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grandveneur
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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: xausa]
      #130820 - 30/03/09 01:54 AM

Good combination! I have a 300H&H and i like it! But for mountain hunting i prefere my 340WM!

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: xausa]
      #130825 - 30/03/09 02:15 AM

Do it all with one rifle - .375H&H or .375 Ruger in factory rifles, .375/06 AckImp for wildcat - 2 bullet weights, 3 bullets adjusted for game - 300gr. softs and solids as 2,450fps to 2,550fps, 250gr. TSX @ 2,700fps to 2,900fps for all plains game.

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: Daryl_S]
      #130827 - 30/03/09 02:18 AM

That's right! 375H&H is may be a universal cartridge! I dont have one but i respect this cartridge!

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: grandveneur]
      #130830 - 30/03/09 02:24 AM

If I was only allowed 3 rifles EVER I would probably have to choose a .223, a .30-06 and a .375H&H. As long as I could reload, it would be a bit dull but not too much of a hardship. If I wanted to hunt in France or anywhere that banned military calibres I guess I'd still be able to take the .375?

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #130832 - 30/03/09 02:28 AM

Yes! In France you can only use your 375H&H! For the high mountain's you need a another one! That's the problem for all people!

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: grandveneur]
      #130834 - 30/03/09 02:32 AM

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A good balance! The 300Winch.Mag. is, in my opinion a little bit too light for medium game at long range!




Disagree totally with your opinion...and basing my opinion on what I have actually shot, not hear say..as stated in another post regarding mountain rifles...

If one uses the proper bullet and shot placement is correct, a 300 Win will kill cleanly ANY animal that walks the mountains anywhere in the world. As in a lot of these threads, much of this is subjective to the ability of the hunter/shooter, bullet construction, etc...

Guess my point is,if you place a shot through the lungs or heart of any animal, they are going to die, period. Quite often, as often published, the hunter makes a poor shot and then the caliber gets blamed..remember reading on another thread on this site of a hunter that had gone to Africa and used a 340 Weatherby for plains game---wounded an animal, and then blamed the caliber..BS, is what that is...he made a crappy shot....

As to calibers:

Light--I would used a.257 Weatherby--flat shooting, small enought for little guys and large enough to take an elk if needed...fact is, Roy Weatherby used one to take a cape buffalo, an extreme example but done none the less..really not much more extreme than a .275 used for elephant..

Medium--300 or 338 Ultra-mag----can handle up to anything below elephant if needed...

Heavy---.416 is my favorite--but if limited to just one would probably choose the .458 Lott.

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: JabaliHunter]
      #130836 - 30/03/09 02:35 AM

When i look to the forum i can see there are no problem's to select a rifle for light game or for heavy/big game! The problem is what i use for shooting medium game or mountain game at long range?

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: Ripp]
      #130838 - 30/03/09 02:36 AM

My opinion!

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: xausa]
      #130840 - 30/03/09 02:41 AM

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Light: .300 H&H Magnum
Medium: .375 H&H Magnum
Heavy: .458 Winchester Magnum, .500 Jeffery or .500 NE




Just about perfect!
The only change I would make is taking the .500Jeff over the .458.
With that change, your choices are creeping up on the 100yr old mark! NICE!
Of course, these can, and have, taken virtually every game species on Earth!

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: Huvius]
      #130842 - 30/03/09 02:43 AM

A good choice, when you prefere .300 caliber's to .338!

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: grandveneur]
      #130846 - 30/03/09 02:52 AM

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Yes! In France you can only use your 375H&H! For the high mountain's you need a another one! That's the problem for all people!



You mean in France? Elsewhere I'd be fine with a .30-06 suitably loaded


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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: grandveneur]
      #130850 - 30/03/09 03:56 AM

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My opinion!




Have no problem with your opinion..merely stating I don't agree with your analogy...

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: Ripp]
      #130870 - 30/03/09 08:41 AM

It seems a question was asked and some very good answers were given but Grandveneur has dissagreed with most. Maybe he should just state his choice and be done with it. The choices men make are a subjective thing based on where and what they intend or would like to hunt and no-one knowingly makes bad choices. All the choices I have seen would be workable battery's within the paremeters of the question unless shots were taken that were marginable under the circumstances and a HUNTER would not take those. I would hunt anything anywhere in New Zealand and elsewhere with the 7x57 and with proper loading will take all game animals I might want to tkae it against. Know your rifle and its trajectory and you can do what needs to be done. The 404 will take care of the rest. Something else in the 222 clas would round it out and for me I would use my 20 VarTarg.


