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Bokmal
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Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly...
#227909 - 03/04/13 04:36 AM

Some time ago I managed to sweet talk myself into the store room of a gun shop east of Helsinki. I headed for the corner of "unsellables", "not-worth-an-ad" and generally sad old firearms looking for a possible project rifle. Among all the usual sportered Mosins, Arisakas, Swede 96s and single shot Baikals (sprinkled with the odd Neuhausen and MP38) were some 98s.

One particulary caught my eye, labeled simply "8x57 Mauser 98". It had the signs of a Sako late 1940'ies sporter, military action, typical Sako birch stock without recoil cross bolt (and badly cracked, too) and the Sako civilian front and rear sights (btw, I was actually wrong about the rear sight).

I picked it up, noticed that the stock was very slim, a leftie and that whole rifle didn't feel right, too light... Then I saw the marks on the the receiver...

I paid the barely three digit price and now it's in my home. Now I start having second toughts. What should I do with it? I know this is a luxury problem, but I don't want or need a 8x57 sporter, "restauration" to mil config would give me, at best, something closer to a repro than a collectible. On the other hand, the action, bolt, mag and rear sight all seems to be in an unaltered condition.

While I think this over, and regret my lack of impulse control, here are some pics:

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Bokmal]
#227913 - 03/04/13 05:15 AM

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I know this is a luxury problem, but I don't want or need a 8x57 sporter,

I do not NEED a 8x57mm but I surely WANT one.....:):):).....If you are burdened, I would re-imburse you the "barely three digit price"....

I like it, very cool

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Caprivi]
#227914 - 03/04/13 05:22 AM

the 33/40 is probably the slimmest mauser action ever made in masses

I believe the best you can do is to start a super slim sporter project like the Kesslerin
http://www.kesslerin.info/seiten/classic.html

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Bokmal]
#227920 - 03/04/13 06:14 AM

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Some time ago I managed to sweet talk myself into the store room of a gun shop east of Helsinki. I headed for the corner of "unsellables", "not-worth-an-ad" and generally sad old firearms looking for a possible project rifle. Among all the usual sportered Mosins, Arisakas, Swede 96s and single shot Baikals (sprinkled with the odd Neuhausen and MP38) were some 98s.

One particulary caught my eye, labeled simply "8x57 Mauser 98". It had the signs of a Sako late 1940'ies sporter, military action, typical Sako birch stock without recoil cross bolt (and badly cracked, too) and the Sako civilian front and rear sights (btw, I was actually wrong about the rear sight).

I picked it up, noticed that the stock was very slim, a leftie and that whole rifle didn't feel right, too light... Then I saw the marks on the the receiver...

I paid the barely three digit price and now it's in my home. Now I start having second toughts. What should I do with it? I know this is a luxury problem, but I don't want or need a 8x57 sporter, "restauration" to mil config would give me, at best, something closer to a repro than a collectible. On the other hand, the action, bolt, mag and rear sight all seems to be in an unaltered condition.

While I think this over, and regret my lack of impulse control, here are some pics:

I know to the purist collector this might sound crazy but I love it . What a perfect tough condition mountain and forest hunting rifle! Not only that but the little rifle is running over with character and history ! The rifle was obviously altered by someone with an eye for aesthetics and purpose . I am most happy for you my friend ! This is what makes our lives interesting!

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Caprivi]
#227945 - 03/04/13 01:00 PM

Bokmal ,This is my Sako Mauser 30-06
possibly from the 40's also ?
The scope is a German Nickel.It is somewhat heavier than your Sako G33/40 and not nearly as "user friendly" when traversing high mountains

Edited by Deutsche_Vortrekker (03/04/13 01:07 PM)

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
#227973 - 04/04/13 03:45 AM

That Kesslerin is a beauty, Lancaster! There are several ideas that could be borrowed from that one...

@Vortrekker, the Sako Mauser, i.e. the Highpower, were numbered from 100 000 upwards. Your would be from the earlier end like my 8x60 was. The stocks are also identical. Later stocks had fancier wood etc. Still regret selling it

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Bokmal]
#227977 - 04/04/13 05:06 AM

yes the kesslerin is the victory of a special idea building a mauser sporter slim and elegant as possible. iirc, core of the success is cuting the magazin down for holding only 4 or 3 cartridges. this giving the rifle an edge over other ligth weight sporter and bring it close to an old Suhler break action single shot.

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: lancaster]
#227985 - 04/04/13 07:54 AM

Bokmal : Thanks for the SN# update . I read somewhere Sako started using those Mauser actions to build their rifles in 48 or 49 but I'm not quite certain....

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Deutsche_Vortrekker]
#228059 - 05/04/13 02:22 AM

It appears that Sako milled the front end of the original G33/40 rear sight . The front sight is similar to the early Riihimaki Sako built sporters.

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Bokmal]
#228128 - 05/04/13 05:57 PM

Bokmal that looks like a good find.

Lancaster that is a great looking rifle and great timber.

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Rule303]
#264710 - 08/05/15 07:07 PM

I've started thinking about this project again. I have a nice slim small ring stock coming up from Germany, made in Hersfeld in 1966 according to the seller.

But how about scope bases? I would prefer something like S&Ks Skulptured bases but Brownells only list small rings for the M/96. Do you fellow forum members know of other suitable bases and mounts for the 33/40?

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Bokmal]
#264752 - 09/05/15 06:30 PM

sometimes somethings need some time

whats with the talley mount? http://www.talleymanufacturing.com/Produ...dard-Satin.aspx

from all modern scope mounts its ,imho ,the best looking one

dont beliefe there is a special mount make for the 33/40, the action is to rare.

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Edited by lancaster (09/05/15 06:32 PM)

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: lancaster]
#264754 - 09/05/15 07:49 PM

You're right as always, the good stuff often take time!

The Talleys do look good, I'll write them.

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Bokmal]
#264895 - 13/05/15 10:15 AM

The pictured Sako is not built on a G33/40 - it is possibly a commercial FN action. The action has no thumb slot.

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: TexasJohn]
#264907 - 13/05/15 01:17 PM

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The pictured Sako is not built on a G33/40 - it is possibly a commercial FN action. The action has no thumb slot.

Read the topic from beginning so you notice you talk about another rifle than topics opener. The rifle in latest foto has, indeed, FN commercial action because it´s formal SAKO High Power but it´s owner is Deutsche Vortrekker, not Bokmal who opens this topic for his much older SAKO -made factory custom rifle.

This is a good lesson to you, TexasJohn; read always complete topic before answering it...

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Re: Sako late 1940ies sporterized G 33/40. Possibly... [Re: Igorrock]
#264909 - 13/05/15 03:43 PM

The first 375 I ever owned was an older Sako like this one with an early post war FN commercial action. it is one rifle I wish I had kept.

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