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edmhunter
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Best action for a 404 Jeffery build?
      #155445 - 04/03/10 09:08 AM

What would be the best action to have a custom DGR built on? Where is the best place to look for the action?

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: edmhunter]
      #155446 - 04/03/10 09:27 AM



Mauser 98 ?

Brno 602 or 550 ? (If you want to use a big action).

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #155448 - 04/03/10 09:40 AM

I am building a .404 at the moment, I would have used a Mauser 98 for traditional purposes but a Brno 602 action turned up first so I bought that instead. I don't go much on the look of the 550 action, but it will no doubt do the job just fine.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: 010166]
      #155450 - 04/03/10 09:52 AM


I agree, the 602 is a far better action, both in terms of build quality and looks.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #155454 - 04/03/10 10:53 AM

I used a 602 action and you have all the room in the world to seat bullets out if you so desire.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: FATBOY404]
      #155485 - 04/03/10 06:03 PM

I have Brno VZ24 screwed onto a Walther 404 barrel ready when I am.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: ozhunter]
      #155487 - 04/03/10 06:37 PM


Yes, well, a VZ24 is in a league of it's own
and as rare as rocking horse shit so I didn't
even mention that.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: 500Nitro]
      #155491 - 04/03/10 07:02 PM

Yesterday I tried to convince a friend that I needed his Brno ZG47 more than he did...
No such luck...

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: ozhunter]
      #155493 - 04/03/10 07:54 PM


This is a 550 action - I can't see anything wrong with it compared to a 602 action!



Cheers.

GG

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155495 - 04/03/10 07:59 PM


But GG, you have the capability of turning most things
into works of working art, regardless of what they start out like.

Alot of 550 weren't anywhere near the build quality and smoothness of some of the 602's.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155497 - 04/03/10 08:34 PM

GG, that is one sweet looking rifle!

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: 4seventy]
      #155531 - 05/03/10 09:45 AM

What about th the Granite Mountain Arms action?

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155532 - 05/03/10 09:54 AM

Quote:


This is a 550 action - I can't see anything wrong with it compared to a 602 action!





I couldn't agree more, now that the bolt handle and safety issues have been taken care of.
Actually, the factory 550 doesn't look too bad, except for the stock. The pistol grip was fine on the BRNO 21's and 22's. I wonder why they cant get them right now.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: xausa]
      #155536 - 05/03/10 10:24 AM

Thanks for the compliments.

Admittedly my action was probably one from the first year of production as it came my way in 2000. I haven't had the chance to look at any later produced examples - perhaps the quality has slipped a bit as per the ZKK line?. This rifle is very smooth.

My 602 .375 was made in 1967 or '68 and it is also very smooth - but what do you do about the sand blasted, parkerised finish on the action to pretty it up?

Cheers.

GG

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155537 - 05/03/10 10:47 AM


Here's another shot for you Al.



And a couple of the old war horse.





Cheers.

GG

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155538 - 05/03/10 10:58 AM

There a smart looking one thats just been added on UG`s exy though

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155540 - 05/03/10 11:04 AM

GG,
Very nice, both of them!
And like all your rifles these two are obviously being put to good use as well.
That 602 looks great. Is that a Slee stock?

I had a .375 peep sight 602 many years ago.
Should not have sold it!

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: 4seventy]
      #155553 - 05/03/10 02:25 PM

GG375,

I hope I haven't missed it in this thread, but, who made/supplied the safety? Ed LaPour maybe?

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: mauserand9mm]
      #155560 - 05/03/10 03:31 PM

mauserand9mm

I think it was a Precise Metalsmithing (Jim Wisner) from memory. I would have imported it myself.

Cheers.

GG

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155568 - 05/03/10 06:12 PM


Al

No mate not a Slee stock. It was made for me by an old mate of mine.

Cheers.

GG

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155571 - 05/03/10 06:18 PM

Graeme,
Your mate knows his stuff! He did a beautiful job.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155573 - 05/03/10 06:43 PM

G'Day Fella's,

GG 375, the first thing you need to do is have the action Bead Blasted to remove all the old Blued Finish. Then, in my experience if you want to have a highly polished Brno ZKK series action, the best bet is to use progressively finer grades of Emery Paper and then Wet and Dry, stapled to a piece of MDF/Custom Wood and "Draw File" the action with this.
Start with say 320grade and go to finer grades from there.

If you have NO "Hand Eye Co-ordination", pay a Gunsmith to do it!!!

The primary intention here is to remove only the top or outer crust of the Matte, Factory Sand Blasted metal finish that will be visible above the stock line, until new shinny metal comes through!
Your objective is not to remove lots of metal!!!
You should stop and retain the lettering and serial number on the receiver ring, which will still be Sand Blasted and the contrast between it and the high polished finish should look good.

I assume the reason that Brno sand blast their actions was to obtain a better Blued Finish on these Investment Cast, steel actions?
Look at a Blued Ruger action in natural day light and you will see what I mean!

Hope this helps!

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: Homer]
      #155619 - 06/03/10 10:04 AM


Thanks Hommer - that all makes sense. Have you had this done before? Any photos?

I have never seriously contemplated doing that to my old .375 but for a full on custom job I would.

I actually quite like the look of the original finish - especially with the rest of the metal rust blued.

Cheers mate.

GG

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: GG375]
      #155647 - 06/03/10 04:35 PM

I also have a VZ 24 for my build.

Duane Wiebe, at http://www.soundmetalproducts.com/About_Us.html

Produces a high quality set of bottom metal for the 404J that plugs onto the 1898 action.

I have also considered using one of my 1909 Argies, but I would have to first anneal, and then re-carburize/heat treat. That gets to be a spot of bother.

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Re: Best action for a 404 Jeffery build? [Re: lawndart]
      #155675 - 07/03/10 09:44 AM

GG375,

I have done what Hommer has talked about to my 602, and it is still in the white at the moment. I am in QLD at the moment, so when I get back to WA at the end of the week I will take a photo for you and put it up.

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