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Interesting.

What are people's thoughts ?

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Long Range varmint / small deer cartridge ?

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Does it fill a void ?

Or is it just another marketing ploy ?

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Parent case, probably the 375 Ruger case. For ballistics refer to the 6.5x68 Schuler

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The ctg. made within 50fps of my 22" factory Winchester .264Mag, which required 20gr. MORE powder just to match my little round's speed with those bullets.

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The barrel is four inches too short.

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there isnt anything new in the figures from what I see V the nosler...what we need is for someone to whack a 6.5 pill in a 416 Rigby or something!


140 at 3176
130 at shy 3300

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I like my Savage LRP in 260, very low muzzle report with full load of 4831, 2850 fps. Pretty heavy for hunting though. Shoot very good at 400 with 140 Amax and 142 SMK. Does well hunting with 140 SSTs or Sierra BTSP.
I know my 6.5 Swede will drive a 140 Speer flat base through a Whitetail end to end at 300+ (doing guide stuff, kill the wounded deer). The 1937 Husky converted military would shoot into 5/8 or so at 100 with the 140 gr Speer.
Friend has shot elk with a 6.5 Mannlicher and a 120 gr with good results. Probably more than one.
Light recoil, low noise signature and good killing power. Whats not to like?

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The ctg. made within 50fps of my 22" factory Winchester .264Mag, which required 20gr. MORE powder just to match my little round's speed with those bullets.

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Exactly--not sure why so many think of the .264 W as the redheaded step child..i have used one off and on now for the past 3 years..it hammers deer and elk with authority..took one bull at 440 plus--down for the count with one 140gr Nosler accubond..

I was amused the other day as well looking through the new Nosler reloading manual --in ALL of their loads they show for the 264 W-they are using a 24" barrel..WTH?? are they that incompetent or just that ignorant??? and yet in some calibers where a 26" tube really isnt needed..they use one..wonder sometimes who is in charge to this stuff??

Personally I look forward to a new 6.5-- it is an amazing caliber..

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I was amused the other day as well looking through the new Nosler reloading manual --in ALL of their loads they show for the 264 W-they are using a 24" barrel..WTH?? are they that incompetent or just that ignorant??? and yet in some calibers where a 26" tube really isnt needed..they use one..wonder sometimes who is in charge to this stuff??

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I never see the point of any rifle with a "magnum" large capacity case to bore size cartridge, having a barrel less then 25 inches. What's the point? Unburned powder? If using a shorter barrel rifle, a standard performance cartridge is just as good, as was pointed out earlier.

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Zeroed at 350 yards, the 26 Nosler® has a Point Blank Range of 0-415 yards.

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I can hear that barrel burning though.

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Standard calibres do well with long barrels too.

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Yes they do!! And even better when 'slippery' high BC projectiles are put through them, with the newer slow powders. 24" barrel on my 270Win, heavy dose of Rel22, 130grAccuBond ... I dont need a fast 26cal.

But if this Nosler cartridge is based on a shortened RUM case, I'm buying a reamer!!
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Yes they do!! And even better when 'slippery' high BC projectiles are put through them, with the newer slow powders. 24" barrel on my 270Win, heavy dose of Rel22, 130grAccuBond ... I dont need a fast 26cal.

But if this Nosler cartridge is based on a shortened RUM case, I'm buying a reamer!!
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When has "need" ever had much to do with getting a new gun???

I have a .270 or two as well..along with 6.5's..but the thing I have read over and over is, given the same muzzle velocity out of both calibers..at around 350 yds..because of the superior BC and SD, the 6.5 takes over and never looks back..have never tested it, only have read it..

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The reason I like the 270 better is pretty basic.
I compare apples to apples.
There is not an argument that the best of the .264" VLD Target Bullets have an advantage in their flight characteristics over about anything else short of a 408 Chytac and the 50 Browning target bullets.
However I don’t shoot targets for any reason other than to zero in my hunting rifles.

Hornady makes a hunting bullet in .277” that goes a bit over .500 BC. There are a FEW .264” bullets that top that number, but dang few and ALL of them are target bullets.

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Not sure where you are getting your information from but the above statements couldn't be further from being accurate--I can name several "hunting bullets" that are over .500 bc--go to noslers web site and look up accubond-they have the standad and long range versions that both exceed that..or the swift scirrocco that is around .570 or in that range--or the Berger hunting bullets..140 gr at .612bc compared to .487 for a 270 in the same bullet configuration and weight..

