up to major magazines in the area of shooting and hunting. He is known for his unbiased product testing and evaluations. Having a full size range from 25-450 yards next to his home was his dream come true. 2010 marked his fiftieth anniversary in the hunting, shooting and reloading sports. You will notice his writing style is quite relaxed and he prefers to write like he is speaking to you around a camp fire. John welcomes questions and comments whether good or bad. You can reach John at olsingleshot@gmail.com.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #320772 - 19/10/18 07:35 PM

G'Day Fella's,

Thanks for that additional info Ripp, very much appreciated.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Homer]
      #320783 - 19/10/18 11:53 PM

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G'Day Fella's,

Thanks for that additional info Ripp, very much appreciated.

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Very welcome..
As I stated on another post..several I know around here are building rifles in the 6.5 SAUM caliber... very accurate with excellent ballistics..will not have the barrel life of the 6.5 CR however during normal shooting will still last a lifetime.. AND, the last I checked, they are still making gun barrels

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #320792 - 20/10/18 04:43 AM

I think it is interesting.
The PRS sport is good for the shooting community for obvious reasons and it's good for the industry.

On the topic of 6.5 goodness, I'm putting together a new rifle in 264 Winchester, setting up for long bullets at subatomic velocity. With the 8-twist and slow powder it should be consistent and accurate.
I still want a double rifle in 6.5x53r

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: tinker]
      #321142 - 01/11/18 07:32 PM

Quote:

I think it is interesting.
The PRS sport is good for the shooting community for obvious reasons and it's good for the industry.

On the topic of 6.5 goodness, I'm putting together a new rifle in 264 Winchester, setting up for long bullets at subatomic velocity. With the 8-twist and slow powder it should be consistent and accurate.
I still want a double rifle in 6.5x53r




I used a .264W for a couple years..nice shooting caliber..low recoil..and very flat shooting ..

Man..a double in 6.5x53r sounds like an incredible little project..good luck with that..

BTW..There is another article on this caliber in the AMERICAN RIFLEMAN...

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #321150 - 02/11/18 12:49 AM

Info --questions/answers with George Gardner..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rIIb3YSPj4

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      #321165 - 02/11/18 03:23 PM

G'Day Fella's,

Thanks for sharing that link Ripp.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #321182 - 03/11/18 10:56 AM

Thanks for that link Ripp. Not sure why he did not go with the SAUM case.............forgot it is not a Hornady case

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Rule303]
      #328895 - 28/05/19 12:42 AM

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Thanks for that link Ripp. Not sure why he did not go with the SAUM case.............forgot it is not a Hornady case




BECAUSE that would have been the 6.5 GAP 4S.. or very close to it..

I agree, would have been easier..think there are several reasons for it.. including gov contracts behind the scenes for a specific cartridge with very specific characteristics.. see the 300PRC is now being used by some military branches..

Then, as you state, there is that little issue of NOT being a Hornady case..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: ducmarc]
      #328925 - 28/05/19 09:57 AM

In a short cartridge this is as close as possible to the 264WM. I believe (?) the US is trialing the 6.5PRC in their sniper rifles.
Atm its just a marketing exercise for cartridge creep on the 6.5CM.
Would be fantastic with 140 woodleighs on large soft skin game. That would be the only attraction for me.


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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: tophet1]
      #331207 - 15/08/19 11:05 PM

Reload info..
https://www.rifleshootermag.com/editorial/6.5-prc-load-data/361500

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      #331218 - 16/08/19 02:29 AM

Interesting.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #331229 - 16/08/19 07:41 AM

If I was going to go down this road I would simply re-barrel my 300SAUM.

