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littlbigd
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Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey?
      #79786 - 02/06/07 06:15 PM

I just put in my order for .500 Jeffrey! It is going to be built on a Mauser 98k action, have tritium ghost ring sights and topped off with a Schmidt and Bender 1.1-4x Flash Dot/CQB scope. Not too shabby for my first big bore.

So while I now have to sit back and wait for my rifle to be built I would love to hear your stories of praise for the 500 Jeffrey cartridge. Everyone I have every talked to that has fired a Jeffrey just loves them. Hopefully in a few months I can add my posts of praise to the list.

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NE450No2
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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: littlbigd]
      #79798 - 03/06/07 12:07 AM

I have fired a 500 Jeffery and a 505 Gibbs.

Both were custom bolt rifles and were very nice.

The Jeffery was fairly light for calibre. Neither had painful recoil, but recovery time was a little long.

How much will your rifle weigh?

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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: NE450No2]
      #79842 - 03/06/07 03:12 PM

I also have fired a .500 Jeff from a custom CZ 602 action, with the old peep sight.

Fantastic experience, you really can feel what power is all about

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littlbigd
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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: Gustavo]
      #79851 - 03/06/07 06:20 PM

The target weight is > 10.5 lbs. Hopefully not too heavy and not too light.

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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: littlbigd]
      #79999 - 06/06/07 03:14 AM

While a .460 WTBY case necked up for .510" 600gr. bullets isn't the same as a .500 Jeffery, the recoil and performance is in the same general ball-park. With 125gr. 3031 (NOT LOADING DATA TO USE) with a 600 gr. Barnes, the velocity was supposed to be 2,700fps. From the 8 1/2 pound rifle, recoil was excessive & one shot was to much. 10.5 pounds would certainly not be excessive for your Jeffery and 11 pounds might be better.
: In those days, I had a reputation for liking recoil, but that one was too much.

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NE450No2
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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: DarylS]
      #80028 - 06/06/07 03:23 PM

I think 10.5 lbs it WAY too light.

I would think about 12 to 12.5 lbs about right.

500 Grains, how heavy was that 505 Breading bolt?

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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: NE450No2]
      #80036 - 06/06/07 06:16 PM

My 505 Gibbs weighs around 9 1/2 and recoil with 525 and 535 gr bullets @ 2150 is less than the 458 Lott and not much worse than a 458 Win. I also carried a 9 1/2 pound 500 Jeffery with 535gr bullets @ 2300 fps and would classify it in the same league as the Lott. Neither poses a problem but, as 450 No2 says, recovery time is noticable. so is their effectiveness.

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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: 458Win]
      #80041 - 06/06/07 10:14 PM

I generally agree with 458 on his observations of the 505. I have a CZ Safari Classic w/ muzzle break and recoil reducer and have no issues with the recoil. I have fired the same rifle sans muzzle brake and prefer it on to off, as the difference is quite apparent. Dave

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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: NE450No2]
      #80052 - 07/06/07 01:28 AM

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500 Grains, how heavy was that 505 Breading bolt?



Just under 12 pounds.

Recoil was a large push, not sharp. I shot a cow ele in the head with it and got a delayed fall-down response that you hear about once in a while. It was as if the ele momentarily froze in place, then fell. By the time the ele hit the ground, I had a new round chambered and had the sights on her again. So I considered follow up shot response time reasonable, but of course not as fast as a double.

However, in .505 Gibbs I would definitely not want a scope because the rifle moves a lot during recoil.

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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: 500grains]
      #80126 - 08/06/07 04:26 AM

I am looking forward to getting my ZKK 602 back from getting converted to .500 Jeffery from .375 H&H. Don't know what it will weigh, but it should be heavier than my wildcat .505, which duplicates .500 NE performance with a 570 grain bullet at 2150 fps. It weighs in at 8 3/4 pounds, but I have never noticed the recoil shooting at game and the recovery time did not prevent me from putting four shots into a running Cape Buffalo once upon a time.

I subscribe to the theory that carrying a relatively light stopper is a big advantage where a lot of walking is involved, and I certainly have experienced the truth in the adage that you walk a mile for every pound of ivory. If you don't carry that heavy rifle yourself, it might not be there when you need it and then the recoil is totally immaterial.

My advice would be to start getting used to the rifle with progressively heavier lead bullet loads and not to go straight to full powered cartridges. That's a good way to develop a flinch you might have a hard time losing.

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Re: Who has fired a 500 Jeffrey? [Re: xausa]
      #80128 - 08/06/07 04:57 AM


"That's a good way to develop a flinch you might have a hard time losing."

After shooting big bores, get out a .22 and shoot a packet of ammo off at a target.

Apart from being good practice, including off hand,
the brain remebers the last thing, ie light recoil,
not the heavy hitters.

Helps stop you getting a flinch.

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