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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202897 - 19/02/12 05:59 AM

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go to reto beuhlers site he represents jeffery in the states there are pics of some new jeffery rifles that look quite nice....paul



+1 on this...

http://www.customsportingarms.com/BuehlerRigby.html


And his pricing seems to be very reasonable.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Wes350]
      #202904 - 19/02/12 10:12 AM

He uses Granite Mountain arms actions though...investment castings...

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202907 - 19/02/12 10:59 AM

im pretty sure that 350 is owned by huvius now,,,im not gone over the GMA action the bolt handle shoulder is too close to the stock ,i like it more broader like the original oberndorf and there is way too much stuff going on with the square bridges im actually done with square bridges especially on the front ring ....paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202911 - 19/02/12 11:34 AM

Pjaln, what do you think about the dakota 76? The action seems to combine the best from the M70, pre65 and the mauser.

Also, their stocks look quite good.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202915 - 19/02/12 12:21 PM

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Pjaln, what do you think about the dakota 76? The action seems to combine the best from the M70, pre65 and the mauser.

Also, their stocks look quite good.



I had a chance to look at and handle quite a few of these lately. They are above the standard rifle Winchester is offering but far short of a London gun. I had heard a lot of praise and they photograph well. I was disappointed in what I saw but that is because I had a preconceived notion of what they would be and, it turns out, I was expecting too much. They look like well built utilitarian rifles but I think they are overpriced for what they are.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202917 - 19/02/12 12:58 PM

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He uses Granite Mountain arms actions though...investment castings...



They don't look investment cast to me.



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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Grenadier]
      #202926 - 19/02/12 02:22 PM

Seems so.
8500 dollars for a custom-made rifle is not that much more than a 5500 dollar dakota.
Certainly decent value. I was quoted 28.000 dollars for a new westley richards. while it may be better, its not 20 grand better.

How does rito buehler handle payment? 1/3rd at order, 1/3rd close to finish and 1/3rd at delivery?

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202933 - 19/02/12 04:07 PM

i would only use a new made magnum action only if it were to be a big caliber 416 and up ,if you are thinking 275 then i would start with a 1909 or vz24 whatever can be had ,naturally an oberndorf would be nice ,,again look to see what dorleac is using for most of his rifles ....you,ll see mostly military actions,,,....personally i think for 8500 a close copy of a 275 rigby can be built ,,remember now,,no forend tip,,grip cap optional(tho i,d probably put one with a trap),and its possible to just rework existing military trigger guard,floorplate,thin rubber pad ,decent but not overly fancy wood,, cheekpiece ???..and your right the semi custom off the rack guns like dakota,kimber ,cooper blaser are pushing 5k or better ,,,now as a sidebar if you are going to build a copy of a rigby then dont deviate from it at all ..my thoughts are if it looks like a clone it should keep its resale value up as long as the work is done right (fit and finish) ...who wouldnt want a copy of a 1906 rigby ....paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202962 - 19/02/12 09:03 PM

Pjaln, keep in mind I am a left-handed shooter. There is simply no way around a new action.
Do you have a mail adress I can reach you at. Would love some help with speccing up the rifle in terms of look and accessories with you, if you have the time or/and can be bothered

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202965 - 20/02/12 12:25 AM

i guess you are looking to make a left handed rigby ,,did you go to todd ramirez site and see the lefty he made for craig boddington ,,not a bad copy of a rigby style ,you wouldnt be far from what you see there ,,things i would change are ,,barrel contour ,barrel band for sling ,and front site ,these 3 items look americanized on this gun ,but i do like the stock,, and the pistol grip area looks good,as well as the forend thats important ,,the rigy style on the bolt handle side of the gun is important not many prewar makers paid the attention to the sculpting as rigby did ....paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #202995 - 20/02/12 08:30 AM

I did, it looks nice. I also recieved a mail from Dorleac&Dorleac as I requested an offer from them.

Dear Axel,

We have studied the price for building you a “Rigby style working rifle” on a left hand FZH action with standard commercial Mauser C type magazine box.
We can nearly duplicate a pre-WWI rifle and make it as per you needs and specifications with classic express sight and a Rigby peep fitted to the bolt.
For the butt plate we think that a thin soft one would be the best choice for such a rifle intended to be used under all conditions.
For the same reasons, for a bead bead we will prefer to use a more sturdy “caterpillar” gold beaded one.
French walnut will be used for stocking the rifle and we need to know your choice about the grip form (rounded or steel caped) and your preferred LOP.
Based on the above specifications, our best offer is a 9.800 US dollars net end price with a 18 months delivery time.
Our conditions are as follow: 30% with your order, 20% at the proofing in the white, balance at delivery.