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      #332824 - 30/09/19 10:16 AM

Good info from the guy who helped design this cartridge..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rIIb3YSPj4

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #332825 - 30/09/19 10:25 AM

https://www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2018/2/27/review-hornady-65-prc-cartridge/


Review: Hornady 6.5 PRC Cartridge
by Richard Mann - Tuesday, February 27, 2018


To capitalize on the current interest in long-range shooting, Hornady has introduced what might be its best long-range cartridge yet, the new Hornady 6.5 PRC.
Sniper-like shooting skills have impressed us since the dawn of the rifle. That alone was enough to drive moviegoers to see the film “American Sniper.” And, combined with the story of Chris Kyle’s patriotism, devotion to duty and premature death made the movie a blockbuster. It was also an anthem to the American soldier. War is hell, coming home is hell and living with the war you fought is hell. “American Sniper” conveyed that message, one our veterans have known since 1776.
More importantly, when the movie was released America was in dire need of a hero. Our political elite, sports stars and entertainers, aren’t a shadow of the hard men who forged this country, or men like Kyle who protect it today. At heart, Americans are cowboys, and Kyle was an average American cowboy who, like countless other average Americans, heeded the call. The movie reminded us what a hero really was and how badly we missed having one around.
The portrayal of Kyle gave us the new millennium’s John Wayne, and to connect with him, Americans responded by emulating his craft. Suddenly, everyone wanted a precision rifle, the related gear, and the requisite skill to hit at 1,000 yards. This was first manifested in the rise of the 6.5 Creedmoor, a cartridge introduced seven years before the film. As interest in “going long” peaked, shooters realized its virtues and as the film left box offices, “the Creed” became the cartridge of the future.
Shooting trends come and go and long-range shooting is what’s hot. What's helping that trend is the Hornady 6.5 PRC, a cartridge expressly built to be the ideal long-range—shoot the cents off a nickel—cartridge. It’s based on the 300 RCM (Ruger Compact Magnum) so it holds more powder than the Creedmoor. The two initial Hornady loads are a 147-grain ELD Match bullet at 2,910 fps and a 143-grain ELD-X bullet at 2,960 fps. With a 100-yard zero, drop at 1,000 yards will only be about 24.5 MOA. And, bullets will impact in less than 1.40 seconds, with a retained velocity of more than 1,600 fps. The 6.5 PRC remains supersonic beyond 1,300 yards.


By comparison, at 1,000 yards the Hornady 6.5 PRC is traveling 5 percent faster than a .300 Win. Mag. But, the amazing statistic is that the 6.5 PRC does this with only about 68 percent of a.300 Win. Mag.’s recoil. As riflemen know, the harder a rifle kicks, the harder it is to shoot with precision. You can shoot more rounds from a 6.5 PRC and enjoy better-than-.300 Win. Mag. performance while experiencing less fatigue.
A magnum-powered 6.5 mm cartridge is nothing new, so you might be wondering why Hornady didn’t just load the 6.5 Rem. Mag., .264 Win. Mag. or the 6.5-284 Norma with modern bullets. As simple as the answer is, it’s also mildly complex. The Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute (SAAMI) sets specifications for commercial rifles. For the older 6.5s, the stipulated twist rate is too slow to handle the modern, high BC, 6.5 mm bullets. These older cartridges are also flawed with features like a short neck, a rebated rim or a belted case. Yes, from a velocity standpoint, the Hornady 6.5 PRC is similar to these cartridges. But, with the proper twist rate and chamber dimensions that are compatible with modern bullets, the 6.5 PRC is clearly superior. This is an aspect of new cartridges often overlooked by consumers afflicted with neophobia, and who think there’s nothing new under the sun.
I tested two Hornady 6.5 PRC rifles; one built by Proof Research and the other by Gunwerks. The first thing I noticed was the limited recoil. The second was that the cartridge performed as advertised. Average velocities with factory ammo were higher than Hornady’s numbers, trajectories were flatter than Kansas and you could cover every 100-yard, five-shot group with a nickel. By combining things long-range shooters like to tout, such as a 30-degree shoulder, a longer-than-caliber case neck and a pressure curve that will not fry a barrel in a couple thousand rounds, the 6.5 PRC has lots going for it.
Admittedly, the 6.5 Creedmoor is all the long-range cartridge most of us can appreciate. But, for those with the skill, drive and determination to reach out as far as they can, the Hornady 6.5 PRC is a better option. Still, it will never be as popular as the 6.5 Creedmoor looks to become. This is partly because “the Creed” has a running start, partly because it has a cooler name and partly because few shooters have the skill to realize its limitations. None of this changes the fact that there’s at least a veiled (if not obvious) connection between the “American Sniper” movie, the current long-range, precision-shooting frenzy and the 6.5 PRC.
I’ve shot a lot of 6.5 Creedmoor rifles, but I don’t own one. I will be getting a Hornady 6.5 PRC, because it offers the best balance between long-range performance and recoil of any cartridge currently available; it’s the high-performance 6.5 mm cartridge many have dreamed of. I may not have the skill to take it to its limits and I’m no American sniper. What I am is an American rifleman, and like most Americans, I have a little bit of cowboy in me. And, like with any real cowboy, no range is too far to ride.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #332828 - 30/09/19 04:05 PM

He he, I notice the article studiously fails to mention the .264 Winchester Magnum and the even earlier 6.5x68mm. Surely the same or extremely similar velocity cartridges?

