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My second ever fallow buck
      #318074 - 14/07/18 08:06 PM


While fixing some old broken links came across these old images. My second ever fallow buck. While not a monster mounted for my wall and still there. Actually I think I shot this one, thinking it was a much larger buck seen minutes earlier in the early dawn light which disappeared and then this fellow appeared instead, and I shot it. Nevermind, I am not an "inch hunter".

From a fair few years ago.





Cattle and deer feeding in the field.



This area is near the Southern Ocean with very strong sea "breezes". Trees bent by the wind. One day I hunted there the winds were so strong I had trouble standing up and sheltered behind a tree for a period.



View across a paddock.



View towards the Para River, the same Para River my own property straddles, but some 60 kilometres downriver.

I remember once, sort of crossing the river, theoretically the boundary line to circle around some deer on the right side of the river, keeping the wind in my favour. Shooting a doe for meat, and then thinking, the bang may bring some attention, maybe I need to get back across the fence. Took a leap off the bank into the water, only using my brain afterwards that it was quite high, a huge spash, no other damage other then getting very wet. Some venison for the home table harvested.



View towards the Southern Ocean. Swamps, 'mangroves" and flooded salt pans lie in between the sea and here.

The deer would hide in these paddocks. The low bushes were sufficient to cover most of the deer, offhand shots were required, but the deer were smart enough to spot a person and keep their distance, so longer shots were needed. From a standing offhand shot, prone shots being impossible. Perfect later for shooting sticks, which I did not have at the time and were largely unknown here then.

Another time the deer outsmarted me, fleeing to hide on the islands on the other side of the flooded salt pans, we crossed the knee deep water, only to find the deer again watching us from the next island ... enough. Try again another time.



My second ever fallow buck.



Should have been left another year or two, but shot by mistake. But my best fallow buvk to date at the time. And was also good eating.



Some young dude with his fallow buck.



Haven't been to this place for a decade or more. North of Adelaide. At one time in the 1960's and 1970's more than 1,500 fallow deer inhabited the place. By chance when cleaning out old yellow newspapers in a shed, I found an article featuring "Buckland Park" where the number of deer was mentioned. No idea if the herd is still there, but the area nearby has since been developed into another "urban desert", a urban housing development, with a major new "city" also being planned there right now. One day houses will infest the lands where once wildlife roamed the plains, the tussock paddocks, the salt pans and islands, and 'mangrove' swamps.

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Ash
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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: NitroX]
      #318364 - 23/07/18 03:16 PM

I’d love to get onto a deer some day.

I guess a very belated congrats as this was awhile ago :P

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: Ash]
      #318373 - 23/07/18 10:46 PM

I really want to get a fallow one day..and hopefully not in Texas unless its free range somewhere..

Not sure what NZ offers in terms of free range fallow, but was thinking that might be my opportunity..

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: Ripp]
      #318374 - 23/07/18 11:03 PM

Loads of them free range in RSA.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: Rell]
      #362665 - 24/02/22 06:36 PM

I see this hunting area I hunted years ago, on the mouth of the North Para / Gawler River, which once in the 1960s had over 1600 fallow deer wild on it, is now been turned into a "luxury lake Venice" like future ghetto. For the local crime and graffiti unemployable socialnwelfare addicts.

I prefer it as a cattle property.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: NitroX]
      #362666 - 24/02/22 06:37 PM

The property's name ,- Buckland Park.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: NitroX]
      #362667 - 24/02/22 07:43 PM

The only head I ever bothered to get mounted wasn't much better, I've shit a lot better but it was just such a memorable hunt with a mate that I got it done and still have it today.
My best trophies aren't the biggest heads, they were the most memorable hunts, and that's all that matters.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: 260rem]
      #362668 - 24/02/22 07:53 PM

I am sure there was a much bigger buck I saw silhouetted against the early light. They disappeared behind some bush and when this fellow walked out I shot him.

A much bigger trophy was shot a week or two later, maybe 260 Douglas Score points.

This fellow is below 200 for sure, 180 ? something?. Never measured him.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: NitroX]
      #362669 - 24/02/22 08:02 PM

I remember driving home this trip with blood leaking out of the back of my white SWB Pajero 4WD. Also bloody hand prints on it. Best of all I looked like a monster out of the elephant man ... My face all puffed up, my eyes swollen and leaking, very sore. I sometimes get nasty allergic reactions to deer and antelope. A real elephant man erect. I carry allergy pills now as soon as I feel the burn ... even a drop of blood on my hand I can feel it burning and the itch starts. Eyes are the worst.