There is no way the Jack O'Connor favorite in .270 even comes close to the same ballistics in the .264 caliber given the same velocity ..whether you are shooting at paper or animals..neither of which bore me..each to their own, but if I can get an extra 8, 10 12, or 16 inches over another caliber at given ranges I will take it..increases max POA along with several other advantages with todays available optics --IMHO, the 270 gets much more credit than it deserves..
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As to the other statement...shown below..by 500..

How many people seriously use a gun past 350 yards ?

or even 500 yards ?

Some competition shooters ? They are in a breed unto themselves.

Hunters ?
Probably not that many.

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Out where I live and those who I hunt with, depending on the species hunted, conditions, etc..quite a few actually shoot past 350...actually considered a chip shot by many...maybe to those who only hunt in forests or really close cover it seems long..but to those who live in the Western US..not considered a extreme range by anyone I hunt with at 350...agree once you get to 500 it starts thinnig the herd a bit..but is still done..and by those who practice alot and often and aware of the conditions..not that difficult to be done..my wife shot her antelope this fall over 500 with a 22-250...with a Tikka T3 lite..

I am not stating everyone should be out taking shots on game at distances they are not familiar with..and each to their own..but things have changed, optics have changed, rifles have changed, and technology has changed...a 300 yard shot isnt what it was 20 years ago..as long as people do their homework and practice what they preach. I shoot game with my bow under 20 yards and with my rifle at times under 100 as well..depending on where and what I am hunting..

So if the above is true..then I guess the west hunters I know are in in a breed to themselves..

Ripp

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I shoot past 350 yards every year I head out for field rats - and those little high B.C. .172" 25gr. Vmaxs do a wonderful job (way under .300) as well as the low B.C. 20 gr. Vmaxs at just under .200. That is where I do long range shooting. Here, one is more likely to get a 30 to 100 yard shot at a moose, or 50 to 100 yard shot at a deer, than anything past that range.

Iron sighted rifles work just about as well as scoped rifles - just ask the Captain - that's Cpt. Curl, of course!

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I can see the 26Nosler to have the edge over my .270wea in trajectory dept..but it isn´t enough to get a new gun/caliber in the safe. Regarding 6,5mm..I look oreward one day to load and shoot my 6,5x54KP Kurz-Mauser. It´s a 128grain bullet doing a sedate(or there about) 2500 ft/sec only. That is fine for a roedeer as it was presumeably intended for...

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OK Ripp, I did as you suggested.
I went to Nosler's web site and I am looking at their numbers.
You should do the same.
It's interesting to look at their "Long Range Accu-Bonds"

Go look

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So - I guess my M74 Sharps pushing 505's at 1,650fps is not in the same ball park with these fast steppers, eh? I can get 1,850fps with 405's?????

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The big danger here is when you go for a 500mt shot you need air traffic clearance as the trajectory takes the pill into the flight lanes

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So - I guess my M74 Sharps pushing 505's at 1,650fps is not in the same ball park with these fast steppers, eh? I can get 1,850fps with 405's?????

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Hey, my first centerfire was a old military rifle in 303 British..still have it..was incredibly deadly...never ever tried to shoot a group with it as I am certain it probalby would have not been very good..but, seemed like most things fell over after I pointed it at them and pulled the trigger..

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So - I guess my M74 Sharps pushing 505's at 1,650fps is not in the same ball park with these fast steppers, eh? I can get 1,850fps with 405's?????

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Hey, my first centerfire was a old military rifle in 303 British..still have it..was incredibly deadly...never ever tried to shoot a group with it as I am certain it probalby would have not been very good..but, seemed like most things fell over after I pointed it at them and pulled the trigger..

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Ripp..just for you.....check the calibre.


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So - I guess my M74 Sharps pushing 505's at 1,650fps is not in the same ball park with these fast steppers, eh? I can get 1,850fps with 405's?????

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Hey, my first centerfire was a old military rifle in 303 British..still have it..was incredibly deadly...never ever tried to shoot a group with it as I am certain it probalby would have not been very good..but, seemed like most things fell over after I pointed it at them and pulled the trigger..

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Ripp..just for you.....check the calibre.


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Thank you--appreciate that...the old .303..a killing machine...

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