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      #332829 - 30/09/19 06:34 PM

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He he, I notice the article studiously fails to mention the .264 Winchester Magnum and the even earlier 6.5x68mm. Surely the same or extremely similar velocity cartridges?




Actually in the second portion, 10th sentence..the 264W is briefly mentioned..

Many of the articles do bring up the 6.5x55 and 264W Mag as a reference to today's modern cartridges...

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #332833 - 30/09/19 08:27 PM

Interestingly none of the articles ever mention the 6.5x53R Mannlicher which was the round that not only started all the 6.5's but was also the absolute go-to cartridges at the turn of the century. If you read any literature written at that time the praise and wonderment heaped on the Mannlicher cartridge was no different to what is written about all these modern 6.5 cartridges, especially about its incredible penetration and killing power as well as the amazing velocity of 2400fps and how flat shooting it was, especially when compared to the other cartridges of the time. Incredible penetration and killing power. The craze of that cartridge in 1900 was no different to the 6.5 Creedmoor today.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Waidmannsheil]
      #332844 - 01/10/19 01:19 AM

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Interestingly none of the articles ever mention the 6.5x53R Mannlicher which was the round that not only started all the 6.5's but was also the absolute go-to cartridges at the turn of the century. If you read any literature written at that time the praise and wonderment heaped on the Mannlicher cartridge was no different to what is written about all these modern 6.5 cartridges, especially about its incredible penetration and killing power as well as the amazing velocity of 2400fps and how flat shooting it was, especially when compared to the other cartridges of the time. Incredible penetration and killing power. The craze of that cartridge in 1900 was no different to the 6.5 Creedmoor today.

Matt.




The power of the 6.5 is very real..

I have taken several elk with my 264W Mag.. all one shot kills .. from 300 to 550 yards.. granted they don't go immediately numb like they do when hit by a 200gr 30 cal bullet.. but, as they say, dead is dead...

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #332853 - 01/10/19 04:05 AM

My buddy Keith still has and loves his 6.5x68S.(& 8x68S)

He was using a 6.5x68S back in 1979 when I met him(at work)& he still hunts with one today, albeit with a new(er) barrel.

I chambered up one on a new-barrel 6.5x55 M96 back in the late 80's.
i didn't run it to the nuts, but still ran 129gr. Hornadys at 3,100fps.
Keith was pushing those at 3,300fps in his 6.5x68.
To extract a loaded round, I had to partially pull the bolt. I think Kieth was using 4 or 5 grains more H870 than I was using.
That is a hell of a good round. The only .264 Win. Mag I ever had, was a M70A, post 64 that had a ridiculous 22" bl. My .260CLC wildcat(basically 6.5x57IMP) ran less than 50fps slower(26")with a 120gr. Barnes XLC), but did that with 20gr. less powder than the .264. 3,308 fps vs. 3,350fps.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #337880 - 13/02/20 09:20 AM

The6.5 PRC seems to be catching on ..at least here in the US..

Additional rifles offered this year in 6.5PRC

https://www.petersenshunting.com/editorial/new-65-prc-rifles-for-2020/371826

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #337889 - 13/02/20 04:51 PM

Some of those rifles have a family man's price tag. Interesting indeed.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: DarylS]
      #337891 - 14/02/20 01:19 AM

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Some of those rifles have a family man's price tag. Interesting indeed.




True story... and some, not so much..

Appreciate the interest in this nation with the 6.5 caliber.. other parts of the world had it down long ago..

I honestly hope and believe this will help a lot of shooters out there who were shooting 30-378 Weatherby's realize the 6.5 will kill just as quickly on 90% of the game in N America with substantially less recoil.. AND in many cases, better long range ballistics..