Doesn't always happen. Maybe touching a bucks glands on its legs is one cause.

One of the worst reactions was an impala in Zimbabwe.

Allergy pills eg Zirtec, make me sleepy. Often need a snooze afterwards. Fixes the effects on the eyes too. Can clean themselves when closed.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: NitroX]
      #362679 - 25/02/22 01:39 AM

Quote:

I am sure there was a much bigger buck I saw silhouetted against the early light. They disappeared behind some bush and when this fellow walked out I shot him.

A much bigger trophy was shot a week or two later, maybe 260 Douglas Score points.

This fellow is below 200 for sure, 180 ? something?. Never measured him.




Funny how more often than not, that's how it works..

Have never shot a fallow buck.. perhaps on day.. lots of them in Texas...

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: Ripp]
      #362688 - 25/02/22 04:07 AM

I hunted fallow deer on Little St. Simons Island, GA in the late 1990s and early 2000s. I was lucky to be a friend of a member of the Little St. Simons Hunting Club. The hunts were still hunts with shots at anywhere from 5 yds to 300 yds. The island was completely undeveloped with the exception of the owner's 1920s family lodge and several newer lodges.

Fallow deer had been imported in about the 1920s by the owner (the Berolzheimer family). Fallow deer survived and multiplied. Soon there was a very sustainable fallow deer herd. The owners formed a hunting club with lodge that paid for a full time conservation team.

The hunts were great events with club members from across the SE USA.

Unfortunately, Little St. Simons was sold to a wealthy northerner. The buyer decided that neither fallow deer nor a hunting club were appropriate so both went away.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: 85lc]
      #362691 - 25/02/22 04:33 AM

Interesting "stuff" on Fallow Deer. Was a farmer here had some and some Greenpiece types broke the locks and opened up the big gate one night.
By noon the next day, they were all gone. Game branch was going to fine the owner, but he contacted the archery club and the boys shot them
all over a weekend - all except the buck, apparently. After a week or so, he wandered back to the feeding trough inside the fenced area and was
captured. The farmer shot him or one of the archery boys did it for him.
It was in a no firearms shooting area, in which archery is allowed.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: DarylS]
      #362737 - 25/02/22 10:27 PM

I had a buck from my buck's yard escape. Several days later neighbours found him in their vineyard up on the hill a km or two away. They chased him towards my direction. That evening I found him lying down back in this yard. Shut the gate.

Another time lost two-thirds of my herd when a flood undercut a fence. About half wandered back into an opened paddock. Some pushed, encouraged to entered the V shaped traps I built on the gates. Very hard to push deer. Easier to encourage them in a direction. They are not tame. Shot all the rest during day or spotlight. Butchered them and into the freezers. Last one taken a year later. I gained a buck when a wild buck jumped into the does' paddock where there was no male. I don't mind wild deer around but my vineyard neighbours might.

Funny the wild deer. NEVER have seen them nearby. This wild buck able to jump 7 foot fences. And once a red deer track in the sand at my bunny hunting block.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: NitroX]
      #362786 - 27/02/22 03:04 AM

I read that people hunt deer in vineyards somewhere in France. The deer apparently like the grapes. Of course, the story was that the venison taste great with wine from that vineyard.

I think the vineyard owner charges a fee for hunters to shoot the deer so he recovered the cost of the lost grapes and on top, sold some of his product.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: 85lc]
      #362801 - 27/02/22 10:59 AM

Proof positive that firearms and alcohol do mix!



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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: Marrakai]
      #362803 - 27/02/22 11:23 AM

Quote:

Proof positive that firearms and alcohol do mix!






HaHa. That is a good catch.

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: 85lc]
      #362812 - 27/02/22 12:55 PM

Lots of hunting of deer particularly roe deer in European vineyards.

Seen them in France, Italy, Germany, Czech. But indont remember any hochsitz in the German vineyard areas (?).

Generally deer and grapes do not mix well. The commercial value of premium grapes would mean hunting prices would have to be on the super premium price level ...

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Re: My second ever fallow buck [Re: NitroX]
      #362825 - 28/02/22 12:59 AM

Fallow deer are one of the exotic animals that have done well in Texas. I have shot them for sport, but always keep the meat. They can be found on many exotic game ranches and some are on public land.

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