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GarBy
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425 WR rifle on their site
#88986 - 15/11/07 02:14 AM

Gentlemen:

I posted this on the AR forum and would like some feedback from you gents as well. I am looking at the 425 WR rifle they have on their site (www.westleyrichards.com)under English bolt rifles. I spoke with the folks at WR and can inspect the rifle, but before I go to all that trouble, I'd like to have those interested look at the photos and opine as they feel. I've always thought I'd want a 425 and this SEEMS to be a reasonable deal. I've read posts that if it is indeed the "White Hunter" model to steer clear.

Please advise!

Thanks.

Gary

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500Nitro
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#88995 - 15/11/07 05:49 AM

Re the 425, looks OK in the photos - it is one of the plainer models from what I can see.

I thought the White Hunter model referred to Double Rifles ?
and they are not that bad -people seems to have differing views on them, thosewho have them, love them, those who don't know sprout the above about them. They are not a Holland Royal but they aren't rubbish either.

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: 500Nitro]
#88999 - 15/11/07 06:26 AM

500:

Yes, there are no shortage of opinions....some informed, some not. I did a search and noticed that another gentleman posted about a VERY similar gun from earlier this year. Iwannadouble, I believe was his screen name. The rifle he was looking at....and maybe purchased, was the same type, but not the same gun...his had lighter wood.
I have had a real interest in the caliber for some time as I already own a 404 Jeff, 450 NE, 470 NE and a 375 H&H.
But hey, I get an inspection period, and if it's not what I want, I'll simply return it. But it does look like a nice "working" type of piece.
Thanks for the post.

Gary

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500Nitro
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#89004 - 15/11/07 07:55 AM

Can I just clarify that there are 2 Separate topics in this thread.

1. In relation to "White Hunter" Westley Richards guns
- which I know as DR's.

2. The Bolt Action 425 WR as listed on the WR Web site ?

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: 500Nitro]
#89005 - 15/11/07 07:57 AM

Garby

I agree - but the WR White Hunter gets a fair bit of bad press
which I think - and others also do - is unwarranted when looked at in the context of the Era they were built.

Those who have them seem to really like them and I certainly do.

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: 500Nitro]
#89006 - 15/11/07 08:28 AM

I will post my view(s) once I have a chance to look her over and fire her with WR factory ammo that they are sending with the gun. She'll be on her way tomorrow, but should take about 5-6 days to get here. Just because a gun isn't embelished with fancy wood and other goodies doen't bother me...it all depends how she shoots.
Thanks.

Gary

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#89007 - 15/11/07 08:36 AM

"Just because a gun isn't embelished with fancy wood and other goodies doen't bother me...it all depends how she shoots.
Thanks."

Agreed.

I have seen a couple of 425's, that's the ony reason I made the comment.

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: 500Nitro]
#89025 - 15/11/07 01:02 PM

500:

The WR boys in Bozeman told me that indeed the White Hunter did include some 425 bolt models as well as DRs. He said they are plainer, but function very well....at least the ones they have had and presently have. As I posted, I'll take some photos and give a range report once she arrives.

Take care.

Gary

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#89035 - 15/11/07 01:57 PM

the name of this model is the GAME RANGER made on fn actions ,read jacques lott 1974 or 84 gun digest he does a 4 page spread on the 425. made for game control not a best quality a working gun if it works !!....paul

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#89043 - 15/11/07 04:09 PM

There should be a law that when posting a British rifle on the internet for sale that if you don't include a photo of the proof marks, the gun is free to the first caller. No 43049 should be 1955-57 or so, so yeah, it's from that early post-war period that the controversial guns came from. If the gun was proved in Brum (should have been), there will be a date code mark among the proof marks that will tell you the year that it was proved. London didn't start their date code until 1972. Let me know what the code is when you get it, and I'll give you the year.

Awfully plain gun for the price. Pay particularly close attention to how it functions when operated rapidly. The problem with the rebated rim of the .425 was poor quality guns, not the cartridge design.

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: 400NitroExpress]
#89064 - 16/11/07 02:34 AM

Thank you, gentlemen! I'll look closely at the markings and post when she gets here. I really appreciate the info.

Gary

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#90254 - 01/12/07 10:12 AM

Well, I received the gun this past Tuesday and took her out Wednesday for a test drive. Put 20 rounds thru her....not a hitch of any sort in the functioning. This gun is very accurate, but is shooting low. I'm going to have a higher rear sight installed. This rifle doesn't have the "clips" in the magazine, but it feed perfectly....and I put her thru the paces before I fired the first round. It is a 3 round mag with the 4th being able to be fed with the 3 down. At just a touch over 9#, she will get your attention with 410 gr at 2275 fps....my first pass with loads.