Seems to now be a bit of an annoyance for many as its apparently getting too much attention for their tastes.. I disagree.. the more publicity of calibers like this, rifles like this, the more people buy, shoot and just plain participate in.. which is good for all of us.. we need as many shooters, hunters, etc. out there as we can get..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #337895 - 14/02/20 01:52 AM

IF the 6.5PRC doesn't fit your needs...8 more in 300 PRC..

https://www.petersenshunting.com/editorial/new-300-prc-rifles-2020/371860

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #337896 - 14/02/20 02:34 AM

I've been watching this thread for sometime and thought I would interject my thoughts as limited as they might be.
I purchased a 6.5 Creedmoor a year or so past. Its an over the counter Rem 700 tactical, the only thing I've done to it is restock it with a carbon fiber stock and change the trigger. I've been a handloader since the early 1960's and loaded for many different cartridges, I don't believe I have ever found a cartridge easier to load for to achieve pinpoint accuracy. This rifle and cartridge will consistently put three rounds in sub 1/2" groups at 100 yards, and I'm certainly no Chris Kyle.
I have several friends who own this cartridge on different platforms that have expressed the same comments.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #337897 - 14/02/20 03:10 AM

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the more publicity of calibers like this, rifles like this, the more people buy, shoot and just plain participate in.. which is good for all of us.. we need as many shooters, hunters, etc. out there as we can get..





That's it.
Right there.

Get more Americans behind accurate rifles, shooting them and enjoying the sport.

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      #337899 - 14/02/20 04:38 AM

Quote:

Quote:

the more publicity of calibers like this, rifles like this, the more people buy, shoot and just plain participate in.. which is good for all of us.. we need as many shooters, hunters, etc. out there as we can get..





That's it.
Right there.

Get more Americans behind accurate rifles, shooting them and enjoying the sport.




Sorry Tink, couldn't resist.

That's it.
Right there.

Get more Americans buying their 101th rifles, based on advertising "need".

Why is there no comparison to the 264 Win Mag in that article?

Lots of advertised currently selling rifles though.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: NitroX]
      #337954 - 15/02/20 01:10 PM

That guy with 101 rifles who just bought another one in the newest hype cartridge..?

I just hope he's going to get out and shoot it.

And I think he should buy another rifle.



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      #337956 - 15/02/20 02:41 PM

Quote:

That guy with 101 rifles who just bought another one in the newest hype cartridge..?

I just hope he's going to get out and shoot it.

And I think he should buy another rifle.




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HEY...KNOCK IT OFF..

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      #337957 - 15/02/20 02:51 PM

Quote:

Quote:

That guy with 101 rifles who just bought another one in the newest hype cartridge..?

I just hope he's going to get out and shoot it.

And I think he should buy another rifle.




..

HEY...KNOCK IT OFF..

I'm that guy..




Ha ha.

I don't have 101 rifles. But I do have too many I have never shot. And way too many I rarely shoot. Philosophically I am a "one gun hunter". Maybe I should limit myself to .223, .308 and .375. Ha ha, a bit boring. Should get some of these old rare birds shooting.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #337992 - 16/02/20 01:21 PM

Quote:

Quote:

That guy with 101 rifles who just bought another one in the newest hype cartridge..?

I just hope he's going to get out and shoot it.

And I think he should buy another rifle.




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HEY...KNOCK IT OFF..

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      #338008 - 16/02/20 08:00 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

That guy with 101 rifles who just bought another one in the newest hype cartridge..?

I just hope he's going to get out and shoot it.

And I think he should buy another rifle.




..

HEY...KNOCK IT OFF..

I'm that guy..




I am trying to be that guy.




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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: NitroX]
      #338041 - 17/02/20 12:31 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

the more publicity of calibers like this, rifles like this, the more people buy, shoot and just plain participate in.. which is good for all of us.. we need as many shooters, hunters, etc. out there as we can get..





That's it.
Right there.

Get more Americans behind accurate rifles, shooting them and enjoying the sport.




Sorry Tink, couldn't resist.

That's it.
Right there.

Get more Americans buying their 101th rifles, based on advertising "need".

Why is there no comparison to the 264 Win Mag in that article?

Lots of advertised currently selling rifles though.




