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casper50
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Photos of a very well used Rigby
#190190 - 19/09/11 04:48 AM

Here's some photos of the Rigby .275 that arrived yesterday. The bore shows strong rifling and no sign of pitting on the outside. The stock shows lots of knocks and the finish on the metal is completely gone. It's been used hard but I think that it's had some care given to it.

Edited by CptCurl (28/11/11 12:04 AM)

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#190191 - 19/09/11 04:58 AM

classic rifle,
do you plan to refinish this?

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: lancaster]
#190193 - 19/09/11 05:12 AM

Shame that stock is broken. Othervise it is ready to use.
Knocks on the stock and "some" missing blueing means nothing.
Treat it with care and give her a nice new stock and proper metal finishing. We will wait a pictures of "new" her.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: Paatti]
#190196 - 19/09/11 05:25 AM

Rough as a cob, but a nice find indeed.

Very badly covered with rust at one time, but brushed off with steel wool nicely, leaving only blemishes, for the most part. Totally recoverable.

The stock can be repaired quite easily, and re-finished with it's well earned wear and tear. I'd not replace it at all and would surely entertain the idea of a rust-blue over it's entire outside surface.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: DarylS]
#190198 - 19/09/11 06:07 AM

Congratulation!.

Nice ol`rifle indeed.

It would harm anything to restore the rifle. Its not a collectable, and to restore this gun would only add value imho, if done proffesional.

There is nothing like an old Rigbymauser.

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casper50
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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: rigbymauser]
#190199 - 19/09/11 06:24 AM

I do plan to have it redone but it will have to be down the road awhile. I am redoing a .318 Westley takedown Mauser at the moment.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#190217 - 19/09/11 11:05 AM

Hello - Is this rifle built on a Oberndorf "intermediate action" ??

I'd love to see a picture of the whole stock, the Rigby pattern is hard to beat for open sight use . . .

Thanks - Foster

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casper50
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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: Tentman]
#190224 - 19/09/11 04:18 PM

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#190236 - 19/09/11 06:59 PM

I wouldn't even think of restocking it. This stock can be refinished and the checkering recut for 1/5th the price of a proper restock, and a new stock will never look as good as the original. It's not bad looking like it is.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: mckinney]
#190430 - 22/09/11 06:16 AM

Casper, Will the rifle be well enough to accept visitors this fall after bear season is over?
Nice find.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: 458Win]
#190444 - 22/09/11 07:35 AM

458Win If I can get it up and running by the 4th of Oct, I'm thinking about taking it blacktail hunting on Kodiak. I'll have a buddy with a .375 for back up. Mike

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#190460 - 22/09/11 12:52 PM

Mike, that will make a classy rifle for blacktails. If I get back over there this fall I plan on taking my Lee Speed.

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casper50
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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: 458Win]
#190707 - 25/09/11 11:55 PM

I took it to the range yesterday. 100yd using 175 grain Remingtons it shot 18" high. Have to pursue this some more.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#190718 - 26/09/11 05:22 AM

Sounds like a piece of junk?

- want to trade

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: 458Win]
#190720 - 26/09/11 05:33 AM

Hello

Maybe it was regulated for the "high velocity" load, which I believe was a 140gr projectile.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: 458Win]
#190721 - 26/09/11 05:34 AM

Probably not, but I have to ask what's on the table? By the way it came with a full length English leather hard case with "Earl of Suffolk" stamped on the top.

I would think that the 140 grain load would shoot higher still. But, the 175 was all that I had on hand. I'll see if I can find some 140's out here in the boonies.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#190775 - 26/09/11 06:20 PM

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I took it to the range yesterday. 100yd using 175 grain Remingtons it shot 18" high. Have to pursue this some more.

Velocity might be the answer? What was the 175 gr factory load velocity at the time the rifle was made?

Just a thought. Still 18 inches is very high irrespective of the velocity.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: NitroX]
#191148 - 02/10/11 07:05 AM

nice original gun,, it is definitely regulated for the 140 grain high velocity bullet ,and that may be the reason why it is way off look up my posting of the original rigby catalog then look up the sight regulations,...paul

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#191163 - 02/10/11 06:40 PM

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I took it to the range yesterday. 100yd using 175 grain Remingtons it shot 18" high. Have to pursue this some more.