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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: VonGruff]
      #130899 - 30/03/09 05:10 PM

Light: .22rf - Need one for pests & small game.

Medium: .270 Win. - Good for anything in North America except the big nasties that can shred you to pieces.

Heavy: .375 H&H or Ruger - If you can't kill it with a .375 it doesn't need killing.

With these three I could hunt the world.

My only qualifications would be that the .270 & .375 would be shooting my handloads.

If the .22rf is not really part of the equation I would drop it and add a .223 for some varminting.

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: xausa]
      #130901 - 30/03/09 05:44 PM

6.5x54
9.3x64
450NE


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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: ozhunter]
      #130902 - 30/03/09 05:48 PM

.275 Rigby
.333 Jeffery
.505 Gibbs

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: RLI]
      #130915 - 30/03/09 08:50 PM

1. -
2. 9,3X74R (230gr-300gr for hunting)
3. 475 No2 (fighting - assaulting/defending)


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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: 93mouse]
      #134114 - 01/05/09 09:22 PM

1. 7mm mag with 160-175 grain woodleigh or nosler partition or - Rudolf Sand used 7X61 super for 281 species, even ibex, marco polo and markhor (270 win is also one of my favourites)
2. 375 H&H - I've used this for roe deer, fallow, capericaillie(urogallus urogallus) and larger animals
3. 416 Rigby or 404 Jeffery

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: Yochanan]
      #134116 - 01/05/09 09:55 PM

22rf and 404 Jeffrey.

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: Ripp]
      #134140 - 02/05/09 12:29 AM

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Roy Weatherby used one to take a cape buffalo, an extreme example but done none the less..really not much more extreme than a .275 used for elephant..


Ripp




Ripp - did you see the picture of Roy with that Cape Buffalo? It was on his catolog back in the 70's with him pointing at the gash wound his .257 made on the Buffalo's hip. Unfortunately, his claim to killing with hydrostatic shock didn't quite fit to the double .470 holes in the shoulder. I guess they didn't think anyone would notice. I did. I-too think, witht he proepr bullets, the .257 Weatherby or .300 mags would be just fine as would a .257 Roberts or .25/06. It all comes down to the bullet and it's placement. We carry heavier guns to sort out the odd problems that occur.

Someone who doesn't do a lot of shooting, some of which is at long range, has no buisness in shooting long range, no matter what they are shooting.

As you said, the bullet or the ctg. gets the blame - EVERY TIME and this happens way to often.

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: Daryl_S]
      #134145 - 02/05/09 12:52 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Roy Weatherby used one to take a cape buffalo, an extreme example but done none the less..really not much more extreme than a .275 used for elephant..


Ripp




Ripp - did you see the picture of Roy with that Cape Buffalo? It was on his catolog back in the 70's with him pointing at the gash wound his .257 made on the Buffalo's hip. Unfortunately, his claim to killing with hydrostatic shock didn't quite fit to the double .470 holes in the shoulder. I guess they didn't think anyone would notice. I did. I-too think, witht he proepr bullets, the .257 Weatherby or .300 mags would be just fine as would a .257 Roberts or .25/06. It all comes down to the bullet and it's placement. We carry heavier guns to sort out the odd problems that occur.

Someone who doesn't do a lot of shooting, some of which is at long range, has no buisness in shooting long range, no matter what they are shooting.

As you said, the bullet or the ctg. gets the blame - EVERY TIME and this happens way to often.




Daryl,

I did see that picture--a really good friend of mine is a Weatherby collector--so he has all the info, photos, etc...f

Maybe those big holes in the buff's shoulder were "special" bullets for the .257--

Ripp

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: grandveneur]
      #134150 - 02/05/09 01:25 AM

223

30-06

maybe .500 NE but probably .375 H&H or 9.3 x 62.

Sorry if my list is boring.


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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: xausa]
      #134159 - 02/05/09 01:56 AM

.22lr
.308
.375
Ammo availability anywhere ,number one reason.
(Now what am I to do with all my other calibres, )

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: DuggaBoy]
      #134160 - 02/05/09 02:47 AM

ok, I will change my medium rifle choice from 30-06 to 308

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Re: Caliber's choice for hunting [Re: 500grains]
      #134234 - 02/05/09 11:03 PM

I'm not going to stick by the rules but:

Light - 8x68S Mauser 98 bolt action or Mannlicher or similar, scoped
Medium - .375 H&H Mag - Mauser 98 bolt action, scoped
Heavy (bottom end of the heavy range) - .450 NE double rifle (or similar eg .470, or heavier .500 etc)


I would add something in the .22 RF, .22 Mag RF, .222 range for small game, plus of course at least one shotgun.

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