Believe the .264W in not considered to have the same advantages, whether real or perceived, by the LR shooting public... long action and to quote Daryl, has that needless belt..

I don't see anyone shooting a 264W mag in any of the competitions I read about or any school I have attended..not even mentioned.. I do think its a very good big game caliber.. seems to be perfectly fine to hit the bullseye on elk on more than one occassion..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #338060 - 17/02/20 08:27 PM

No gun writers are writing about it, with newly chambered rifles in it to sell.

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      #338070 - 18/02/20 02:45 AM

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No gun writers are writing about it, with newly chambered rifles in it to sell.




Agree, not many rifles being offered in it anymore...as a side note, and I am sure because of the current 6.5 rage, I see more articles written about the 264 now than I have in a long time..

With the really love it or really hate it attitude towards the 6.5CM, its doing exactly what it was designed for.. LR competitions... easy on the barrels, short actions, very efficient in terms of both trajectory and recoil.. and crazy accurate as mentioned above and in many other posts.. super easy to load for..it really is a nice round..

I was very impressed with how easy it was to dial and hit targets from 300 to 1400 yards with such a mild round a couple months ago.. say what you want, but the CM is here to stay. At the current rate its only getting more and more popular, at least here in the US with the LR shooting community.. Every major manufacturer I know of offers at a min. of one and usually several models in the 6.5CM..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: aromakr]
      #338072 - 18/02/20 02:55 AM

Quote:

I've been watching this thread for sometime and thought I would interject my thoughts as limited as they might be.
I purchased a 6.5 Creedmoor a year or so past. Its an over the counter Rem 700 tactical, the only thing I've done to it is restock it with a carbon fiber stock and change the trigger. I've been a handloader since the early 1960's and loaded for many different cartridges, I don't believe I have ever found a cartridge easier to load for to achieve pinpoint accuracy. This rifle and cartridge will consistently put three rounds in sub 1/2" groups at 100 yards, and I'm certainly no Chris Kyle.
I have several friends who own this cartridge on different platforms that have expressed the same comments.

Bob




AND there you have it...

What you have found, thousands of others have as well.. a super accurate and easy cartridge..what's not to love???

I was shooting factory 6.5CM ammo recently--granted, in this case it was a custom rifle with a proof barrel..but it was also a trainer..has had thousands of rounds through it.. my first group with that rifle at 100 to check zero was basically a one holer.. Hornady factory ammo--140gr...

NO flies with this one, real or perceived ..

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: Ripp]
      #338114 - 18/02/20 02:06 PM

And now..FN has joined in..
https://www.gunsandammo.com/editorial/fn-scar-20s-65-creedmoor-review/372271

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      #338123 - 18/02/20 05:15 PM

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With the really love it or really hate it attitude towards the 6.5CM, its doing exactly what it was designed for.. LR competitions




And think, I bought a cut back Swedish Mauser M96 in 6.5x55 for $100, and it shot tiny sub MOA groups (ie 3 shot single hole groups, not much bigger than a single bullet calibre) with Swedish "ex-mil" (Match) FMJ ammo and its mil stepped barrel. A $100 rifle made a hundred years ago with a cartridge older than that which can outshoot all these multi thousand dollars "LR" rigs shooting some modern copycat cartridge.

Admittedly it now has a cheapo plastic stock. And needs it two stage mil trigger replaced with something better.

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Re: First-look- Hornady-6.5- PRC -- NEW & yes another 6.5 :) [Re: NitroX]
      #338132 - 19/02/20 01:54 AM

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With the really love it or really hate it attitude towards the 6.5CM, its doing exactly what it was designed for.. LR competitions




And think, I bought a cut back Swedish Mauser M96 in 6.5x55 for $100, and it shot tiny sub MOA groups (ie 3 shot single hole groups, not much bigger than a single bullet calibre) with Swedish "ex-mil" (Match) FMJ ammo and its mil stepped barrel. A $100 rifle made a hundred years ago with a cartridge older than that which can outshoot all these multi thousand dollars "LR" rigs shooting some modern copycat cartridge.

Admittedly it now has a cheapo plastic stock. And needs it two stage mil trigger replaced with something better.




Bring that with when you come over here. I'll take you out to the LR shooting area.. we will take turns starting at 600 and work our way out.. see how it does...

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