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It seems that rifles of this caliber were also produced locally by Peterlongo. I am just wondering for whom and for what. Neither Germany nor Austria had any colonies at that time, Austria never anyway, and as far as exports are concerned, the cartridge 11,2x72 was not very competitive with cartridges such as the 404 Jeffery or 425 Westley Richards from the same period. Some rifles caliber 11,2x72 were certainly intended for export, mine is also marked for Lyon & Lyon in Calcutta, but it seems that many of them were no exported and that a lot of rifles caliber 11,2x72 must not have been in service, either in Africa or in India.

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Some German hunter definitely hunted in the British colonies.

I remember one hunter used a .500 Jeffery or Schuler (?) and a 7mm SEvH. I think it was between the two world wars.

It's correct to say the competition from other cartridges would have been great.

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Contacts from Woodleigh have told me that they will NOT be making bullets in 11.2 caliber in the future because there is too little demand for .440 caliber to justify the expense of re-tooling when the Factory gets back into production.

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That's sad! One can expect a rationalisation of the Woodleigh line seeing they are going from not restarting at all to re-opening. The extensive line will no doubt miss more than a few of the lesser demanded bullets. One can hope ones own needs and some of the rarer ones still get made. Not just the most obvious cartridges as sold by Norma, Federal etc.

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That's sad! One can expect a rationalisation of the Woodleigh line seeing they are going from not restarting at all to re-opening. The extensive line will no doubt miss more than a few of the lesser demanded bullets. One can hope ones own needs and some of the rarer ones still get made. Not just the most obvious cartridges as sold by Norma, Federal etc.

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Hello NitroX,
Thanks for the reply,

Cutting Edge did make bullets for 11.2 caliber, but their bullets are lathe turned. They made "450g Safari solids" and 400g Hollow Point "Safari Raptors". (I'm not sure if they are still making bullets in 11.2 caliber.) Hawk also makes 11.2 caliber bullets, but they are copper tubing with lead cores and not "Weld Core" like the Woodleigh bullets. Fortunately I have a bunch of the Cutting Edge bullets, and plenty of the Woodleigh bullets because I was very fortunate to get 650 bullets with the Schuler rifle that was posted about earlier. Now I only have 550 bullets left, because I helped a fellow forum member in need that was going to African later this year and wanted to use his 11.2x72 Schuler rifle for Cape Buffalo and other game.



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Nice buy Buckstix.

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Cutting Edge still makes bullets for 11.2 caliber, but their bullets are lathe turned. They have "450g Safari solids" and 400g Hollow Point "Safari Raptors". Hawk also makes bullets, but they are not "Weld Core" like the Woodleigh bullets. Fortunately I have a bunch of the Cutting Edge bullets, and plenty of the Woodleighs because I was very fortunate to get 650 bullets with the Schuler rifle that was posted about earlier.

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I know the bullets from Cutting Edge, but they are too long for the magazine of my rifle and the flat nose of the bullet tip does not allow a perfect and quick reloading.

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Congratulations, Buckstix! You found a very rare, pre-WW1, rifle for the 11.2x72 Schüler cartridge still in original, unaltered shape ...... I don’t know what the “C322” on the bolt handle and “A.R.” under the barrel stand for.
Imho this rifle was built entirely in Austria, Innsbruck or Ferlach. As the Mauser patents were still valid pre-WW1, any gunmaker had to buy an action from Oberndorf first to build a 98 action rifle.

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Its hard to see in the picture .. the bolt handle number is numbered "6328" which does not match the rifle action number of "26311". However, there is a small number "10" on the other side of the bolt handle. You can see in the pictures the same number "10" on the bottom of the action and on the bottom of the barrel. There is also a number "10" on the wedge. The trigger-guard assembly is numbered "311" which matches the last 3 numbers of the action number. I added a picture of the magazine spacer which is made of steel, not brass like those on the Schuler made rifles.

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Nice rifle, what does the bottom of the bolt root look like?

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