All in all, I'm happy with her.

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Ripp
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#90265 - 01/12/07 11:29 AM

Just an FYI--but if you ever want somone to check out some guys at the Westley Richards office in Bozeman--I live here and would be happy to do so..

Good luck with the rifle..

Ripp

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: Ripp]
#90269 - 01/12/07 12:53 PM

Thanks, Ripp....I appreciate the offer. Who knows when they may have something else that peaks my interest.

Take care.

Gary

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#90273 - 01/12/07 01:49 PM

have you checked out the article in gun digest circa 1984 its a must read now that you own one,also kevin kilday from westleys is a good guy, good luck with it ...paul

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: pjaln]
#90312 - 02/12/07 12:25 AM

Paul....I have looked extensively for that article and cannot find it. Do you happen to know where I can get my hands on a reprint? I would appreciate it. As soon as I received this rifle, I put 3 rounds in the magazine with a 4th on top and cycled it RAPIDLY. I did this 12-15 times before I even left the house to go to the range. I remember your earlier posts while I was searching for 425 info. The rifle functioned PERFECTLY. It shoots very nice, but about 8" low at 60 yds. I put 6 shots into 3.5" at 60 yds with all of the holes nearly touching.....but 8" low.
It IS a plain rifle but has all of the WR markings and is in very nice shape....I'm happy with her.

Thanks.

Gary

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#90367 - 03/12/07 12:29 AM

Gary,

Congratulations on your .425WR! It should serve you well.

Curl

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Ripp
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: pjaln]
#90377 - 03/12/07 02:45 AM

Quote:

have you checked out the article in gun digest circa 1984 its a must read now that you own one,also kevin kilday from westleys is a good guy, good luck with it ...paul

Agree Kevin is a good guy... I have the privelage of test firing some of their cosignment guns.. which is a great opportunity for myself to acquire experience shooting different types of doubles..

They typically have a pretty good selection available

Ripp

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: Ripp]
#90506 - 04/12/07 01:42 PM

sorry about the late response i took a look i have gun books all over my house i had about 20 gun digest together that i looked thru 74 and 84 were there but no article, it could be the 82 it was the only one missing from that timeframe i havent read it in maybe 12 years i,ll keep looking the exact photo of your gun was in it the (GAME RANGER)...paul

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: pjaln]
#90507 - 04/12/07 01:48 PM

Paul....it's the 1981 Gun Digest....finally found a copy today on line. Hopefully the gentleman will send me the book. If you do find it, let me know...I'm not sure I'll get my copy.

Thanks so much for your interest.

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#90844 - 07/12/07 03:00 PM

Nice rifle! Can you post some pictures so the rest of us can drool?
Bill

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#90845 - 07/12/07 03:03 PM

I was in WR yesterday--mentioned your gun--Kevin stated he had some nice extras from teh previous owner --sounds like you made a pretty good score...

Ripp

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: Ripp]
#91037 - 09/12/07 12:21 PM

Bill: Yes I'll post some pics I took before I sent her to JJ for a new rear sight a longer spacer/pad combo...she was a little short for my liking.

Ripp: Yes...Kevin is sending some scope mounts, brass, bullets, dies and a couple of other goodies. All in all, I'm very happy with the rifle. She shoots sweet and handles nice...albeit just about 3/4" short. She'll be headed to Zambia next year for my buff/leopard hunt.
I looked for quite a while before I found the 425 I wanted...I found her.
Thanks.

Gary

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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: GarBy]
#91128 - 10/12/07 12:40 PM

garby ,you found the article by jack lott,was i right about the gun being a (game ranger)?just curious i havent been able to find my gun digest....paul

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GarBy
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Re: 425 WR rifle on their site [Re: pjaln]
#91227 - 11/12/07 10:10 AM

Paul....haven't got the book yet from the gentleman I bought it from, but from all indications, I believe you are correct. The boys from WR DID tell me, however, that they did make some bolts under the White Hunter label...like they did doubles. I haven't SEEN or heard anybody else say that, but I'm not in a position to argue with them. The gun does function perfectly though and does not have the clips spoken about often on the forums.
I should have the book in the next few days...he mailed it today from New York...and I will read it and advise you.
I will be posting some pics I took so you can have a look....of course they are on the WR site also...or they were earlier.

Thanks.

Gary

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