Best regards.

Joel Dorleac

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #202996 - 20/02/12 08:32 AM

I am not sure how Dorleac&Dorleac measures up to a Todd Ramirez or Reto beuhler though.
But they sure look nice.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #203002 - 20/02/12 11:42 AM

for 9800 i would let them get going on it,,i think they make the best rifles out there look at the bottom metal that they made for one of there guns on there site under pre owned i think it was a 9.3x62 it has drop box style like the westley 425 and it was built on a 1908 dwm,,they wont need to be hand held thru the process,,that guns looks prewar british like no other look at the scope mounts ,,it would be hard pressed to get them built anywhere they are a holland style ...paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: pjaln]
      #203041 - 20/02/12 10:06 PM

Well best out there, thats supposed to be H&H isnt it. At least according to the majority of the gunmakers at the SC, they all held H&H up as the "standard" basically...

I am not sure if a Dorleac&Dorleac would hold its value as well as say a... Gibbs or a WJ/Jeffery, but then again I am gonna hunt the crap out of it, so I guess it will be well-used by the time im 30 anyway..

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #203078 - 21/02/12 06:11 AM

Hi Fontainebleau, (..a very nice French castle and hunting place!)

Please, have a look at: http://www.finegunmaking.com/page48/page53/page53.html
That will give you an idea of what we mean when we speak about Rigby type light stalking rifle.

DORLEAC

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: DORLEAC]
      #203082 - 21/02/12 06:22 AM

Looks fantastic.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Fontainebleu]
      #203088 - 21/02/12 08:21 AM

On Steve Dodd Hughes page !! guess they are friends

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203092 - 21/02/12 09:25 AM

You can learn more about the building of that rifle on our web site at: http://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/pgs_fr/etapes.php?codec=C001
If nothing goes wrong, I hope to get the rifle completed before mid 2012.
Don't forget that we are a very small team of three gunsmiths only and that we are never satisfied with our work, always thinking that we could have been done it better !
Sorry for my bad English, gentlemen.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: DORLEAC]
      #203118 - 21/02/12 02:11 PM

I don't need much more convincing!
BTW a couple things. That actually isn't my 350. Mine was owned by Sterling Davenport for 20yrs or so prior to my buying it from him.
And, if a decent Oberndorf action is needed by anybody, take a look at the couple Oberndorfs that Ralf Martini has. Now, I am no fan of breaking up an original Oberndorf sporter but the prices on these are very tempting and if it is to be reincarnated, I am sure it wouldn't complain about becoming a beauty such as the Dorleac rifles!

Scroll way down the page. Three for +/- $1K a piece.
http://www.martiniandhagngunmakers.com/forsale_rifles.htm

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Huvius]
      #203135 - 21/02/12 06:07 PM

Notice that the action we have used here is an Intermediate one, as on the pre WW1 Rigby.
They are much harder to come than standard length actions.
Here you can see some of the Mauser systems we use after blue printing and preparation: http://www.dorleac-dorleac.com/pgs_fr/etapes.php?codec=A001
Thanks for your support.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: DORLEAC]
      #203141 - 21/02/12 07:22 PM

Huvius, when you look at that site you do start to wonder if it is worth buying a new rifle, some value there indeed ! best

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203180 - 22/02/12 01:17 AM

i doubt if they will depriciate at all....paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Mike_Bailey]
      #203187 - 22/02/12 02:25 AM

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Huvius, when you look at that site you do start to wonder if it is worth buying a new rifle, some value there indeed ! best



Personally, I never thought there was any need to have a new rifle, especially at the cost, although the quote above from Dorleac looks to be quite reasonable as far as new custom builds go.

True too, Martini tends to price his stock more or less right where it should be. Good to deal with too.

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: Huvius]
      #203194 - 22/02/12 03:58 AM

the 9.3x 62 for sale on his site thats pre -owned looks as good or better than anything that ever came out of holland n holland ...paul

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Re: Where would your money go? New Rigby sporter [Re: DORLEAC]
      #203265 - 22/02/12 04:50 PM

Joel,

My apologies - I have not been able to convert the pictures that you sent me and post them here. I shall consult with a friend and find a way to post them very shortly.

My apologies again.

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