My old .303 Rigby shoots also too high regardless of what bulletweight I use from 174grain military spitzerpoints to 215grain roundnosed. My fixed 50yard leaf shoots is almost perfect for 220yards(200meters) with all bulletweights(Nice!..as Borat would say:LOL.) Sometimes these old guns does not make sence, but yet still very enjoyable to shoot.
Next time going to Africa ILL take the .303Rigby along for some M`pala,Steenbok and Dassie shoot.

Edited by rigbymauser (02/10/11 06:43 PM)

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: rigbymauser]
#191167 - 02/10/11 10:06 PM

casper,,, go to MAUSER FORUM AND PHOTOS,,then to "some 275 riby info" and you will see the 3 different models of the 275. yours being model number 2 ,,because your sighting is 100,300,400 for 140 grain
model number 1 is 100,200,300.for 175 grain ......paul

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: pjaln]
#191183 - 03/10/11 02:28 AM

It says 140 grains right on the barrel but I only had some 175s on hand. I'll try and source some 140s. 3000 fpm seems pretty fast. What's the standard US factory ammo 140 grain going to be speed wise? To get it that fast am I going to have to reload it? No problem but if I have to reload to get it that fast I won't buy any factory ammo.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: casper50]
#191184 - 03/10/11 02:56 AM

oh casper ,,fwiw,,if you refinish that gun it will stop talking to you and the rest of us ,,, if you need a clean looking rigby there out there ,,i wouldnt refinish my 400/350 and its in the same shape as yours in fact its harder to find them in this condition than any other ....paul

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: pjaln]
#191186 - 03/10/11 04:15 AM

The reason for such old rifles shooting high may be other than a different load. I have myself observed it also on several commercial Mauser A type rifles. Alas, the Rigbys were almost completely made by Mauser to Rigby's design, see Jon Speed: Mauser Archive, page 31-42.
Today we are accustomed to take aim with the top of the front-sight bead seen at the same level as the top flats of the rear-sight. This wasn't so during the early 1900s: Many shooters then sighted with a "fine bead". They aimed with the tiny bead nestled into the very bottom of the V-notch, hardly visible. Many old rifles were sighted to use such an outmoded sight picture that would cause a modern rifle to shoot very low.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: kuduae]
#191475 - 08/10/11 08:11 AM

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The reason for such old rifles shooting high may be other than a different load. I have myself observed it also on several commercial Mauser A type rifles. Alas, the Rigbys were almost completely made by Mauser to Rigby's design, see Jon Speed: Mauser Archive, page 31-42.
Today we are accustomed to take aim with the top of the front-sight bead seen at the same level as the top flats of the rear-sight. This wasn't so during the early 1900s: Many shooters then sighted with a "fine bead". They aimed with the tiny bead nestled into the very bottom of the V-notch, hardly visible. Many old rifles were sighted to use such an outmoded sight picture that would cause a modern rifle to shoot very low.

That was the exact way my Dad taught me as a boy to sight the .22RF. My old eyes would never be able to use that sight picture now as I barely can see irons.

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Re: Photos of a very well used Rigby [Re: kuduae]
#191482 - 08/10/11 11:50 AM

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The reason for such old rifles shooting high may be other than a different load. I have myself observed it also on several commercial Mauser A type rifles. Alas, the Rigbys were almost completely made by Mauser to Rigby's design, see Jon Speed: Mauser Archive, page 31-42.
Today we are accustomed to take aim with the top of the front-sight bead seen at the same level as the top flats of the rear-sight. This wasn't so during the early 1900s: Many shooters then sighted with a "fine bead". They aimed with the tiny bead nestled into the very bottom of the V-notch, hardly visible. Many old rifles were sighted to use such an outmoded sight picture that would cause a modern rifle to shoot very low.

From what I have read I would say this is the case. Old timers, esp those of european extraction that I have met talked of using a "Fine Bead' or "Coarse/Full Bead".

The rifle to me is a gem. It speaks of hard use and many hunts. I would be happy to use it as it is.

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